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You Are confusing poverty with inequality. I can understand both sides (poverty in India and poverty in US)

While in India there are parts poorer, is not the same for an individual to be poor among 1.000.000 (or more) in a city without virtually middle class and a few super riches than another in north america with 10.000 poor (or less), a solid middle class some rich and a few super riches (x5 times compared)

The first situation is acceptable because lots of them are like you, so is what it is. The second is fecked up, because despite being less poor (and relatively the same) than poor people in India, you feel invisible and compare constantly with a lot of people that are better off than you
 





Wow! Harley Davidson not enough he has to now go after GM. He just does not get it at all and it would be like trying to explain algebra to a 3 year old. In his mind GE and other companies should just stay in the USA and employ US Citizens and then they will prosper like never before. His ignorance of global trade and the shift in manafacturing costs etc is astounding and ever present in his rants and inane trade wars that are now slowly starting to really bite and take hold of the areas where he took votes from the Dems. Ohio farmers and Detroit car factory workers won't take kindly to his attacks as they will know he failed to keep his promises.

Worse still, with his total destruction of green energy alternatives, he will have also taken away possible jobs and careers for many of them too.
 
In fairness, he's long been renowned as the champion of blue collar workers.

Pfft...
 
Pogue Mahone said:
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They missed the bit where he championed fossil fuels as the way forward.

Fml. I just can't do this anymore. My 12 year old son has more intelligence, knowledge, empathy and character than this feckwit. It's not even funny any more.

Someone needs to take this fecker down before he causes any more irreparable damage. Before he was President he was just a ranting lunatic but his Presidency has given him legitimacy now and many poor and desperate and impressionable people (as well as nasty feckwits) listen to and believe what he says.

He needs to be publically destroyed.
 
'Very high revels of interrigens'
 
Eboue said:


:lol: this guy is such a hack
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See I'd find stuff like this more convincing if it wasn't for the fact that Dems have...err, been consistently losing elections until the other week. Hardly as if Schumer's tactics are paying off.
 
langster said:


But the Vets love him......
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Not the under 40 ones I talked to. What that article doesn't mention is what this "to delay and shape a plan to overhaul digital health records at the VA" really means. What it means is a tonne of GI benefits have been delayed which has caused a lot of problems with people expecting to get checks they were promised by the government and now they are getting stiffed because of this Trump BS.
 
Eboue said:
I have contempt for rich people.
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What an oddity this statement is. Is the accumulation of individual wealth, or personal success some form of ethical or cultural travesty? If we are talking about the perpetuation of classist America, and cultural inequality, through inherited wealth; then I share the sentiment. But if we are talking about a general contempt for individuals who achieve economic success through any combination of hard work, perseverance, and ingenuity; then I have to label this is as bitterness.

There are a plethora of well off people who make enormous contributions to both domestic and international social causes, primarily because they have the resources to do so. Poor people are not morally superior, simply by virtue of being poor.
 
4bars said:
You Are confusing poverty with inequality. I can understand both sides (poverty in India and poverty in US)

While in India there are parts poorer, is not the same for an individual to be poor among 1.000.000 (or more) in a city without virtually middle class and a few super riches than another in north america with 10.000 poor (or less), a solid middle class some rich and a few super riches (x5 times compared)

The first situation is acceptable because lots of them are like you, so is what it is. The second is fecked up, because despite being less poor (and relatively the same) than poor people in India, you feel invisible and compare constantly with a lot of people that are better off than you
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This is a very good point, and I feel like this ties in with what @Eboue says about poverty in America being dehumanizing. Sure everywhere in the world has poor people, hell I live in a 3rd world country and I see it all the time.

What America does is constantly remind you of it. If you’re sick but poor, tough luck, healthcare is for the rich. You’re one bad move away from homelessness? It’s your own fault. Everything in that country is set up to favor rich people, and if it wasn’t bad enough that the system is set up against those at the bottom, you constantly get a generous helping of “the only reason you aren’t rich too is because you aren’t working hard enough”. I can’t even imagine what it must be like to live in a country like that. Like you said, if you aren’t rich in America, you’re pretty much invisible, and you constantly get reminded of how much better others around you are doing.

One of the “America is the best” guys summed it up fairly well, in America there is no upper limit to what you can achieve, but at the same time, there is no bottom to how low you can spiral in that country, and that just isn’t right to me.
 
