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Go back to my post and see the graphic I added after I posted, anyway I'm emigrant myself (I came here legally) but being Portuguese I know a lot of hispanics and Brazilians and I already said in the past the Mexicans are hard workers, some are smarter and soon they get a job they offer to pay taxes and get a lawyer to get legalized and others don't give 2 shits about it, I would deport the ones that don't give 2 shits about it and i know a few Portuguese as well.
 
BTW - Its pretty clear what Trump's strategy is with the presser and recent tweets. It's likely a Bannon inspired preemptive policy of delegitimizing the media so that when the eventual bad news on Russia hits the streets, his core supporters will either not believe it or be neutral about it.

Yeah, which is why according to info that was posted here earlier, Trump was and is so pissed off that his Tweets aren't getting his message across properly, or to enough people. He was apparently raging and is apoplectic that his approval rating is so low and the negative stories keep coming and taking hold, when his Tweets seem to be relatively ineffective aside from to his usual core supporters. He's trying so so hard to continually change the narrative. Mind you, in fairness to him he did successfully change the narrative yesterday. His press conference seemed to distract a lot of people away from the Flynn story and made them concentrate more on his moronic talk about uranium.
 
I'm just saying, if you live in a democracy you have to live with the will of the people, on whatever basis of election the country has decided on. You won't always get the person you personally voted for. I wish he hadn't won as well but he did.

I just think that if people use this to undermine democracy then the next President could be a lot more dangerous than this guy.
The nature of the win is a problem. He won the election due to 80,000 votes total in a few key states. Clinton got 3,000,000 more votes. The FBI and Russia were heavily involved. I don't call that a democratic election.
 
illegal Mexicans are less likely to engage in violent crime, less likely to be on welfare and far less likely to be unemployed compared to their US counter-parts.
Actually a high percentage of the emigrants on welfare are hispanics - don't recall the numbers but I think was on the 70's the Europeans 26, south Asian 32 or something like that. I'm on my phone so I'm not going to search for the link but you can see on my previous post the right numbers.
 
you can see on my previous post the right numbers.

:lol: According to who? The CIS is a sham of an organisation. Seriously, are you not fed up with posting stuff that gets debunked so easily? More to the point, you always post this sort of shit, it's actually worrying that you believe it, seriously.

Here, from WIKI.

The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is a non-profit research organization that "that favors far lower immigration numbers and produces research to further those views."[2] It was started as a spin-off from Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) in 1985.[3] The Center's self-described mission is to "provid[e] immigration policymakers, the academic community, news media, and concerned citizens with reliable information about the social, economic, environmental, security, and fiscal consequences of legal and illegal immigration into the United States."[4]

Reports published by the CIS have been widely deemed misleading and riddled with basic errors by scholars on immigration; think tanks from across the ideological and political spectrum; media of all stripes; several leading nonpartisan immigration-research organizations; and by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The organization has also drawn criticism for its financial and intellectual ties to extremist racists.[5][6][7][8]

As of 2017, the Southern Poverty Law Center has designated CIS as an anti-immigrant hate group.[9]
 
I'm just saying, if you live in a democracy you have to live with the will of the people, on whatever basis of election the country has decided on. You won't always get the person you personally voted for. I wish he hadn't won as well but he did.

I just think that if people use this to undermine democracy then the next President could be a lot more dangerous than this guy.

Objecting to and protesting against thinks is about as democratic as it gets.
 
:lol: According to who? The CIS is a sham of an organisation. Seriously, are you not fed up with posting stuff that gets debunked so easily? More to the point, you always post this sort of shit, it's actually worrying that you believe it, seriously.

Here, from WIKI.

Alternative facts
 
Alternative facts

It's not funny though, everyone is entitled to their opinion and his is always far right, which is fine as long as that's an informed decision and opinon, but the stuff he posts is always so badly informed it's frightening. It's like reading shit from Rush Limbaugh and now in the link he just posted he's actually quoting somewhere that has been branded a fecking HATE GROUP! It's seriously worrying.
 
