The constitution is only the second ammendment, and occasionally the first if someone gets banned from twitter.
And the fifth when their attorney tells them to.
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And the fifth when their attorney tells them to.
"I'm drowning but I can't help but think the life vest I kept taking off may have contributed to this in some way".
Seriously? Get this shit out of here. Did you ready the study, because I did. This was NOT a randomized trial. Patients given HCQ were also given corticosteroids (which HAVE been shown to provide therapeutic benefits) at twice the rate as those in the "control" groups. Surprise, surprise that the HCQ groups had twice the rate of success. Let me check my math..... X + Y + Cow = bullshit.
It is obvious that all the doctors and scientists on this forum will never match your Google Doctorate and we will always just be CNN journalists to you.
feck off Donald
Donald Trump calls for delay to 2020 US presidential election
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53597975
Donald Trump calls for delay to 2020 US presidential election
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53597975
I've read those studies. I have a background in Biomedical Sciences and am a doctor in one of the worst hit areas in the UK with covid. I've been treating covid patients. The notion that I and other doctors wouldn't be actively pushing for mass supply/prescription of a medication that would help us in fighting this virus is nonsense. I've read all the studies. Hydroxychloroquine for treatment of this thing in the way that is being pushed is not science-based medicine. We have concepts like numbers needed to treat and all sorts of statistical things that we apply when considering treatment from studies along with critical thinking. We've been doing this for years prior to covid, we do it in presentations, readings groups etc.
You've pointed to studies provided and said there are holes to be poked without mentioning what those holes are and just did some random pejorative about being CNN journalists.
Here is the issue with the henry ford study. It is not a randomised control trial which is higher up in evidence. We have evidence from RCTs that hydroxychloroquine is overhyped bullshit.
The central finding which proponents of the Henry Ford study emphasise was that death rates were 50% lower among patients in hospitals treated with hydroxychloroquine. What they forgot to add and which is critical is that not only was it not randomised, but patients who received hydroxychloroquine were also more likely to get steroids, which appear to help very sick patients with covid (e.g. what we know from the low-cost dexamethasone from the aforementioned recovery trial).
Trump's bullshit is having a knock-on effect in terms of research. HCQ isn't an effective treatment of covid and should not be recommended. Charlatans and those without much critical skills often do but groups that represent a wider group of scientists and doctors (e.g. the WHO, royal colleges), theres a reason they've said what they have regarding HCQ. Individual doctors might disagree but their reasoning has been debunked or isn't up to par. They want us to not look at RCTs but go for flawed observational studies. That is dangerous.
1 in 6 trials have been unfortunately focused on HCQ as a result of bullshit reasoning and the money and resources could have been much better used
https://www.statnews.com/2020/07/06...ization-dominate-the-study-of-covid-19-drugs/
And you know with absolute certainty the ONLY reason he's pushing HCQ is because his kids or a close friend has some serious stock in it.
We knew it was coming. Surprised he has called for a delay this early.
maybe he’s being “sarcastic”
I expect this rhetoric to pick up over the coming weeks from him & his friends. I doubt the election gets delayed, but he’ll absolutely contend the result if he loses.
Yeah this the clearest sign yet that he'll take the US from democracy to a banana republic.
Hardly. The drug is cheap, widely available and any company can make the drug. What Trump really wants from his gawking of HCQ is that he believes in his warped mind that if people BELIEVE that it works, then COVID19 would cease to be a problem...instantly. He believes that if everyone is taking the drug, it would solve the problem now and he won't have the virus to worry about..ever.
maybe he’s being “sarcastic”
I expect this rhetoric to pick up over the coming weeks from him & his friends. I doubt the election gets delayed, but he’ll absolutely contend the result if he loses.
Kids can go to school but you can't vote.
Greatest democracy on earth.
I think he's reaching desperation, even by his standards.
*Donald reaches for The Autocrat's Playbook, flicks absent-mindedly through the pages to a cola-and-ketchup-stained bookmark, sighs loudly, then hands it to Bill Barr to read it out loud to him while he scrolls through Twitter...
