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In a world which rarely fails to makes excuses for male misbehaviour towards women, his 'religious' supporters would doubtless claim that he's changed now, and is truly repentant.

Some would for sure, but for some of those people especially on the evangelical wing abortion is the one giant red line. They literally believe that its murder, and that's something they won't ever forgive.
 
Some would for sure, but for some of those people especially on the evangelical wing abortion is the one giant red line. They literally believe that its murder, and that's something they won't ever forgive.

That would be true if Trump wasn't actually bigger than even their own 'religion'. These cultists will fondly utter Trump's name more times than Jesus on any given day including Sundays. Nah, this is not even news worthy.
 
Some would for sure, but for some of those people especially on the evangelical wing abortion is the one giant red line. They literally believe that its murder, and that's something they won't ever forgive.
A giant red line for everyone else but I get the feeling a lot of them would be through those doors double quick with their underage daughter or god forbid she was pregnant with a brown baby. There is absolutely nothing christian about these people.
 
That's why it's so beautiful, it is whatever you want to think it is.
Exactly. Each of his supporters will have made up some version of a crime in their heads and that's fine for them. As long as they don't have to think about the details they'll all be right simultaneously.
 
Exactly. Each of his supporters will have made up some version of a crime in their heads and that's fine for them. As long as they don't have to think about the details they'll all be right simultaneously.
The biggest scandal of Obamagate will turn out to be the media's censuring of what Obamagate is. Hence why nobody can find any information on it.
 
The best bit about Obamagate is what his administration is actually accused of doing, and how, erm, sensible it sounds. The actual timeline goes like this:

- The US intelligence community tells (then President) Obama that Russia did interfere with the election. In retaliation, he imposes sanctions on Russia
- Oddly, Russia don't retaliate or even respond to the sanctions - which they had always previously done
- The intelligence community agree this is weird, so 'unmask' the identity of an American who has been in frequent contact with the Russian ambassador
- That American happens to Michael Flynn, who has been telling the Russian ambassador not to worry about the sanctions, because Trump will reverse them once he's President

That's kind of it, in terms of what Obama's administration did. By the way, Michael Flynn subsequently:
- Got the job as lead of Trump's national security, despite Obama pointing out he might not be on the level
- Lied to Mike Pence about speaking to the Ambassador
- Got fired by Mike Pence and Donald Trump for lying once the FBI had proof he'd lied
- Lied to the FBI, under oath, twice, about having the call
- Also deliberately omitted that he was working for the Turkish government on the forms required for the above post, lied about that
- Plead guilty to the two above lies, both of which are federal crimes

But yeah, Obama's the bad guy here. The very fact people are even discussing this shows what an absolute joke we all are. Trump is standing up there, buck naked and insane, but he pointed to the corner of the room and said 'squirrel' and half the room are f*cking writing about what colour the squirrel is.
 
The best bit about Obamagate is what his administration is actually accused of doing, and how, erm, sensible it sounds. The actual timeline goes like this:

- The US intelligence community tells (then President) Obama that Russia did interfere with the election. In retaliation, he imposes sanctions on Russia
- Oddly, Russia don't retaliate or even respond to the sanctions - which they had always previously done
- The intelligence community agree this is weird, so 'unmask' the identity of an American who has been in frequent contact with the Russian ambassador
- That American happens to Michael Flynn, who has been telling the Russian ambassador not to worry about the sanctions, because Trump will reverse them once he's President

That's kind of it, in terms of what Obama's administration did. By the way, Michael Flynn subsequently:
- Got the job as lead of Trump's national security, despite Obama pointing out he might not be on the level
- Lied to Mike Pence about speaking to the Ambassador
- Got fired by Mike Pence and Donald Trump for lying once the FBI had proof he'd lied
- Lied to the FBI, under oath, twice, about having the call
- Also deliberately omitted that he was working for the Turkish government on the forms required for the above post, lied about that
- Plead guilty to the two above lies, both of which are federal crimes

But yeah, Obama's the bad guy here. The very fact people are even discussing this shows what an absolute joke we all are. Trump is standing up there, buck naked and insane, but he pointed to the corner of the room and said 'squirrel' and half the room are f*cking writing about what colour the squirrel is.
Typical of the media in this country. distraction, distraction.... let's not deal with the big issues like healthcare and inequality.
 