It's not funny though, everyone is entitled to their opinion and his is always far right, which is fine as long as that's an informed decision and opinon, but the stuff he posts is always so badly informed it's frightening. It's like reading shit from Rush Limbaugh and now in the link he just posted he's actually quoting somewhere that has been branded a fecking HATE GROUP! It's seriously worrying.

If you look at the bottom of the statistics barrow posted you'll see a disclaimer saying that the majority of welfare received by illegals is made up of food ( free school meals for the children of undocumented workers) and Medicaid, while the "natives" are mostly cash and housing.
 
It's not funny though, everyone is entitled to their opinion and his is always far right, which is fine as long as that's an informed decision and opinon, but the stuff he posts is always so badly informed it's frightening. It's like reading shit from Rush Limbaugh and now in the link he just posted he's actually quoting somewhere that has been branded a fecking HATE GROUP! It's seriously worrying.

It is but ridicule is one of the ways to voice opposition.
 
Maybe Trump's paving the way for TrumpTV: "Hear the thoughts of Precedent Tramp on iimmmergrayshun, the new Star Wars movies, and Prime Minister Putting of Rush Hour - EXCLUSIVELY on TurmpTV!"
 
If you look at the bottom of the statistics barrow posted you'll see a disclaimer saying that the majority of welfare received by illegals is made up of food ( free school meals for the children of undocumented workers) and Medicaid, while the "natives" are mostly cash and housing.

It's madness. I wouldn't believe any of those statistics though they are so biased and obviously fudged.

It is but ridicule is one of the ways to voice opposition.

Agreed it is, but with all this FAKE NEWS stuff at the moment, and the way Trump is, and so many people falling for stuff, I think promoting hate groups propaganda deserves to be called out. Agreed though that ridicule is one of the best ways to do that, I guess I'm just tired and grumpy tonight.
 
I just listened to his speech/pk. :lol: I can't stop laughing. You can see how he is just making stuff up, because he is completely clueless and then he starts to believe his own words as if they are facts. He really believes what he says. The journalists desperately try to challenge his made up bogus, but but at this point he already believes in his own words and defends them with total confidence. The journalists just don't know how to deal with this. The president of the united states is living in his own wonderland.


oh and this beauty:
"And I’ll tell you what else I see. I see tone. You know the word “tone.” The tone is such hatred. I’m really not a bad person, by the way. No, but the tone is such — I do get good ratings, you have to admit that — the tone is such hatred."
 
Maybe Trump's paving the way for TrumpTV: "Hear the thoughts of Precedent Tramp on iimmmergrayshun, the new Star Wars movies, and Prime Minister Putting of Rush Hour - EXCLUSIVELY on TurmpTV!"
This has reminded me that the Darth Trump video exists, and rewatching his simultaneously cheered me up and depressed me yet further.

 
This has reminded me that the Darth Trump video exists, and rewatching his simultaneously cheered me up and depressed me yet further.



His ability to say so many threatening and awful things whilst simultaneously managing to go spells where he says nothing at all is remarkable.
 
Because most of them don't pay taxes but some are on welfare for example. They need to go after the people who hires them and pay cash - landscaping and construction companies are guilty.

This doesn't make sense, how can they be on welfare, not pay taxes and take jobs at the same time?

Last time I checked the highest number welfare recipients were white Americans, has that suddenly changed?

Also I cant speak for the US, but in the UK immigrants on average have a net positive fiscal impact on the economy, I can't imagine that being drastically different to the US - but I haven't looked this up to be sure.
 
@Carolina Red

I sometimes post on reddit and today someone finally replied to one of my crappy posts! The problem is I have no idea if what this guy said is legit or not, what would you say?

My post was:


He/she replied:
It's the federal government that backs student loans to send kids to college and who forgives them if they go into public service professions. It is also the federal government that funds special needs programs and guarantees that special needs students are given a free and appropriate education in comparison to their non-special needs peers.

The special needs bit specifically was hammered on during the DeVos hearings.

This may help you...
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thinkprogress.org/amp/p/1010f01cd708?client=safari
 
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Actually a high percentage of the emigrants on welfare are hispanics - don't recall the numbers but I think was on the 70's the Europeans 26, south Asian 32 or something like that. I'm on my phone so I'm not going to search for the link but you can see on my previous post the right numbers.
I'd need to look up the numbers about welfare, but I am very confident, that I have different ones.