I just went to see how his supporters are reacting, and it seems to be 10%: 'This is terrible!' 10%: 'This is a setup to trick the Dems into saying they won't try and postpone when they realize they're going to lose!' and 80%: 'MOST EPIC TROLL EVAR!!'.
Why do you think that people should discard knowledge and expertise of medical and scientific professionals that amounts to cumulative decades of study and research, just so they can claim to be an 'independent thinker'. No amount of independent thinking by laypeople such as you or I can match the rigourous analysis that is represented in these studies. You are not somehow cleverer than them because you've got a mate who's taking it and says he's fine.
Have a read of this and see whether you think it's worth ignoring the studies and giving it a go: https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...oxychloroquine-even-without-covid-19-testing/
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It reached that place a long time ago
Yes...it’s not happening or worth worrying about. They will be (actually already are) up to other shenanigans however.
Herman Cain has died of coronavirus. He was pictured at a packed trump rally without a mask days before testing positive.
You know his agenda when he comes out with the cnn journalist bullshite. Just ignore him, you leave more intelligence in your dirty bathwater than this guy could ever dream of having. You get nowhere with people with an agenda.
Safe enough for you to go to work, safe enough to send your kids to school, but unsafe to vote
Going to be a very interesting few months leading up to this election. Once out of office Trump and a few of his republican comrades are quite likely to spend the rest of their lives fighting court battles to stay out of jail.
We know they will be employing a win at all cost sort of strategy and when I say "all cost" I really do wonder what they have in store...
We know they will be employing a win at all cost sort of strategy and when I say "all cost" I really do wonder what they have in store...
Oh wow, that's big.
I genuinely expect we will see Trump catching the first plane to Russia and living out his days there rather than face the prospect of expensive trials and possible jail time.
The denialist faction has been covid-shelled pretty hard over the past 24h. First, that Congressman who contracted and possibly spread it around his colleagues, now Cain and that co-founder of TPUSA claimed.
I wonder if we start seeing an impact on their inane behaviour patterns now...
Unlikely. Cognitive dissonance is a thing. Just look at said congressman, he is now claiming that the mask gave him COVID.
I’ve been saying it for awhile now... it’s amazing to me how they’re literally doing things that will kill off themselves and their supporters.
Trump never even knew him.
He is making an absolute mockery of the USA. An utter and total mockery.
Someone really needs to be feck him off at this point.
Yeah, but Survival Instinct is a thing, too. And it's rooted even deeper in our OS. So, at a certain point in time it'll overcome said dissonances. Question is, how much longer till that threshold is surpassed. That'll differ from individual to individual
Agreed, but the problem is, when your dear leader is a pathological narcissist who is incapable of admitting he is wrong it creates a feedback loop whose inertia it is hard to escape.
This dude is trying every which way to delegitimise an election he knows he's going to lose. He's setting the stage to make it as much of a clusterfeck as he can in order to try and invalidate the result.
Given the state of the US media, the insanity of his supporters and the eager acquiescence of the whole Republican party apparatus I'd say he has a decent chance.
Given the state of the US media, the insanity of his supporters and the eager acquiescence of the whole Republican party apparatus I'd say he has a decent chance.
Womp, womp.
I bet you could say "Breathing air is socialist" and overnight about half of Trump's supporters would start demanding that he privatise air and the other half would hold their breath until they passed out.
Exactly. He is not trying to actually get a delay; surely even Trump by now knows that's unachievable. The optimistic reading is that he is trying to set up an early excuse for his loss ('I was defrauded out of en obvious victory'); the pessimistic that he is riling up his base to rise up in case of a loss. I don't think he wants the latter though. There's no money in that for him and for all his bluster, he's actually pretty pacifist. (E.g., not retaliating against Iran for that drone and getting out of war zones.) I rather think this comment fits the 'I am not responsible at all' attitude.
Just read on Reddit that the election delay is him shooting himself in the foot again. The constitution already accounts for this and if an election is delayed the administration is still dissolved on 20th January and the Speaker of the house assumes the position.
Can't see Pelosi assuming the position for the Don, to be fair.
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