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Where do people get the idea from that Trump is anti-establishment? Like seriously? Because he's saying it or are there actual reasons why people believe that? Did he ever do something to support that claim?
 
This thread has become the perfect embodiment of how Trump and his team go about their days. Make a statement, have statement challenged, muddy argument with unrelated examples and hypotheticals, get defensive when examples are challenged, talk about conspiracies, through a million different arguments into the mix and hope everyone forgets what the original statement was about so that people stop challenging it.
yea, well what was the original argument then mr pigeon? it was simply me interpreting what Trump said about Sweden and then some poster jumping on me saying he/she was sick of people making excuses for him or 'interpreting' what he said. this was the original argument which spiralled into this!!
 
From the same CNN article absove. They're installing Group Think in the White House...

Fielding questions about Deare's reassignment, Sanders said that people who don't agree with President Donald Trump should not have a job in his White House.

"I don't think that any person that is there in order to carry out the President's agenda should be against the President's agenda," Sanders said during a briefing with reporters in West Palm Beach, Florida. "It seems pretty silly that you would have someone who is not supportive of what you are trying to accomplish there to carry out that very thing."
 
Where do people get the idea from that Trump is anti-establishment? Like seriously? Because he's saying it or are there actual reasons why people believe that? Did he ever do something to support that claim?

Yeah he perpetuates it himself
 
Oh god the illuminati is probably my biggest pet peeve.

They all sold their soul to the devil in return for money, fame and success. Now they're spreading satanic messages in their songs, if you play it backwards at 0.25x speed this 5 second clip sounds like "lucifer" :rolleyes:

I went out for dinner with an old friend some years ago and that was the first time I had heard the theory, he is big into these things! I laughed so much my sides hurt.

Where do people get the idea from that Trump is anti-establishment? Like seriously? Because he's saying it or are there actual reasons why people believe that? Did he ever do something to support that claim?

It is because he doesn't come from a political background. Never mind that the establishment is political and financial with him belonging to the latter.
 
Your posts over the course of the evening revealed more and more about your beliefs and personality, but only when you started going in to the realms of anti-government and conspiracy theories did it all start to make sense. What I find utterly ludicrous, extremely ironic and very amusing is your faith in Trump and the fact you think he is anti-establishment. The sheer fact you have been duped and conned like the rest of his supporters also says a lot about your misguided and misplaced opinions. You said to numerous posters earlier that there was little point talking to them if they couldn't see the establishment was the problem, yet YOU cannot see Trump is the most establishment President ever to be elected. Just look at his cabinet. He made speeches slagging corporate bankers and attacked Hillary over her ties to Goldman Sachs and yet he has employed SIX former GS workers to join his staff. His staff that are worth BILLIONS, each one worth more than the entire Obama staff put together. But yeah, Trump is anti-establishment isn't he? For fecks sake! :lol:


@Mr Pigeon is 100% right, and for that reason, I'm out now.
Was THAT your reply to this?

Our views are too far apart especially when you bring government into the picture. Governments can't go against the big conglomerates, they hold too much voting and financial power.

coz that has nothing to do with my earlier posts on establishment (which I will return to later). using earlier irrelevant posts to challenge a legitimate problem, i.e. that corporations basically run the world and hold considerable leverage and power over governments? while ignoring the rest of my post?

So to quote Mr. Pigeon who you said was 100% right

Make a statement, have statement challenged, muddy argument with unrelated examples, through a million different arguments into the mix and hope everyone forgets what the original statement was about so that people stop challenging it.
 
Didn't say anything about distance from the moon. But have YOU seen the landing sites, including the abandoned Moon Rover through a powerful telescope, as you say?
I haven't seen you in real life so how do I know you exist in the flesh and aren't a Russian bot? Christ on a bike, what's next? The sun revolves around the earth? Elvis is alive?
 
Did you answer this @Alex Styles ?

I'm intrigued as to your logic here too.
I had thought about it originally, before trump became president. to me it means that he is a shrewd and ultimately successful business man. not a politician. it's safe to say that capitalism won't be going anywhere with trump at the helm. however he wants change in america, saying for example that companies moving from the US to mexico will have higher taxes imposed, shows that he's actually trying to help his county by going against capitalistic strategies of moving elsewhere to employ cheaper labor or to take advantage of cheaper operational costs. And in any case establishment is not just capitalism. establishment (i.e. the regime) WAS trying to take away people's rights to bear arms in the US while the previous regimes GAVE that right in the first place.
 
