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Why do you have to be insulted? There are conflicting views everywhere. Most views are based on funding

Anyway why would there be an agenda to cure cancer when it's a money making machine?
Why would they use renewable energy when they can sell oil?
Why stop wars when they can sell guns and ammo?
Ok but you are using a blanket term to encompass groups... Sometimes small teams of individuals. Some with funding some without...
 
You could make money from a cancer cure, not to mention save the lives of their loved ones.

You can make money from renewable energy.

Wars, well people are not yet willing to stop them for more reasons than money.
 
Why do you have to be insulted? There are conflicting views everywhere. Most views are based on funding

Anyway why would there be an agenda to cure cancer when it's a money making machine?
Why would they use renewable energy when they can sell oil?
Why stop wars when they can sell guns and ammo?
Please just stop. You are doing a disservice to thousands upon thousands of scientists dedicating their entire working lives to trying to find medications and cures to cancer, usually with little compensation for their education level.
 
Please just stop. You are doing a disservice to thousands upon thousands of scientists dedicating their entire working lives to trying to find medications and cures to cancer, usually with little compensation for their education level.

Yeah, reading that again it's actually enormously insulting.
 
You really have little to no idea about the US government or the establishment. Use that Google tool more and in a better way.
That post you're responding to there is truly quite remarkable.

Calls capitalism the establishment, then goes on about how a billionaire and the party that promotes deregulated capitalism "might one day become" the establishment.
 
I don't get what you are saying, do you believe that the things I highlighted from your post do not reflect what he is about?

If you mean that he hasn't said he is a card carrying racist white nationalist, I'd first ask why that surprises you and second what more would you like for him to do to convince you? I guess you want the shell casings too? Ballistics report all corroborated?

'Smoking Gun' means conclusive evidence.

I haven't said Bannon isn't a white supremacist. I'm just interested to know if there is actual direct evidence, especially since in his Vatican speech he unreservedly praised those who fought Nazi Germany as 'heroes', not something you typically find with White supremacists. And there is more in that speech that indicates his world view is not directly tied to racism. So there is inconclusive evidence to the contrary.

Most White supremacists are proud and happy to 'out' themselves. Bannon has been in the public eye for a long time, so yes I would find it a little surprising if he hadn't been caught out yet. At the same time I wouldn't be shocked by any means if is exposed in the future, given some of his associates.
 
Even Bush is worried about Trump!
And yet most of the anti-science views are based on no scientific evidence whatsoever, instead resorting to bizarre conspiracy theories. Like the idea that we're deliberately not curing cancer.

These supposedly 'establishment' scientists would argue for the use of renewable energy over oil, and would likely recognise - in many cases - the absurdity of war.

I believe that we're not coz there's too much money involved in not only diagnosis and treatment of cancer but also in the things which cause cancer, i.e. the foods that we eat and the diets we are prescribed (high sugar, high carb, low fat). Obesity more often than not leads to type 2 diabetes and then cancer.
 
Please just stop. You are doing a disservice to thousands upon thousands of scientists dedicating their entire working lives to trying to find medications and cures to cancer, usually with little compensation for their education level.
Amazing isn't it. He actually thinks no scientists are working on curing diseases. :lol:
 
The way I see it is current government (pre trump) and the ones before along with their policies. Also, giant corporations such as the pharmaceutical industries, universities are considered part of the establishment. Establishments come and go. One day Trump and the republicans may be the establishment but right now they are the change. Capitalism is the establishment. The EU is the establishment, brexit is the change. There's more I guess one could write an article about it. Some are confused by this, for example the band greenday still sing about anti-establishment but they were urging people to vote for Hillary (that was confusing).
The only resemblance Donald Trump has to 'the change' is that he too has caused headaches, night sweats, reduced libido and vaginal dryness amongst a good portion of the American people.
 
Yeah it's a bit bizarre. It again ignores the fact that scientists and other university academics have often pioneered controversial, unpopular ideas which have in the long-term advanced society but were unpopular at the time. It also ignores that, inevitably, whoever is in power has some level of establishment to their name; it's pretty much unavoidable. It's become such a cop-out term, though.
Totally bizarre to use it with science, the field that is driven by a desire for renewal. It's also funny when you see people like Farage use it to refer to "sneering elites".

I also just noticed he used the term "geo-engineering" in his post. Could this be a moment for the CHEMTRAILS! klaxon?
 
I believe that we're not coz there's too much money involved in not only diagnosis and treatment of cancer but also in the things which cause cancer, i.e. the foods that we eat and the diets we are prescribed (high sugar, high carb, low fat). Obesity more often than not leads to type 2 diabetes and then cancer.

A bold claim: do you have any fact-based evidence to support it?
 
That post you're responding to there is truly quite remarkable.

Calls capitalism the establishment, then goes on about how a billionaire and the party that promotes deregulated capitalism "might one day become" the establishment.
Go on then YOU define establishment. Also what are people so afraid of with Trump at the helm if he doesn't represent change?
 
Of course the cure for cancer is too broad a concept because there are many different types of cancer and each will have it's own cure.

