I never said scientist could ban anything. The 'they' in this instance was meant to mean relevant authorities.
Take your point on the rest of it though.
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Take your point on the rest of it though.
"Psh, 'science', they once said the Sun goes around the Earth so those guys can shut up."
"General relativity? Man seriously feck Einstein, I haven't forgotten about your cosmological constant you establishment hack."
He's still there. Getting ready to tweet.
I (and I suspect you) don't know enough about the process of obtaining funding to pass extensive comment. But I imagine credibility plays a part in it; as harsh as it may seem, not all ideas deserve funding unless they are backed with logical, credible reasoning. Perhaps certain funding initiatives (or their lack thereof) are causing us to lag in certain areas. I don't know, and (again) you don't really know either. But on the whole, the entire point of science, in its broadest definition, is to find out stuff, and then disprove that stuff by finding new stuff that's got more logic and evidence behind it, because science is partly about a willingness to accept new ideas based on evidence.
It's as if science never gave us Kelly Le Brock...
That's just weird
Marketing =\= science
At least when it comes to cancer and smoking
At least when it comes to cancer and smoking
Clearly, one must be wary of the funding and the origin of published science, but given that the entire scientific model is based on ripping the shit out of peers published work (supposedly for the betterment of knowledge, but assuming a cynical view point just for you, to further your career) if you're talking crap, you'll be publicly and professionally slaughtered. CF: Wakefield, climate change deniers, smoking lobbies, etc, etc
However, to slightly drag the thread back on track, Trump's administration is littered with people who are specifically ignoring or cherry picking data and scientific expert opinion to further their, what I'll generously call ideological, cause.
Get your head out from the depths of your ass, take ten deep breaths. It's not about you having an opinion. It's about your inability to make a coherent argument and go on the defensive like a preteen child in an effort to wind people up. Put the only two brain cells you have together and think about why everyone is getting on your ass. At least posters like @barros, who is a Trump supporter, can engage relatively nicely, even when most of us disagree with what he says including me. And I never would argue that he should be threadbanned.
If you want to make controversial statements, then no problem. Prepare to back it up maturely. If you can't, then go on back to YouTube, /pol/, or /r/The_Donald.
@JustAFan also answered it perfectly.
It will never happen due to what a lot of people want. Just look at the recent news. A man who is suing the EPA is now in charge of the EPA. The new President has decided keeping rivers free of coal mine pollutants isn't worth it so that we can get cheap electricity. A man who wanted to abolish the Dept of Energy is now in charge of the Dept of Energy.
It should be noted that part of this so called anti-establishment trump presidency is trying to tear down the EPA rules that actually try and protect people from known agents that have negative health consequences. They just want to ignore the science so they and their friends can make money. Without any pesky scientists getting in their way.
Bold every single word and underline the last point. BINGO!!!
Not much. Published a few months ago so quite current.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5176373/pdf/conc-23-398.pdf
Cannabis has not been studied clinically as a treatment for malignancy. Unfortunately, many claims of “curative” benefits of cannabis (fresh buds, dried cannabis, or “oil” products) can be found on the Internet, extrapolating the results of preclinical work to humans without any basis in fact. The only clinical study published to date that used cannabinoids enrolled patients with glioblastoma multiforme and was based on extensive preclinical work by the same investigators63. Their small study (9 patients) showed the safety of intracranial administration of thc and demonstrated antiproliferative effects in some of the patients. All patients eventually progressed and died, but not because of any effects of the extract. The investigators are actively continuing their clinical and research work, focusing on tumours of the central nervous system62.
I'm guessing you think that the moon landing was faked
You don't get much more establishment than the Moon.
It is a great moon. And we are going to make the Martians pay for the wall we are going to build between the moon and Mars.
How long before someone makes a Uranus joke?
What a turn this thread has taken over night. 