The best bit about Obamagate is what his administration is actually accused of doing, and how, erm, sensible it sounds. The actual timeline goes like this:

- The US intelligence community tells (then President) Obama that Russia did interfere with the election. In retaliation, he imposes sanctions on Russia
- Oddly, Russia don't retaliate or even respond to the sanctions - which they had always previously done
- The intelligence community agree this is weird, so 'unmask' the identity of an American who has been in frequent contact with the Russian ambassador
- That American happens to Michael Flynn, who has been telling the Russian ambassador not to worry about the sanctions, because Trump will reverse them once he's President

That's kind of it, in terms of what Obama's administration did. By the way, Michael Flynn subsequently:
- Got the job as lead of Trump's national security, despite Obama pointing out he might not be on the level
- Lied to Mike Pence about speaking to the Ambassador
- Got fired by Mike Pence and Donald Trump for lying once the FBI had proof he'd lied
- Lied to the FBI, under oath, twice, about having the call
- Also deliberately omitted that he was working for the Turkish government on the forms required for the above post, lied about that
- Plead guilty to the two above lies, both of which are federal crimes

But yeah, Obama's the bad guy here. The very fact people are even discussing this shows what an absolute joke we all are. Trump is standing up there, buck naked and insane, but he pointed to the corner of the room and said 'squirrel' and half the room are f*cking writing about what colour the squirrel is.
I agree and the sad thing is the timeline now looks like this to Trump supporters;

- The US intelligence community tells (then President) Obama that Russia did interfere with the election. In retaliation, he imposes sanctions on Russia
- Oddly, Russia don't retaliate or even respond to the sanctions - which they had always previously done
- The intelligence community agree this is weird, so 'unmask' the identity of an American who has been in frequent contact with the Russian ambassador
- That American happens to Michael Flynn, who has been telling the Russian ambassador not to worry about the sanctions, because Trump will reverse them once he's President

That's kind of it, in terms of what Obama's administration did. By the way, Michael Flynn subsequently:
- Got the job as lead of Trump's national security, despite Obama pointing out he might not be on the level
- Lied to Mike Pence about speaking to the Ambassador
- Got fired by Mike Pence and Donald Trump for lying once the FBI had proof he'd lied
- Lied to the FBI, under oath, twice, about having the call
- Also deliberately omitted that he was working for the Turkish government on the forms required for the above post, lied about that
- Plead guilty to the two above lies, both of which are federal crimes

- WITCHHUNT
- Flynn proven not guilty
- Obama set the whole thing up
 
I agree and the sad thing is the timeline now looks like this to Trump supporters;

- The US intelligence community tells (then President) Obama that Russia did interfere with the election. In retaliation, he imposes sanctions on Russia
- Oddly, Russia don't retaliate or even respond to the sanctions - which they had always previously done
- The intelligence community agree this is weird, so 'unmask' the identity of an American who has been in frequent contact with the Russian ambassador
- That American happens to Michael Flynn, who has been telling the Russian ambassador not to worry about the sanctions, because Trump will reverse them once he's President

That's kind of it, in terms of what Obama's administration did. By the way, Michael Flynn subsequently:
- Got the job as lead of Trump's national security, despite Obama pointing out he might not be on the level
- Lied to Mike Pence about speaking to the Ambassador
- Got fired by Mike Pence and Donald Trump for lying once the FBI had proof he'd lied
- Lied to the FBI, under oath, twice, about having the call
- Also deliberately omitted that he was working for the Turkish government on the forms required for the above post, lied about that
- Plead guilty to the two above lies, both of which are federal crimes

- WITCHHUNT
- Flynn proven not guilty
- Obama set the whole thing up
Oh totally yeah, plus the unasked question of....why?
 
The best bit about Obamagate is what his administration is actually accused of doing, and how, erm, sensible it sounds. The actual timeline goes like this:

- The US intelligence community tells (then President) Obama that Russia did interfere with the election. In retaliation, he imposes sanctions on Russia
- Oddly, Russia don't retaliate or even respond to the sanctions - which they had always previously done
- The intelligence community agree this is weird, so 'unmask' the identity of an American who has been in frequent contact with the Russian ambassador
- That American happens to Michael Flynn, who has been telling the Russian ambassador not to worry about the sanctions, because Trump will reverse them once he's President

That's kind of it, in terms of what Obama's administration did. By the way, Michael Flynn subsequently:
- Got the job as lead of Trump's national security, despite Obama pointing out he might not be on the level
- Lied to Mike Pence about speaking to the Ambassador
- Got fired by Mike Pence and Donald Trump for lying once the FBI had proof he'd lied
- Lied to the FBI, under oath, twice, about having the call
- Also deliberately omitted that he was working for the Turkish government on the forms required for the above post, lied about that
- Plead guilty to the two above lies, both of which are federal crimes

But yeah, Obama's the bad guy here. The very fact people are even discussing this shows what an absolute joke we all are. Trump is standing up there, buck naked and insane, but he pointed to the corner of the room and said 'squirrel' and half the room are f*cking writing about what colour the squirrel is.

I don't like Trump and wish he was gone but this is a lot of nonsense and is exactly why Trump can say these things.
There is absolutely nothing to prove or have any evidence that the Russians interfered in the election. Zilch.
There are plenty of reasons why Trump should not be given a second term but inventing reasons is not the way to do it. He has done more than enough to show that he is not fit and never was fit for any public office let alone the president of the USA.
 
