The initial point was fairly obvious I thought - charitable work does not exonerate criminality.
CF has been a force for good in some areas but it's basically a massive slush fund that has been used and abused by Bill, Hillary and Chelsea.
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The initial point was fairly obvious I thought - charitable work does not exonerate criminality.
CF has been a force for good in some areas but it's basically a massive slush fund that has been used and abused by Bill, Hillary and Chelsea.
Should have gone with Joe Biden. He would have reached out to those blue collar workers.
You noticed that it was a question.
The message to women and migrants is 'shut up and take it'.
Indeed. A large part of the blame is that Obama liked Hillarly more.
While I don't think that Biden would have energized the electoral base as much as say Bernie, people didn't dislike him like they did with Hillary, and he is very good at debates (although it seems that matters feck all when you go against Trump).
Quite a lot of them voted for him...
White feminism is often very conservative & prejudice.
So choice of one, despite all the things that make Hillary an unlegitimate candidate? Personally, I'd vote Hillary or Libertarian party, but I will support those who voted for Trump because there are reasons.
I assume you are referring to white women?
No, Bernie was. The polls told them he would crush both Trump & Clinton but the democrats declared him unelectable... arrogant idiots out of touch with reality.
I heard Harambe (the dead gorilla) got 14k votes...
Yes white women mainly, but he also got 37% of the latino vote in Florida didn't he?
I think they wanted to play the 'first female president' card. Didn't work out so well.
I am fascinated by the number of white women who voted for Trump despite his antics. Would love to get some kind of insight behind their thinking.
America got a vote the world didn't.
I just the Paris agreement holds, and the US stays with NATO.
I just the Paris agreement holds, and the US stays with NATO.
If you say so.
Considerably less than half the vote, in one area, doesn't strike me as reason for suggesting I was mistaken when suggesting this election was anti-women.
A lot of people I know voted because "He won't win" just like people voted in Brexit because "we won't leave".
Democracy can be a stupid thing. People vote based on arbitrary reasons without much thinking.
The 'polls' also had everyone believe Hillary will win in a landslide.
Yep, and this is what bothers me the most about the people who said he won because of his policies that appeal to the middle class etc. What policies???? He laid out nothing. He just made sweeping generalisations mostly. No concrete, detailed plans, meaning the people who apparently voted for him for these "policies" do not even know the details of how he'll do what he says, just some sparse generalisations.
No one is going to convince me bigotry didn't play a part.
Him being a climate change denier & calling NATO obsolete is fecking frightening.
I'd even liked O'Malley better to be perfectly honest. They've made easily the worst choice there. Probably to win women yet it backfired spectacularly.
The 'polls' also had everyone believe Hillary will win in a landslide.
Aye, but just look at how many votes were "change" votes & that tells you everything you need to know, people wanted a president promising change and not a wall street puppet.
The polls were so off with Trump & Brexit because many were "secret" votes.
I remember asking someone who voted leave during Brexit on why they did it, and their answer was - Whenever I vote for something the other side wins so I voted Leave.
So yeah, democracy.
I didn't suggest you were mistaken. I simply pointed out that quite a few of them voted for him (which I myself found surprising btw)
But even still, why give a vote to someone because they won't win? That has no logic behind it. Of course, even if that did happen, it may explain some of the white women vote but surely not the majority of them
Aye, but just look at how many votes were "change" votes & that tells you everything you need to know, people wanted a president promising change and not a wall street puppet.
The polls were so off with Trump & Brexit because many were "secret" votes.
Which is odd why they elected Trump then.
Is he actually gonna build that wall?
Or get a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary?
Or get a special prosecutor to investigate Hillary?
If it was any other country, I'd just laugh at them. But this being America, I fear Trump will bring the rest of the world down with them.Aye, but just look at how many votes were "change" votes & that tells you everything you need to know, people wanted a president promising change and not a wall street puppet.
The polls were so off with Trump & Brexit because many were "secret" votes.
Okay.
White feminism shows you that often times, white women don't care about racism or bigotry. So things like racism, gay marriage, anti-Islam, abortion won't matter to them.
Not all of course.
If I had to take a guess they prefer to vote Republican whoever the nominee is. Misogyny in the way Trump did does not bother them as much as you'd think. I'll say it again, plenty will want to be in Melania's shoes.
College educated white males were 15% + Trump. Feck me.
What's the general feeling as to why Clinton lost? She seemed like a sure thing to me.
Minority turnout was lower than Obama, but I doubt Bernie would have done better, he was mainly unknown to them, so I can easily see why they thought Clinton would be better.
I'm beyond skeptical of the polls that show him crushing Trump. The only demographic he'd have done better than Clinton was probably the working class white voters (which she didn't do well in). But then I think as a whole, he'd have been too "left" for that group anyways, and they might still have gone for Trump. He'd have hit him repeatedly with the "socialist" (which seems to be almost as much as dirty word as "communist" in the US) card, and with what's happening in Venezuela, it might have worked.
Before her opponent was Trump, did she seem like a sure thing? I seem to remember when she put herself forward that most of America deemed her un-electable
Isn't there a theory that a jury with a majority of women is more likely to convict a women?
Quite. It's hard to process.
They are silly as many minorities still remember what Bill did in 94 and the impact it had on their communities.
Yep. Particularly in rape cases, women are more likely to not believe the accuser than men.
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