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langster said:
Yeah, just like the military jobs he's creating, or the factory jobs he's bringing back (well he's not, but nvm) and the infrastructure building jobs he's creating, how will he pay for it all? And especially how will he pay for it all If he cuts taxes like he says he will? And how will he avoid putting trillions more on the national debt you always love to mention? Not forgetting the actual cost of the wall as well.... Like Trump, I really don't think you have thought this through properly.
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His comment seemed more like a hint of sarcasm to me. I agree that he is supposedly going to magic all these jobs out of nowhere. It is nice thinking about not importing as much, but as you say the factories need to there to actually manufacture this products.
 
PedroMendez said:
The ACA is still a terrible law despite its good intentions. Lets start from the beginning: The US health system itself is completely dysfunctional (they pay more money for worse coverage), because it is the amalgamation of various different systems. A very simplistic way of looking at the US system is to say that it is a mix of the German, Swiss, Canadian and UK model with a mix of randomness added. Often it takes the worst aspects of each system. The result is something completely incoherent, that creates a shitload of problems. One (of many) issues is the problem with pre-existing conditions. It is a very real problem, that needs to be fixed. Still the ACA is extremely flawed.
First of all it tries to hide the costs of the health-care by putting the burden not on all tax-payers, but just on few sub-group of them (e.g. young, healthy people and some people, whose premiums are skyrocketing). There is no moral or functional argument for that; that is just down to politicians trying to hide the real cost of this legislation. This mechanism ("individual mandate") doesn't work very well. Too many healthy people refuse to sign up, which means that the costs don't balance out. That means that even more hidden government subsidies have to be paid.
Additionally the government has to define what health-care plans actually have to include, which opens up another can of worms.
But the real problem is that it creates strong market incentives to offer bad health-care for people in need. Insurance companies incur a loss with people, who have pre-existing conditions, but they have to cover them. So it is not surprising that they try to lower the cost by reducing the quality of the treatment for these people. If one company attracts too many people with (expansive) pre-existing condition, they'd go broke. So the ACA institutionalizes a vicious circle, that puts down-ward pressure on the quality of coverage for the most vulnerable people.
It also leads to insurance companies dropping out of this market, which leads to less competition. Many areas have already just one insurer left in this market. It goes without saying that this is not helpful at all.

tl,dr: The ACA tries to tackle a real problem, but it isn't a sustainable solution. It also doesn't address all the other major issues of the US-system. It is terribly crafted legislation. Obviously the Republicans have no solution to any of these things either. Historically they never had any real interest in health-care politics at all. Only once Obama made it "his thing", they started to cry foul, because they are partisan idiots. Any useful reform of the US health-care system needs to create coherence, not additional patch-work.
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I think we could have a better system if the government some how stops the never ending increase of healthcare, why a dentist in the same county charges 3-5 times more than other dentists for example? Then we need to open the market for medicine to lower the price (like from the canucks), stop subsiding anything that's not of US interest (the country not stockholders), don't give money to foreign countries that hate US, force the senators and congressmen to buy insurance like any independent individual does, that would be a good direction.
 
Now Congressman Mark Pocan (D-Wis), in an interview with me on SiriusXM Progress late last week, stated that the briefing was one of the reasons why he decided not to attend the inauguration. He also noted that in other democracies around the world, the election would be “redone” if the same activities took place that are reported in the CIA’s classified briefing.
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“Almost all of this will slowly come out as more investigations happen but I think there’s a part that really was at the core of what John Lewis was trying to say,”
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Pocan confirmed that the information to which he is referring is not the same information published in The New York Times last week, which reported on an FBI investigation of Trump campaign staffers having contact with Russian officials. It is information that has not yet been made public, he said.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mark-pocan-cia-docs_us_58864a54e4b096b4a2338991
 
Americano said:
Here's the best part. You stopped questioning if the wall will be built and now it's just a question of price. That's what a genius Trump is.

Mexico will pay for the wall. We hold all the cards and could destroy the Mexican economy if we wanted to. Their leaders have to talk tough to their people so as not to appear weak, but they, like everyone else who has taken on President Trump, will bend the knee.
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You seem to have misunderstood his question.

How will he make them pay?
 
DomesticTadpole said:
His comment seemed more like a hint of sarcasm to me. I agree that he is supposedly going to magic all these jobs out of nowhere. It is nice thinking about not importing as much, but as you say the factories need to there to actually manufacture this products.
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It's ok, I'm only teasing him, I don't expect him to reply, he rarely ever does when presented with facts or a coherent answer or opposition to his posts. He's one of the worst post and run Republicans on the forum.

Carolina Red said:
You seem to have misunderstood his question.

How will he make them pay?
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Dude, don't waste your time, and please don't feed the trolls. Please!
 
Ive been in New York past 36 hours...