Don't know why people are outraged. America voted for president, a man that admitted to grabbing women by the p**y.
 
I had thought about it originally, before trump became president. to me it means that he is a shrewd and ultimately successful business man. not a politician. it's safe to say that capitalism won't be going anywhere with trump at the helm. however he wants change in america, saying for example that companies moving from the US to mexico will have higher taxes imposed, shows that he's actually trying to help his county by going against capitalistic strategies of moving elsewhere to employ cheaper labor or to take advantage of cheaper operational costs. And in any case establishment is not just capitalism. establishment (i.e. the regime) WAS trying to take away people's rights to bear arms in the US while the previous regimes GAVE that right in the first place.

So the arms industry and the NRA aren't part of the establishment? The previous regime isn't part of the establishment?

You are confounding establishment and political opponents; every single things you mentioned in that post emanate from the establishment. Politicians, big companies, lobbyists.
 
establishment (i.e. the regime) WAS trying to take away people's rights to bear arms in the US while the previous regimes GAVE that right in the first place.
I am the biggest 2A person on this forum and that bit there is, top to bottom, absolute bollocks.

1) nobody in power moved to amend the Bill of Rights to remove the 2A

2) you're not "given" rights by the Constitution
 
I am the biggest 2A person on this forum and that bit there is, top to bottom, absolute bollocks.

1) nobody in power moved to amend the Bill of Rights to remove the 2A

2) you're not "given" rights by the Constitution

Tell that to Obama and the mainstream media. Now i know that you're talking bollocks. It was so obvious that there was an agenda. You can't just take people's rights just like that. You must first change their beliefs so they will be more accepting of the new situation. If you couldn't see the agenda then you're either blind or deaf or both.
 
Did he really just say the moon landings are fake? For fecks sake, our university does this laser experiment every year with guests when they have their "night of science" :lol:

Also, your telescope doesn't even need to be that powerful. You don't need to go to the Andes to do that, your local observatory will probably happily provide you with a view when they have their visitors day @Alex Styles
They are especially happy to do that since they can slam some sense into people like you.

Also, have you ever fecking thought about the fact that the soviets tracked those missions? Don't you think they would have told something if they thought they were a scam? Wouldn't they have been quite happy to do that?
 
He did have a point about cholesterol, to be fair.

Oh, there's a lot of that shit, always has been. Currently it's fecking gluten, my wife fell for that as well. In the end, after I told her to finally check with a doctor why she couldn't eat gluten, it turned out her body just couldn't store enough iodine and that was causing it.

That's one of the very few legitimate reasons for not being able to eat gluten, for the rest, it's just immagination.
 
It's just struck me how happy Alex was to write off all scientists as "the establishment", yet was giving out to us claiming we were being biased against all Trump voters...
Never wrote off ALL scientists or that's not what i meant. just the studies which have a funded agenda and or other studies, i.e. most studies and also gave examples of when science failed spectacularly
 
Come on...the Saturn rocket only had the computing power of a Nintendo 64, FFS. I for one wasn't fooled by that film of Slippy and Fox on the so-called Moon.
 
Come on...the Saturn rocket only had the computing power of a Nintendo 64, FFS. I for one wasn't fooled by that film of Slippy and Fox on the so-called Moon.

:lol:
 
Never wrote off ALL scientists or that's not what i meant. just the studies which have a funded agenda and or other studies, i.e. most studies and also gave examples of when science failed spectacularly

Can you explain why The Weather Channel, despite being co-owned by a climate change denier continue to dispute his beliefs and base their news on the facts of the scientists who work for it?
 
Make This Thread About Donald Again
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Quit letting this fe*ker troll and derail the thread.

Not sure it's derailing really. It's a Trump supporter airing their views in a thread about Trump.

I'm sure the thread will continue to circle jerk about how awful Trump is with or without him.
 
That's a great picture of him.

You can even see the white bits where his goggles were.

Dorito Mussolini seems to have stepped in it pretty loudly over Sweden, and they had to respond simply because reputation is everything for a tourist industry.

While the ramifications may be minor, its his disregard for truth that is the biggest danger. Next time it could be China he says something about, and things could go south very quickly indeed.

Hes an ignoramous, but he revels in being ignorant. So do his fans.
 
It f*cking infuriates me that in a country where black people were enslaved, shot at, attacked by dogs, attacked with acid...what makes a vast amount of white people impassioned is the notion that somebody might take their killing machines off them.
 
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