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What the feck? Yet again how the feck does he keep getting away with it all? It's insane!
It's nothing you wouldn't expect. Everything from the "he's not racist, his daughter is a converted Jew!" to "well, they have to put their support behind someone, don't they?" to "he's just an older person, it's not the same" and of course, plenty of whataboutism with regards to Obama and Hillary. The only silver lining is that lately they don't seem to have anything left to say. Kavanaugh got those types very riled up but Trump's only moving further and further into the red meat territory. I think they can all see the writing on the wall with him and it won't be long before he's abandoned for a saner, less overtly racist option.
SA being a sacred cow goes beyond Trump. I can't see any of the past Presidents taking a tougher stance either sadly.
I have always thought that if someone always talks about a certain thing he is scared of it.
How is it that SA have all these politicians by their balls?
What the feck is Surefire Intelligence?
Sometimes organizations or words like these just pop into the conversation and everything somehow knows what they are
Their website looks dodgy as feck though. Random anonymous boardroom full of people in suits background. Screams con artists to me.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2018/10/30/comically-flawed-attempt-smear-robert-mueller-explained/
Enjoy.
When you consider that a very deep and thorough investigation concluded that the Saudi’s were behind 9/11, arguably modern america’s worst ever day, less than 2 decades ago with the loved ones of the victims still very much alive and mourning and the resulting war triggered by it still ongoing with American soldiers still fighting and dying on a daily basis...
...yet here we are, the same party that was in power during those events is in power again and carrying out some of the shadiest and scummiest of their dirty work.
I’m not a 9/11 conspiracy theorist so I don’t think it’s been one long line of collusion and inner jobs. I do however think it’s an absolutely horrendous insult to the victims of that day.
By all means build bridges and repair relations with countries who have wronged you in the past but to carry out heinious acts as favours to them is just shameless.
Dunno...but it’s worrying, very worrying imo.
I can't believe a country would be so beholden to a regime that turned a blind eye to terrorists that killed thousands of its citizens.
I can. For them, it's all about money.
I can't imagine previous admins putting pressure on agencies to extradite a dissident.
Which report is this?
This. Arms, oil, real estate, economics, power.
I imagine he means the 2002 congressional joint enquiry with its redacted 28 pages ( released in 2016) that said there was a possibility of a connection to the hijackers and the Saudi Royal family and that there was a possibility that the Saudi Government was helping fund Al Qaeda but that it was all speculative.
Right, from what I remember it was all very inconclusive and in any case didn't implicate any Saudi of major importance, though I could be wrong on that.
Sucking on some big sweaty Saudi balls.
It did implicate high level Saudi officials in the USA to aiding and giving financial support to the hijackers including the Washington embassy and the LA consulate. There was various things implicating Saudi Agents and the Saudi Government but any connection to the Saudi royal family was speculative.
I wouldn't be surprised if a segment of the royal family was funding AQ. It was suggested in a Bin Laden documentary that a Saudi prince was fox hunting with Bin Laden in the late 90s but the CIA was not permitted to drop a bomb due to potential diplomatic backlash that would have unfolded had the US killed a prince. However, that may well have been a disgruntled CIA member stating such; or may have been Scheuer and he's a nutjob.
CIA was not after OBL before 9/11. I think only the FBI was interested. And extrajudicial killings were not the hype back then.
Incorrect. Bin Laden Issue Station was established in 1996, codenamed Alec Station, by the CIA to track AQ, OBL, and others.
What about kill orders though ?
feck if I know, though the CIA has likely operated outside the rules of the US over the years and likely having killed plenty since its creation.
What else do you want to argue over?
Ah right. I wasn't aware there were embassies/consulates implicated.
From what I recall it was an Emirati prince? Not 100% sure.
The CIA and FBI were both after bin Laden well before 9/11, but had different ideas about how best to go about stopping Al Qaeda, and some personal animosity between their main guys which may have played a role in allowing space for the 9/11 operation to go ahead undetected.
Perhaps so. I'd have to sort through various videos of Bin Laden/CIA stuff to find it. Was an interesting bit though may have been a former agent taking a pop shot at Clinton. Can't recall if it as Clarke, or Scheuer, or Shaffer, or someone else stating during the documentary.
Pretty sure it was Scheuer. He wanted to just bomb the shit out of every suspected training camp regardless of who was there.
The feck ?
Bush absolutely would have and I think Obama with HRC as Sec of State would have done something similar.
They’re holding hands! 
What the feck is Surefire Intelligence?
Sometimes organizations or words like these just pop into the conversation and everything somehow knows what they are
Their website looks dodgy as feck though. Random anonymous boardroom full of people in suits background. Screams con artists to me.
Mate you've missed some lolz some pages back (or maybe it's in the Russia Investigating thread).
You'll see on linked in that one of their four employees is none other than (a picture of) Christopher Waltz... Seems that he took his Blofield role too seriously.
Just like you respected McCain, right?
I'm glad he took the time to memorise some of the speech that he didn't write.
So unnatural and doesn't believe a word of it. Orange cnut.
Good find, @2cents. Scheuer has gone complete nutjob in the past years so does make me pause if that kill request/rejection occurred even if that was claimed years ago.
Just fecking with ya, @The Firestarter.
Just fecking with ya, @The Firestarter.
He was absolutely right about that. This was a McConnell bill which Obama gave warning over how it could be used against the United States. McConnell pushed back against that warning, got his party to vote to over rule Obama’s veto and then almost immediately afterwards, realised their mistake and blamed Obama for not being firm enough in his concerns.
He must have some good ghost writers in the WH
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