Im Muslim and had extra security checks on every previous visit to the US. For the record, I had no issues entering country (I was a returning ESTA and was even able to get through immigration using a passport readable machine), so I was happily surprised, and it shows that there has been no immediate extra screening on Muslims.

Ive been with all sorts of people in my trip so far, cab driver, hotel, restaurant and shop staff, colleagues in my office: Ive not yet found one Trump voter and almost every single person 'apologised' on behalf of their country. I've been surprised at how unified everyone is: the current NYC mayor has done an axing job of already unifying all the citiy's people.

Likewise all anyone talks about is how anti-trump they are, there is a genuine hatred for him. Likewise, it feels like a burning platform and people seem keen to mobilise into effective dissent. Ive never known a country to be so publicly against its leader .... which is a amazing part of US freedom of speech culture.

Fascinating.
 
kps88 said:
That might have something to do with it...
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yes, I know. But I think the people of New York are ver smart and will engage with rest of country and convert hearts and minds ... thats been the main subject of conversation.
 
Neutral said:
BBC Breaking News ‏@BBCBreaking
Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto cancels trip to Washington for summit with Donald Trump
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Trump needs to understand that just as he has his mob behind him, other world leaders also have theirs; each with totally different demands and objectives. It's the mark of a real politician to find the common ground while not pissing off the folks you're representing. I told my wife last night if the Mexican President went ahead with that meeting it won't end well for him politically in Mexico.
 
sammsky1 said:
Ive been in New York past 36 hours...

Im Muslim and had extra security checks on every previous visit to the US. For the record, I had no issues entering country (I was a returning ESTA and was even able to get through immigration using a passport readable machine), so I was happily surprised, and it shows that there has been no immediate extra screening on Muslims.

Ive been with all sorts of people in my trip so far, cab driver, hotel, restaurant and shop staff, colleagues in my office: Ive not yet found one Trump voter and almost every single person 'apologised' on behalf of their country. I've been surprised at how unified everyone is: the current NYC mayor has done an axing job of already unifying all the citiy's people.

Likewise all anyone talks about is how anti-trump they are, there is a genuine hatred for him. Likewise, it feels like a burning platform and people seem keen to mobilise into effective dissent. Ive never known a country to be so publicly against its leader .... which is a amazing part of US freedom of speech culture.

Fascinating.
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You're not really going to be engaging with the proportion of the country that voted Trump. Most will swerve you if you are very obviously different looking (Muslim for you). Others may just outright lie too. I wouldn't read too much into it...
 
sammsky1 said:
yes, I know. But I think the people of New York are ver smart and will engage with rest of country and convert hearts and minds ... thats been the main subject of conversation.
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Head over to Staten Island! Will be different.
 
sammsky1 said:
Ive been in New York past 36 hours...

Im Muslim and had extra security checks on every previous visit to the US. For the record, I had no issues entering country (I was a returning ESTA and was even able to get through immigration using a passport readable machine), so I was happily surprised, and it shows that there has been no immediate extra screening on Muslims.

Ive been with all sorts of people in my trip so far, cab driver, hotel, restaurant and shop staff, colleagues in my office: Ive not yet found one Trump voter and almost every single person 'apologised' on behalf of their country. I've been surprised at how unified everyone is: the current NYC mayor has done an axing job of already unifying all the citiy's people.

Likewise all anyone talks about is how anti-trump they are, there is a genuine hatred for him. Likewise, it feels like a burning platform and people seem keen to mobilise into effective dissent. Ive never known a country to be so publicly against its leader .... which is a amazing part of US freedom of speech culture.

Fascinating.
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No, your post was fascinating! Thanks for posting, a great insight and it's refreshing to hear that at the moment. It's also nice to have some insight in to the mood in NYC at the moment, especially from a Muslims' perspective. It warms my heart to hear how well and politely you have been treated, as you should always be, but Trump and co are most definitely trying to put fear back in to people again. It angers me that they don't realise how their hateful rhetoric spreads through the population and how dangerous it is. I bet you wouldn't be so well treated in other states or parts of the country because not everywhere is as liberal and accepting as New York.
 
sammsky1 said:
Ive been in New York past 36 hours...

Im Muslim and had extra security checks on every previous visit to the US. For the record, I had no issues entering country (I was a returning ESTA and was even able to get through immigration using a passport readable machine), so I was happily surprised, and it shows that there has been no immediate extra screening on Muslims.

Ive been with all sorts of people in my trip so far, cab driver, hotel, restaurant and shop staff, colleagues in my office: Ive not yet found one Trump voter and almost every single person 'apologised' on behalf of their country. I've been surprised at how unified everyone is: the current NYC mayor has done an axing job of already unifying all the citiy's people.

Likewise all anyone talks about is how anti-trump they are, there is a genuine hatred for him. Likewise, it feels like a burning platform and people seem keen to mobilise into effective dissent. Ive never known a country to be so publicly against its leader .... which is a amazing part of US freedom of speech culture.