Some cancers can actually be cured thanks to the work of scientists.
 
Totally bizarre to use it with science, the field that is driven by a desire for renewal. It's also funny when you see people like Farage use it to refer to "sneering elites".

I also just noticed he used the term "geo-engineering" in his post. Could this be a moment for the CHEMTRAILS! klaxon?

We're already at cancer deliberately not being cured, so I think we might have skipped past Chemtrails.
 
I believe that we're not coz there's too much money involved in not only diagnosis and treatment of cancer but also in the things which cause cancer, i.e. the foods that we eat and the diets we are prescribed (high sugar, high carb, low fat). Obesity more often than not leads to type 2 diabetes and then cancer.
Of course there would be absolutely no money in finding foods that don't cause cancer and a cure for it. Nobody would want to buy into that. They wouldn't even let you onto Dragons Den with something so worthless.

On the plus side you probably already think people only have children because a secret society led by Cow & Gate and Mothercare are putting something into the water so they can continue to make money selling baby clothes and food.
 
Go on then YOU define establishment. Also what are people so afraid of with Trump at the helm if he doesn't represent change?

As difficult as it may be, there is no single definition of the 'establishment' beyond the denoting of a powerful group of people who hold power.
 
Amazing isn't it. He actually thinks no scientists are working on curing diseases. :lol:
He'd be amazed to meet this guy I went to high school with whose on a team that is working on a cure for cancer.

They're focusing on the amino acid that causes cancer cell replication.
 
Even Bush is worried about Trump!


I believe that we're not coz there's too much money involved in not only diagnosis and treatment of cancer but also in the things which cause cancer, i.e. the foods that we eat and the diets we are prescribed (high sugar, high carb, low fat). Obesity more often than not leads to type 2 diabetes and then cancer.

Yeah when we find cures we call up Big Pharma and tell them to come and blow up our labs so word doesn't get out. We want nothing to do with curing diseases that have hit dozens in our families. By the way, the perfect "customer" for Pharma is one that lives for decades and stays on medications throughout. Cancer medications typically add months currently. That's the best out there because cancer is a bitch.
 
A bold claim: do you have any fact-based evidence to support it?

I'm sure I can humor you with some fact based stuff. What are your beliefs based on?

This is from cancer research
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/abo...and-cancer/how-being-overweight-causes-cancer
Lets move on to cholesterol and heart disease, probably thousands of articles on the myth of cholesterol
https://www.google.com/search?q=the...firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=qEeqWLehM6fc8AfsjqP4Dw
Diabetes and Cancer
http://www.diabetesforecast.org/2012/oct/diabetes-and-cancer-what-s-the-connection.html
 
I'm sure I can humor you with some fact based stuff. What are your beliefs based on?

This is from cancer research
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/abo...and-cancer/how-being-overweight-causes-cancer
Lets move on to cholesterol and heart disease, probably thousands of articles on the myth of cholesterol
https://www.google.com/search?q=the...firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=qEeqWLehM6fc8AfsjqP4Dw
Diabetes and Cancer
http://www.diabetesforecast.org/2012/oct/diabetes-and-cancer-what-s-the-connection.html
None of which allude to the conspiracy you hinted at...
 
Amazing isn't it. He actually thinks no scientists are working on curing diseases. :lol:
Unfortunately there are several others posters claiming the same here on redcafe. I have several FB friends doing the same. Drives me nuts. They are basically saying we want people to die painfully. :wenger: Having read and cried over case report forms for children with terminal cancer Mr Styles can feck right off (sorry mods). He and Trump deserve each other.
 
I'm sure I can humor you with some fact based stuff. What are your beliefs based on?

This is from cancer research
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/abo...and-cancer/how-being-overweight-causes-cancer
Lets move on to cholesterol and heart disease, probably thousands of articles on the myth of cholesterol
https://www.google.com/search?q=the...firefox-b&gfe_rd=cr&ei=qEeqWLehM6fc8AfsjqP4Dw
Diabetes and Cancer
http://www.diabetesforecast.org/2012/oct/diabetes-and-cancer-what-s-the-connection.html
All knowledge gained by scientists who are studying the causes of cancer, how to prevent cancer and cure it.

That does not at all support your claims about scientists not trying to find a cure.

:nervous::lol:
 
All knowledge gained by scientists who are studying the causes of cancer, how to prevent cancer and cure it.

That does not at all support your claims about scientists not trying to find a cure.

:nervous::lol:
Well the cholesterol myth was based on science. I think a third of the population is on statin drugs if I'm not mistaking. Based on a lie!
 
Unfortunately there are several others posters claiming the same here on redcafe. I have several FB friends doing the same. Drives me nuts. They are basically saying we want people to die painfully. :wenger: Having read and cried over case report forms for children with terminal cancer Mr Styles can feck right off (sorry mods). He and Trump deserve each other.
Conspiracy theories like that always have a most extreme view of human nature. Sandy Hook truthers are similarly cruel. Or anything really on Infowars.
 
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