When I hear "What about... and what about....", what my brain translates it into is "whubbubbubb.... aaawhuuubbubbubb...". Hence the word.
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When I hear "What about... and what about....", what my brain translates it into is "whubbubbubb.... aaawhuuubbubbubb...". Hence the word.
Sounds like you are you're own worst enemy. Stand up and be proud of yourself bud and don't fall for you're insecurities. Show a little love and humor and enjoy the satire from some of those epic comics you just mentioned. When you can get a little solace from comedy you can lighten you're mood by coming to a thread like this and having a bit of a laugh and some banter over a serious and dangerous situation we all find ourselves in. Remember this, a trump or pence presidency, a republican controlled legislature and a conservative leaning court is a danger to us all no matter what end of the spectrum you may be. We are all in the same boat and if I was sitting across the bar from you and heard what you just said I would buy you a few drinks and have a good few laughs. Chin up man, you only have one life.So you can discriminate against me as well? Na, thanks.
It is even worse. I am a minority in a minority. I am fairly ugly by general standards. People constantly judge me and discriminate against me because of my appearance. It is harder to get jobs, housing or even friends. Every day when I leave my home I get these looks. Every day I am reminded that they don't accept how I am. They laugh at me. Call me names. Make jokes about me.
Are you guys also outraged about monsters like Louis CK, Amy schumer (sexist), Sarah Silverman (nazi), Jerry Seinfeld (homophobe), Jimmy Kimmel (racist)? I totally am. When I watch chappelle, I always end up with tears in my eyes. Their comedy is incredibly offensive.
Alleged humour is a touchy subject
http://heatst.com/culture-wars/drexel-u-prof-who-called-for-white-genocide-to-keep-his-job/
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/2...osting-white-genocide-tweet-on-christmas.html
It's just amazing that the right can claim to be defenders of free speech. Look at the reaction to the phrase Black Lives Matter. Look at the witchhunt against a guy who didn't stand for the anthem. Look at what has been done to BDS on college campuses. These aren't fringe reactions, the right-wing president, with 60 million backers, holds these views.
And the comparison is always to some college students shouting shame at a costume. The level at which these actions are taking place is so far apart I don't even know how a comparison can be made.
The only distasteful thing here is that you think you can tell me what I find offensive. It just shows that you lack any perspective; in the end you are just another bigot.
Not sure what's being discussed right now but I presume the whole Milo thing is fair game for this thread? Am I the only one who thinks that he wouldn't have been frozen out by CPAC and Breitbart if he'd made near to the knuckle comments about girls having sex with older men?
I mean, the fecking president has gone on record telling a prepubescent girl he'd date her when she's older. Milo's a troll who can't complain about getting his fingers burnt if he chooses to dance with the devil but it's kind of depressing the way his new comrades revert to type given half a chance.
I mean, the fecking president has gone on record telling a prepubescent girl he'd date her when she's older. Milo's a troll who can't complain about getting his fingers burnt if he chooses to dance with the devil but it's kind of depressing the way his new comrades revert to type given half a chance.
You have to post a picture now.So you can discriminate against me as well? Na, thanks.
It is even worse. I am a minority in a minority. I am fairly ugly by general standards. People constantly judge me and discriminate against me because of my appearance. It is harder to get jobs, housing or even friends. Every day when I leave my home I get these looks. Every day I am reminded that they don't accept how I am. They laugh at me. Call me names. Make jokes about me.
Okay, sure.
As conservative organizations, can you blame them?
We are all bigots, otherwise we wouldn't debate, we would just agree with each others.
I really hope not, but my expectation bar is pretty low for the kind of cognative-dissonance-moralism those folks are capable of. Trump, who said what you quoted, is speaking after all. Kind of proves your point.
Not sure blame is the issue. It does puncture the alt-right rhetoric about how they're a fresh take on the conservative ideology that would never discriminate on the basis of someone's sexuality, which is how Milo was held on such a pedestal.
But you realize that they are full of shit, they are conservatives, it's literally in their name. If they were what they pretend to be they would be extremely liberal and we both know that they execrate that idea.
As far as I understand, even that Milo uber-cnut agrees with that. Absolute farce, really.
Via Colbert, a protester's sign:
Tinkle, tinkle little czar
Putin put you where you are
Tinkle, tinkle little czar
Putin put you where you are
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Slowed down he just sounds like a drunk.That could become a thing. Nice.
Isn't he trying to animate a debate? With this type of subject if no one plays the devil advocate, you will only see one type of answers.
He isn't though...I used to think, it was about him being edgy - but, he genuinely has some strange thoughts.
Maybe he has strange thoughts but in that instance and with the little I have seen, both situations are really different. Milo is advocating and even claiming that it's ideal for very young homosexuals to be under the wings of older men (A gay friend told me the same thing once). While Maher asks and defends that maybe two people who are on the same page shouldn't be seen as criminal even if one is a minor and the other an adult.
AKA: a Greek mentor.
Certain customs and manners are expected? Might be good advice if you were a tourist travelling to these places. This is the president of the strongest country in the world who needs to cut through the bullshit. The members of parliament can criticise all they want, it doesn't really have any impact on anything outside of Trump not being given the usual welcome that a US president would expect. Likewise for any other country you want to pick - they can think up as many cheap jokes as they want. None of it will change the fact that he's not a soft touch and will hold them all to account when it comes to dealing with America.