Fascinating.
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The irony about all this is that Trump himself is from New York.
 
barros said:
I think we could have a better system if the government some how stops the never ending increase of healthcare, why a dentist in the same county charges 3-5 times more than other dentists for example? Then we need to open the market for medicine to lower the price (like from the canucks), stop subsiding anything that's not of US interest (the country not stockholders), don't give money to foreign countries that hate US, force the senators and congressmen to buy insurance like any independent individual does, that would be a good direction.
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There would be multiple ways to improve the system depending on preferences. Either have to make the people more price conscious or move towards some universal health-care system, where the government drives a hard bargain to control costs. There are studies that show fairly well the the price of many health-services could drop significantly, when you have a functioning free market system, where the people are price conscious (that doesn't mean that the government doesn't subsidies people, who can't afford it). But I am a free market guy and aknowledge that there are different approaches that can work. One of the biggest and most obvious flaws of the US system is the way employees are insured. Anyway; nobody is going to touch that, because it is a poisoned chalice. Any substancial reform would piss off way too many people.
The GOP is going to make a bad situation worse. They are so incredibly dishonest about their approach, that it hurts. They try to have the cake and eat it by replacing the ACA with ACA-light: They try to maintain some of the access/subsidies for people with pre-existing conditions but want to get rid of all the parts that try to balance the costs of that (=individual mandate and all that follows). Obama didn't introduce all these flawed parts of the ACA, because its fun. His approach might not work, but there is a logic behind that and just ignoring all of it will make things even worse.
 
Il Prete Rosso said:
That's a good thing to be fair.
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Oh for sure.

My point was that he shouldn't base his assumptions about the current climate in NYC on the limited interactions he'll have with those people that are willing to freely interact with him when there's a significant portion of people that probably won't. It can give you a distorted picture...

All that aside, NYC would be one of the more progressive states overall.
 
RedTiger said:
Could this be a reason for the high number of resignations from the State department? Maybe they were privy to some of these findings and don't want to be associated with an illegitimate administration.
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Its possible.
 


:lol: :lol: :lol: HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAAAAAAA Shit, sorry, I thought Mexico was paying for it?

What a bunch of clowns.

Although the article isn't funny, it's really sad when you see what the Republican cnuts denied Obama money for :(
 
sammsky1 said:
Ive been in New York past 36 hours...

Im Muslim and had extra security checks on every previous visit to the US. For the record, I had no issues entering country (I was a returning ESTA and was even able to get through immigration using a passport readable machine), so I was happily surprised, and it shows that there has been no immediate extra screening on Muslims.

Ive been with all sorts of people in my trip so far, cab driver, hotel, restaurant and shop staff, colleagues in my office: Ive not yet found one Trump voter and almost every single person 'apologised' on behalf of their country. I've been surprised at how unified everyone is: the current NYC mayor has done an axing job of already unifying all the citiy's people.

Likewise all anyone talks about is how anti-trump they are, there is a genuine hatred for him. Likewise, it feels like a burning platform and people seem keen to mobilise into effective dissent. Ive never known a country to be so publicly against its leader .... which is a amazing part of US freedom of speech culture.

Fascinating.
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that gives me a comforting feeling mate, to know that he's as disliked there as on this forum gives me hope. A part of me did wonder whether the high number of anti-trumpers was more to do with you being in New York as opposed to say Oklahoma or Kentucky.
 
RedTiger said:
that gives me a comforting feeling mate, to know that he's as disliked there as on this forum gives me hope. A part of me did wonder whether the high number of anti-trumpers was more to do with you being in New York as opposed to say Oklahoma or Kentucky.
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Pretty much this.

Cities are democratic party hotbeds. Central US and the suburbs is replublican support.
 
Fergies Gum said:
It may not go much faster but can go a little faster.
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According to the article Air Force One Mysteries Solved, the top speed is 650 miles per hour (about 0.85 mach). Not wanting to pick nits, but I'd say that it depends. The VC-25s are 747-200Bs, which according to the 747 Wikipedia page, have a maximum speed of 594mph, Mach 0.84 at cruising altitude of 35,000 feet.

I stand corrected , fecking hate that Burley woman.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
The US's GDP growth under FDR didn't turn positive until 1935, the Depression started in 1929. You can't be serious to expect historically strong growth under Obama when he stepped into office with the 2nd most severe economic downturn in their history?

Christ on a bike.
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The period of negative growth was brief. By 2009 the American economy had recovered its upward momentum and grew consistently, if unspectacularly, for the rest of Obama's presidency. Ignoring the early dip, the growth rate was about 2.3%. This is still low growth in a period of economic recovery and in the wake of a near trillion dollar fiscal stimulus.

The EU and Japanese basket case economies are a poor comparison. Imo the US economy is better judged against its own historic, pre-globalization performance. The impact of the global market on manufacturing is not denied by anyone. The question is do the figures justify the assertion that the positives outweigh the negatives?
 
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