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makes you think that she is not coming out and ask for the rioters to stop , but how could she when her main sponsor also sponsoring the riots .
makes you think that she is not coming out and ask for the rioters to stop , but how could she when her main sponsor also sponsoring the riots .
Looks like the first stage of grief to me.The idea that Trump campaigns as an outsider ready to tear Washington apart from within, wins on the back of the disaffected voters this brings over, then proceeds to govern as a typical Washington GOPer seems absurd to me. Is he not planning on winning re-election? People said he'd pivot after winning the nomination.
Bull crap. If you know anything about politics you would know there are far worse politicians than her. On top of that Hillary had worked for this her whole life.
If anything, all the moronic Bernie clowns (some of who fecking voted for Johnson after Bernie. The guys are polar opposites!) smashed Hillary so much that at the end of the day she was somehow as bad as Trump. I hope those libtards are happy with PENCE leading them now. ENJOY
The economies and other key aspects of different states are so wildly different that the electoral college system is absolutely necessary. Obviously.
California, Texas and New York would be totally dictating the political landscape at the expense of just about everywhere else.
I find myself more concerned with the appointments he'll make. Rumored is Carson for Secretary of Education. Great, ID will be taught in schools as truth. Rumors of blowhards like Christie and Giuliani in potential positions. Perhaps fringe nutters like Bannon and Jones can call shots behind the scenes. Maybe Jones will include Barton for historical and religious facts.
Apparently, Pence doesn't believe smoking causes death. Maybe he's changed his mind since then.
Also cringeworthy is the growing social media nonsense that 'god' drove this win and the voice of the people won for Trump (despite the fact Trump didn't win public vote).
---If you think Trump won by "luck" or "chance", you're wrong. Donald Trump won because of prayer and because there are more Christians in this country than not. That says something and we need to continue to pray for our nation the way we have been and "America will be great again".--
So how does a system which helps elect a single person to be in charge of these "wildly different economies and other aspects" of individual states account for all those differences?
It doesn't, but it is fairer than the alternative.
Is that even a surprise? He was always going to be one of the front runners for SoS.NEWT FECKING GINGRICH
The economies and other key aspects of different states are so wildly different that the electoral college system is absolutely necessary. Obviously.
California, Texas and New York would be totally dictating the political landscape at the expense of just about everywhere else.
Because most votes don't represent all the states equally. Like someone said above, electing based on most votes is basically asking CA, NY and all who they want as president, completely neglecting the rural population. The country is divided into 50 states for a reason, it isn't a single group of people and all different states need to be heard, equally.The alternative, which elects the president who gets the most votes? Please explain why this is fairer? You did say it's obvious.
Is the electoral college any worse than FPTP?
Is that even a surprise? He was always going to be one of the front runners for SoS.
Easy to just say....
The alternative, which elects the president who gets the most votes? Please explain why this is fairer? You did say it's obvious.
Because it is obvious. America is too big a place for California, New York and Texas to be dictating the entire political landscape.
Because most votes don't represent all the states equally. Like someone said above, electing based on most votes is basically asking CA, NY and all who they want as president, completely neglecting the rural population. The country is divided into 50 states for a reason, it isn't a single group of people and all different states need to be heard, equally.
That is unconstitutional.The 600,000 people of Wyoming don't need to be heard equally as much as the 39,000,000 people of California.
Obviously they are different systems, but the criticism of it people are making at the moment as far as I can see is it is "undemocratic" because one candidate can win the "popular vote" but still lose overall, as happened here. But the same is true with FPTP: you can win more votes overall but still lose. Either that is acceptable or it isnt. Seems like the losing sides in both countries want to change to something more representative, for the same reasons.Do you mean in comparison to a parliamentary system like the UK? I think the equivalent system would be giving all the seats in, for example, Wales or London to one party, depending on who won a majority in that region overall, rather than assigning the seats one by one. You'd end up with a system even more focused on winning voters in swing regions.
That is unconstitutional.
How?That is unconstitutional.
How is giving bigger weightage to one state over another not unconstitutional?How?
If you did full PR, it potentially makes a strategy like "we will dump all our waste in Wyoming" more feasible. Is this fair?
No, they don't. States aren't people. The 600,000 people of Wyoming don't need to be heard equally as much as the 39,000,000 people of California.
No, it isn't and who cares if it is?
Because it's not. The constitution doesn't dictate how many electoral votes each state should have. To my knowledge anyway.How is giving bigger weightage to one state over another not unconstitutional?
I agree with your prediction. He's got the job now and he's not stupid. He let a bit too much of his private persona show at his rallies, and people liked that. But he'll be one who doesn't do what he said he'd do.Okay here is my prediction for the Trump presidency.
It will pretty much be like the Bush Jr. presidency. A bit worse maybe but not by much. He is not going to be the next Hitler but he will probably throw back a the little social progress that has been made over the last 8 years by a fair bit.
Trump won't keep too many of his promises of his campaign, he has never cared about what he said a few days ago so why should he start now? I'm pretty sure that whenever he is reminded that he promised his voters this and that but he currently is not keeping that promise, he will just answer "I never said that" and the press will leave it at that unchallenged like they have always done.
I agree with your prediction. He's got the job now and he's not stupid. He let a bit too much of his private persona show at his rallies, and people liked that. But he'll be one who doesn't do what he said he'd do.
What are the actual charges to those acusations? I get that the mysoginist chorus are because of the recording of him in a gathering with friends talking shit, and accusations of groping and kissing models. That I understand.He did more than enough to brand himself as that.
Well, they can support him. Unfortunately these idiots can have their say, as we live in a democracy. Did Trump accepted or acknowledged that?I never said anything about his other voters. I specifically referred to why the KKK was supporting him. They favored him because of what he was preaching.
What are the actual charges to those acusations? I get that the mysoginist chorus are because of the recording of him in a gathering with friends talking shit, and accusations of groping and kissing models. That I understand.
Why fascist? Why racist? Why bad businessman?
And don't say because he is, or look at his campaing. Give me some exacts, please.
So stupid that he has his own plane, a sane family, a multi billion $ business and.....spent half the money of his main rival to not only win the nomination of a major political party, but to win the Presidency of the free world!I'm not taking the piss but many who know him have said otherwise.
And his overall record in business certainly says otherwise!
So stupid that he has his own plane and spent half the money of his main rival to not only win the nomination of a major political party, but to win the Presidency of the free world!i
Riiiiiight