I think that Kayleigh McEnany is probably one of the most smuggest Press Secretaries I've seen in a long time. I didn't think I could dislike anyone as much as Huckers but dear Lord, this new one is really taking it to the next level. It won't be long before she comes unstuck in the WH perpetual web of lies and deceit. She is pretty obnoxious though and just a perfect fit for the Trump administration.
 
I don't like Trump and wish he was gone but this is a lot of nonsense and is exactly why Trump can say these things.
There is absolutely nothing to prove or have any evidence that the Russians interfered in the election. Zilch.
There are plenty of reasons why Trump should not be given a second term but inventing reasons is not the way to do it. He has done more than enough to show that he is not fit and never was fit for any public office let alone the president of the USA.

Err, there is literally mountains of evidence proving the Russians interfered in the election. The only question mark was whether Trump directly conspired with them, which Mueller said he didn’t find evidence of.
 
I don't like Trump and wish he was gone but this is a lot of nonsense and is exactly why Trump can say these things.
There is absolutely nothing to prove or have any evidence that the Russians interfered in the election. Zilch.
There are plenty of reasons why Trump should not be given a second term but inventing reasons is not the way to do it. He has done more than enough to show that he is not fit and never was fit for any public office let alone the president of the USA.
From your posts I can't tell if you're on a wind up, but the United States intelligence services, and the United States senate both concluded categorically, with huge amounts of evidence that Russia did, interfere with the election.

Your opening statement is so at odds with reality I'm not even sure. I mean, just go and do a tiny bit of research. It was never in question. Except for one man, of course. There are mountains of evidence. There are first hand accounts of people who worked for the Russian government. Even the GOP-led Senate concluded it.
 
From your posts I can't tell if you're on a wind up, but the United States intelligence services, and the United States senate both concluded categorically, with huge amounts of evidence that Russia did, interfere with the election.

Your opening statement is so at odds with reality I'm not even sure. I mean, just go and do a tiny bit of research. It was never in question. Except for one man, of course. There are mountains of evidence. There are first hand accounts of people who worked for the Russian government. Even the GOP-led Senate concluded it.

Agree with this also if you look at the Trump and Kushner episodes of 'Dirty Funds' on Netflix then it becomes even more clear that both were already beholden in some way to Russia before Trump ever made the Whit House because of the failures they have had in the business world. Russians connected to Putin has already bailed out their bad decisions before Trump was President. I'm not a business man but I have to imagine that when you bail someone out it isn't just from the goodness of your heart. The potential for leverage was there before they had gained the position they have now.
 
From your posts I can't tell if you're on a wind up, but the United States intelligence services, and the United States senate both concluded categorically, with huge amounts of evidence that Russia did, interfere with the election.

Your opening statement is so at odds with reality I'm not even sure. I mean, just go and do a tiny bit of research. It was never in question. Except for one man, of course. There are mountains of evidence. There are first hand accounts of people who worked for the Russian government. Even the GOP-led Senate concluded it.

What evidence did they have the Russians interfered in the election? Exactly how? Please don't tell me about the hacked emails or the DNC server of the FB propaganda.
Because at the Senate hearing none of these came out as facts. I mean the Clinton emails and the DNC server " hacking". In fact none of them could under oath say it was hacked from outside. It was simply conjecture when they had to testify under oath.
As for the intelligence service, aren't they the same people who said that Iraq had WMDs and it's a slam dunk?
 
What evidence did they have the Russians interfered in the election? Exactly how? Please don't tell me about the hacked emails or the DNC server of the FB propaganda.
Because at the Senate hearing none of these came out as facts. I mean the Clinton emails and the DNC server " hacking". In fact none of them could under oath say it was hacked from outside. It was simply conjecture when they had to testify under oath.
As for the intelligence service, aren't they the same people who said that Iraq had WMDs and it's a slam dunk?

I believe in pee tape, i honestly believe putin has some dirt on trump, some under the table funding, some weird classified dirt on political opponent (kgb gathered) or some sort.

But actual hacking the election? Data tampering? Actually voting for trump? Man that's too far fetced. The american IT can't be that dumb they let russia hacker hacked their system and upped the numbers just like that.

Right?
 
What evidence did they have the Russians interfered in the election? Exactly how? Please don't tell me about the hacked emails or the DNC server of the FB propaganda.
Because at the Senate hearing none of these came out as facts. I mean the Clinton emails and the DNC server " hacking". In fact none of them could under oath say it was hacked from outside. It was simply conjecture when they had to testify under oath.
As for the intelligence service, aren't they the same people who said that Iraq had WMDs and it's a slam dunk?
I mean I don’t know if you want to go through the reports published by The US Senate Select Committee on Intelligence yourself, but everything you’re looking for is there. If you don’t want to go by a three year Republican led but ultimately bipartisan investigation then fine, you do you.

https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume1.pdf


https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume2.pdf
 
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