Some articles about crime of immigrants:
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/criminalization-immigration-united-states
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798
http://www.law.uchicago.edu/faculty/miles/securecommunities
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1745-9133.12085/abstract
 
I'd need to look up the numbers about welfare, but I am very confident, that I have different ones.

Of course you do, as I posted proof of earlier, the site he is quoting has been branded a hate group and is responsible for posting extremely one sided figures and is a strong far right anti-immigration site.
 
I just had a revelation:

STOP CELEBRATING HIS APPROVAL RATINGS
He was the most unpopular candidate for president, ever, from the 2 major parties, and (obviously), the mist unpopular president ever elected.
His favourables on election day were -23 (+34,-58), today they are -8 (-43,+50).
You can add the caveats that election generally makes people more palatable (as seen in the initial few pages of this thread).
Even taking the most optimistic interpretation, he definitely hasn't lost any support; this is backed by countless articles and interviews of Trump voters, and polls showing the popularity of the wall and the ban. The only popularly condemned move seems to be the ACA repeal, and the GOP is taking its fair share of the blame for that. He has lived up to his promises, and will continue to please his supporters.
 

Did you read that? Nothing to do with Trump.
However on this occasion, Yorke appears to have been caught by a regulation introduced by the Obama administration.

It ruled that anyone who had visited Iran - along with Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Libya, Yemen or Sudan - were no longer allowed to use the visa waiver programme.

He can still get in if he applies for a US visa.
 
Maybe Trump's paving the way for TrumpTV: "Hear the thoughts of Precedent Tramp on iimmmergrayshun, the new Star Wars movies, and Prime Minister Putting of Rush Hour - EXCLUSIVELY on TurmpTV!"

You are watching Trump TV now. Live.

He is making the entire presidency the Truman/Trump Show.

He is just having a ball.... albeit at everyone else's expense.
 
Even taking the most optimistic interpretation, he definitely hasn't lost any support;

Well the Gallup poll in the Tweet I posted 10 posts above your one, completely contradicts that statement. He IS losing support. As numerous articles have stated, the hard-core (morons) will stick with him until the bitter end, but he is losing the educated voters and the independents who voted for him just because he wasn't Hillary and the Republican base who voted for him just because he was Republican. It's small losses, but it's roughly 2% since election day and the same percentage more disapprove of him (according to Gallup)
 
I just had a revelation:

STOP CELEBRATING HIS APPROVAL RATINGS
He was the most unpopular candidate for president, ever, from the 2 major parties, and (obviously), the mist unpopular president ever elected.
His favourables on election day were -23 (+34,-58), today they are -8 (-43,+50).
You can add the caveats that election generally makes people more palatable (as seen in the initial few pages of this thread).
Even taking the most optimistic interpretation, he definitely hasn't lost any support; this is backed by countless articles and interviews of Trump voters, and polls showing the popularity of the wall and the ban. The only popularly condemned move seems to be the ACA repeal, and the GOP is taking its fair share of the blame for that. He has lived up to his promises, and will continue to please his supporters.
Just a few results I've looked up:

Ban -
Fox: Favour 46% - Oppose 52%
Pew: 38-59
CNN: 47-53
Q-Pac: 46-51 (Opposition increases to 37-60 when looking solely at 120 day ban on refugees and to 26-70 for the indefinite ban on Syrian refugees)
PPP: 45-49
CBS: 45-51

It's higher support than you'd like in a modern society, but far from popular.

Not as many polls of the wall in ones I looked at, but:
CNN: Favour 38% - Oppose 60% (and opposition has increased since they last asked in September)
Fox: 54% of respondents said it's "not at all important" that Trump work on the wall in his first 100 days
PPP: 37-56 (if US has to pay up front for it)

And I can't remember seeing many ever that were in favour.

Whilst November's result was a shock to the system, I don't think it's reason enough to completely throw out the window previous truisms of political science, namely that favourability/approval correlates strongly with electoral support. As you pointed out many times during the campaign, Trump may have been the most unpopular candidate ever, but Clinton was the second most unpopular, and Trump won people that had negative views of both candidates by more than 2:1.
 
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