I get it. If immigration is carefully monitored, that means don't be complacent and step it up. Again, America needs to be looking ahead, not waiting for something to occur. A terrorist organization like ISIS might spend time, energy and money getting somebody in for the same reason that Al-Qaeda did; these are highly-trained individuals, not some random idiot who sympathises with them on the internet and feels like he could be of use. Anybody who equates those two types of people doesn't know very much about how professional certain terrorist organizations truly are. The US government once underestimated them like that. That isn't a mistake they want to repeat.
I'm all for renewable energy, just not at the immediate expense of families struggling to live in increasingly difficult circumstances. Assure me that Obama did enough to assist all of those communities in making the transition and we can talk further on this one. To lay it all at the feet of Trump would be a cop-out. What we're seeing was an inevitable response to the Obama years, who should have foreseen this. Whilst his intentions were admirable, he overlooked a lot.
See above. Communities are being devastated as their jobs are taken elsewhere. If previous administrations weren't willing to help with the transition to more environmentally friendly industries, it's only natural that they will push back. It's a dying industry? Yeah, well who's giving the poor bastards a chance to keep living when it's completely dead.
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I'm so happy about this, even I was starting to question if they were bussed in.
@Fener1907 , I'm still confused about whether you're "playing the part" of a supporter, or not.
In any case, 9/11 is an intelligence failure, not a an immigration failure. Immigration control seems to me like the worst tool possible to prevent terrorism. I'm gonna venture that it costs more than intelligence when you add on all externalities, and probably yields worse results per $.
In any case, 9/11 is an intelligence failure, not a an immigration failure. Immigration control seems to me like the worst tool possible to prevent terrorism. I'm gonna venture that it costs more than intelligence when you add on all externalities, and probably yields worse results per $.
I've been wondering about that too
Damn sight better fare than Alex though either way. The thread has got interesting again.
I've been wondering about that too
Damn sight better fare than Alex though either way. The thread has got interesting again.
Oh, the posts are very good in terms of their construction and arguing.
You see this part is problematic because you basically hit beside the target and a lot of people do that. What you are describing has nothing to do with immigration control, it's the only purpose of Civil Human intelligence, it has nothing to do with immigration policies. The other organizations linked with that problem are border control administrations because you don't need to use official immigration routes to enter a country. Basically you are talking about Homeland security and try to use an inadequate tool.
tbh everyone does if you slow a video of them speaking down
I think he might have convinced himself by now! And maybe one or two readers.
With Trump the content also sounds drunk though.
Good point
What's problematic is that people don't seem to understand the travel ban. What I've described is is related to immigration control, and treating them like they're mutually exclusive will only allow the complacency of the past to creep back in. The fomentation of extremism in Islamic countries is a growing concern, more so since the emergence of IS. Supposing that those extremists decide to strike on American soil, and seeing as it's possible they can slip the net due to inadequate security measures through official routes, eliminating the possibility of them entering by that method automatically makes their job more difficult. Their ability to use unofficial routes is a another issue that doesn't make this any less true.
Firstly, before I go any further, may I compliment you on being maybe the first and only Trump supporter (or sympathiser) who has posted in this thread that is intelligent, articulate, non confrontational and not condescending or rude. It's a pleasure reading your replies, and it's no hassle responding to you either. Thank you.
The respect thing towards Trump is just more of an outsiders view of the US President. Bush was seen as an utter moron, but a very dangerous one, Obama was seen by many as a thoroughly decent chap, articulate, witty and someone who truly cared. Although he might not have been perfect, he was as near as damn it for many outside the US. He had and still has a ridiculously high approval rating in most of Europe and I suspect the western world. Trump has sunk to new depths never seen before and he's a month in. From reading the press here in the UK and reading much of what Europe is saying, and especially with his attitude towards Russia, he may find it difficult to negotiate, or to be respected. You say he won't be a soft touch, that may be true, I don't necessarily believe that, but at the same time, he might not get the chance if other countries turn their back on him and refuse to deal with him at all. China have already given him a strong lecture on Climate Change, and when China are having a go at you about that issue, then you know you are in the shit. Also, his track record isn't good so far and doesn't give a lot of hope. He backed down to Mexico and lied about the meeting with their President, he lied about the phone call with the Australian PM and he's already backed down to China about Taiwan. His inexperience and lack of political nous is showing already and he doesn't listen to his advisors, and that needs to change and fast.
I agree that ISIS could indeed send someone in to the US, but as I said, I doubt it. Far more likely they will radicalise someone already inside the US. However, I have said this before, Trump has hotels all over the world, if he pisses them off, I am pretty certain you will start seeing his properties attacked around the world. His immigration policies need to be carefully thought out as the West is sick of wars and sick of wars in the Middle East. He may not get the back up from other countries his predecessors relied upon, nor will he get the public support either. As I said, his personal vulnerability is unique and with his short temper and irrational personality I hate to think how he would react if one of his hotels got hit. It's another reason why he should have sold them before being allowed to become President imho. That's slightly off topic though, and I understand the USA not wanting another 9/11 but the UK doesn't want another 7/7 and France doesn't want anymore attacks neither does Belgium, but none of those are going as far as the US is and singling out certain countries that's really a smokescreen for stopping people of a certain religion entering the country.
I never laid it all at Trump's feet, just saying it's important how he moves forward from here. I've seen first hand what the death of an industry does to somewhere, but the fact is you cannot live in the past nor hold on to it, you have to move forward. It's now Trump's responsibility how he does that now, and giving the coal industry a stay of execution is dangerous for many reasons but also, it lumps (sorry) the problem in the lap of the next President. It's a bit of a cop out imho. Retraining and educating the people with new skills to find new jobs is a better idea than propping up something that really should be left to die gracefully.
To be fair he could be mistaken for being pissed half the time when viewed at full speed.
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