The problem is that contrary to popular belief, at least by some, cancer is per se a very complex disease (it's actually not one disease but a group of many, very different ones), further complicated by the fact that different people's bodies react differently to the exposition to different agents and/or to different concentrations of agents. Furthermore, we as humans are exposed on a daily basis to thousands of different agents, in an uncontrolled environment, contrary to the controlled environment of reasearch in a lab with cell cultures and/or preclinical research (often rodents). With some exceptions (e.g. asbestos and mesothelioma), no serious physician or scientist would ever claim to know exactly what caused a certain cancer. If somebody claims that 'cancer' is an easy to avoid, easy to cure disease, it's BS.
A million times THIS. Cannot be said often enough.
Do you happen to have a definition of what these polls defined as a sex crime?
I go away for about a day and a half and now we're discussing cancer treatment? Guess it's been a slow weekend.
Oh, and stop feeding the troll.
Oh, and stop feeding the troll.
So you think one of the biggest capitalists in the world is the solution? I don't see your logic
"Whataboutery" and "whataboutism" are awfully long-winded to type. I'd like to contribute to the English language by suggesting the term "whubbery" instead. You're welcome, English.
Aaaaaaaanyway.
After the biggest WUMversion this thread has seen, any chance we could get back on track here? I invite Alex to still address the questions related to Trump that he's dodged, but at the same time I invite him to start new threads about the rest if he wants.
Aaaaaaaanyway.
After the biggest WUMversion this thread has seen, any chance we could get back on track here? I invite Alex to still address the questions related to Trump that he's dodged, but at the same time I invite him to start new threads about the rest if he wants.
I don't disagee with any of that. Nonetheless I'd like to think that not all of Trump's 63 million voters are racist tools who want to keep their privilege intact.
Yes indeed
I'm guessing you think it was real
The attentions back on Trump's lawyer Cohen. He hand delivered a letter to Flynn's office 1 week before he resigned which is about a peace plan between Russia/Ukraine and having the sanctions against Russia lifted.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-russia.html?_r=0
This is the same guy who is mentioned in the Steele dossier.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/us/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-russia.html?_r=0
This is the same guy who is mentioned in the Steele dossier.
fecking hell. Crackpot tin hatters never fail to amuse.Oh noes! we can't have that can we?
No, I certainly don't think they are either, I sincerely hope the majority aren't!
They are not.
However many of them are under educated (deliberately so, it has long been republican policy in states they control to feck education for the masses for this reason) and fed a diet of propaganda from brietbart and fox that makes them easily manipulated into voting against their own interests, usually using 'patriotism' as tool.
Ironically, like in the UK where the tories drape themselves in the Union Flag, the party who shout about loving the country are actually the ones who don't give two shiny shites about it, and would see it burn if it added a couple of zeros to their bank balances.
Lolz
Did you really need to write all this? Look if you're gonna accuse me of not backing up my controversial statements then at least point them out, coz in the thread we spoke about a lot of subjects.
Then if I were to call you rude or basically tell you that I think you have anger issues you'd say that I childishly go on the defensive when actually you're the one throwing things out of your pram or throwing tantrums.
Just some facts for you.
1) With a powerful telescope, you can see the landing sites, including the abandoned Moon Rover
2) We know exactly how far away from the Earth the moon is, thanks to mirrors placed by Armstrong on the first mission. Lasers are bounced off those mirrors and reflected back to earth, the time it takes for the light to return tells us the distance between the earth and moon. That experiment has been repeated in almost every University on the planet at some point. I've witnessed it in person.
Do carry on and explain how that is not real.
If you are going to take anything from all this, make it this: You must back up your arguments, especially when posting in a 'hostile' environment...
Why does it have to be a myth? Why can't you look at it as the scientists and doctors found a serious illness and threat to peoples lives and quality of life, so they came up with something to combat it? Statins don't work on their own anyway, they are not some wonder drug, they have to be combined with a healthy diet AND lots of exercise. So where is the conspiracy there?
Also, the vast majority of countries that provide statins to the public do so FREELY! as they have some form of Universal Healthcare, such as the NHS in the UK. If this was all a scam then why wouldn't the Governments be in on it? And why would Governments be continually fighting these companies or like in the UK, have laws that say they can't screw people and have to have fair prices? Your argument just doesn't hold up to any scrutiny, it may sound good on a website, but it just doesn't work in the real world.
I really wasn't.
Fake lasers mate!
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