Very high levels of intelligence indeed. I suspect that Trump is simply so amazingly intelligent that the IQ points floating around in his head prevent him from forming coherent sentences. New ideas, and ground breaking insights are fighting constantly to exit his mouth making it a monumental task to have it all get out in an orderly fashion. I think in 1000 years we will look back at Trump as the pioneer in the next step of human evolution. Of course, the fake news media will try to make him look bad, but we know better. JEALOUS!

Really, I just can't anymore with this clown. Anyone still voting for Trump in the next election should have a dunce cap welded on to their skulls.
 
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I'd bet everything I own that this man has an IQ of under 60. Even if this is an attempt to talk around the question like every other politician does it's still so fecking stupid that only a certified moron could come up with it.

- Why are you sceptical of climate change Mr.President?
- Well I'm super intelligent and since there's a lot of garbage in the oceans, and they are very big oceans, I went to Wharton btw, it's very obvious that the planet is not getting warmer. There's also dirty air in some countries but we have very clean air, the best air, and since there's movement in the atmosphere it's obvious to me and all the other smarties that if you look at the articles you can see that human beings have no impact on the climate.
 
Adisa said:
A month away. Looks like Congress want to take action sooner than that.
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Hmm true, they’re voting on whether to keep supplying the Saudis with weapons to maim more children soon aren’t they. No wonder the White House blocked her talking.
 
simonhch said:
What an oddity this statement is. Is the accumulation of individual wealth, or personal success some form of ethical or cultural travesty? If we are talking about the perpetuation of classist America, and cultural inequality, through inherited wealth; then I share the sentiment. But if we are talking about a general contempt for individuals who achieve economic success through any combination of hard work, perseverance, and ingenuity; then I have to label this is as bitterness.

There are a plethora of well off people who make enormous contributions to both domestic and international social causes, primarily because they have the resources to do so. Poor people are not morally superior, simply by virtue of being poor.
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I frankly do not care what you label it. Hoarding wealth while others suffer for lack of basic necessities is immoral.
 
Kristjan said:
That's possibly the most incoherent thing I have ever read.
Mind boogling.
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He's had loads of rambling nonsense quotes like that. This is one of my favourites:

I got a bad hand with all these horrible trade deals. NAFTA is a disaster. Canada. You know Canada, nice guy, nice guy. Prime minister. Justin. I said, ‘Justin, what’s your problem, Justin?’ (Laughter) So, Canada. O Canada. I love their national anthem. O Canada. I like ours better, however. (Huge Cheers) So. No, Canada’s great, I love Canada. We had a wonderful understanding, you know that story. We hugged. We kissed. Everybody was happy. I made some changes in this ridiculous thing that everyone agreed to sign. I left, everybody was happy. I get on to Air Force One – he doesn’t understand that Air Force One has 22 televisions. They have televisions in closets, they have televisions in areas that no place have them. Unlimited budget, Air Force One, uh? (Cheers) So I get on the plane and I see Justin Trudeau … saying ‘Canada will not be bullied by the United States. I say, ‘What are we doing here?’ The fact is that Canada has a 275% tariff on dairy products, a little thing called dairy products. (Boos). Their lumber is a disaster. With us, I say, ‘Why aren’t we using our own lumber?’ Because now we’re actually allowed to take lumber from our fields and regrow it under our environmental system. In the old days you couldn’t do that. We had to go to other countries. So, lumber is a disaster. Energy is a disaster. And I see Justin saying: ‘We fought World War One together. We fought World War Two together.’ That’s true. We love Canada. But Canada’s charging almost 300% on tariffs on dairy products and many other things. It’s all working out great. It’s allllll working out great. And I said, ‘Look, if you want to do that, we’re going to put a little tariff on your cars.’ You know cars are the biggee. Cars are the biggee. (Extended rant about European Union trade barriers on U.S. automobiles) I want to be able to sell cars in there just as they sell cars in here. It’s all going to work out. It’s all going to work out. The fact is, we were given somewhat of a bad hand because we came in with all these problems. But I’m loving what we’re doing. You people are loving what we’re doing. (Huge Cheers).
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Rado_N said:
He's had loads of rambling nonsense quotes like that. This is one of my favourites:
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I will never tire of posting this.

Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.
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