The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated

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Why "Rock Star" is "racist"?

Obama was smart and eloquent, but an ineffective president who did very little to nothing for the majority of voters. The only good thing was Obamacare. Beyond that, he basically helped the Wall Street billionaires, not the 90%. He did great for himself and right after the end of his presidency he went on vacation with Branson.

Disillusionment with Obama and his empty slogans ("yes we can"... we can what?) is one of the main reasons that we got such a terrible president as Trump. Trump is the worst president ever. However, there are reasons why we got here, and Obama (and the Clintons) are parts of the problem.

'Rock Star' is a code phrase for an entertainer. That is the best black people can be to Republicans.

So where have you been during his presidency?
He took an economy in deep recession. The worst since the 30s. And saved the motor industry. The bailout helped the banks. Sure. But it saved the economy.
Only Obamacare? :lol:

yeah sure. The same Obamacare the idiotic GOP tried to repeal numerous times and for which they are going to pay for tomorrow.
Because people love Obamacare..the first step to single payer.

Trump was Clinton and the DNCs fault And the fault of the GOP feilding shitty candidates.

the rest of the garbage you posted is FOX BS.
 
So where have you been during his presidency?
You might want to ask yourself the same question

He took an economy in deep recession. The worst since the 30s. And saved the motor industry. The bailout helped the banks. Sure. But it saved the economy.



Obama took office during the foreclosure crisis, in which some nine million people lost their homes. His response to the crisis characterized his presidency’s failure to hold corporate interests accountable and redistribute wealth to low- and middle-income people.

Faced with the opportunity to lead a strong governmental response to the crisis, the Obama administration bailed out the banks and allowed mortgage companies to correct their own failings; not a single mortgage executive was held accountable. Meanwhile, Obama failed to invest sufficiently in mortgage relief and encouraged banks to foreclose on homeowners instead of modifying loans or reducing balances.

This wave of foreclosures helped create “the renter nation,” in which low-income households of color have been not only again denied the opportunity to build wealth through homeownership but also subjected to the whims of corporate landlords.

While the foreclosure crisis and the accompanying displacement and dispossession were not caused by Obama, neither did his administration take effective action to punish the actors who caused it, provide relief and stability to those affected, or address the racial disparities that the crisis enhanced. Millions continue to struggle, even as the economy and housing market “recover.”
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/01/barack-obama-presidency-trump-inauguration
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Only Obamacare? :lol:

yeah sure. The same Obamacare the idiotic GOP tried to repeal numerous times and for which they are going to pay for tomorrow.
Because people love Obamacare..the first step to single payer.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2017/01/barack-obama-presidency-trump-inauguration
Yet those who trumpet such gains while scratching their heads at the law’s relative unpopularity are missing the crux of the problem: despite President Obama’s reforms, the health-care system continues to fail much of the nation.

One example: in Canada, physicians and hospitals are free when you use them. In the United States, co-payments and deductibles for such care (which average $7,474 for a family marketplace silver plan) often rations medical care by economic status. Studies have shown that those with inadequate insurance avoid going to the EReven when they need it, delay care when in the throes of a heart attack, and face financial strain and sometimes bankruptcy when sickness strikes. Such injustices preceded the ACA, but because the law failed to fix them, it is blamed — fairly or unfairly — for their persistence.

More recently, Obama signed the 21st Century Cures Act into law, which among other things incrementally reduced the rigor of the Food and Drug Administration’s drug approval process. These provisions were tantamount to a generous handout to the pharmaceutical industry, which had lobbied heavily for the bill. Not surprisingly, it also did precisely nothing about sky-high drug costs.

This is a decidedly mixed legacy. The gains of the ACA are evident: indeed, for some of those who gained coverage, it was lifesaving. Its shortcomings, however, are equally evident: some twenty-eight million uninsured, persistently high cost-sharing, inequalities in access, uncontrolled drug prices, and so forth.

But yeah fox news.
 
Trump in blackface non-shock:

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Do you think they'd clap if I grabbed her by the pussy.
 


Obama did not fulfill many of his expectations.

But he was a far better candidate than McCain...And Romney.

He could have done a lot more. A public Option for example.

Obamacare is far from perfect. But it was a good start.

I note you have a unrealistic view of wanting to have the perfect solution via a perfect candidate.
Reality. It is gradual.

Yeah. A nation like the US does not need an army.

Get real little boy.
 
Even in places that arguably benefit from having US military presence like South Korea or Japan, it’s quite unpopular.

Maybe the Trump is right, we don’t deserve American awesomeness.
I can why, which is worse death by drone or daily interactions with US soldiers - It's the drones

 
Even in places that arguably benefit from having US military presence like South Korea or Japan, it’s quite unpopular.

Maybe the Trump is right, we don’t deserve American awesomeness.

It may be unpopular with them.

But the US always has and will always have a military that cannot be challenged.

As I have said, the responsibility lies with electing representatives that hold themselves accountable to Americans.

In spite of the mess we have now I still have faith in the institutions to overcome those who have been complicit with dragging down this country.
 
It may be unpopular with them.

But the US always has and will always have a military that cannot be challenged.

As I have said, the responsibility lies with electing representatives that hold themselves accountable to Americans.

In spite of the mess we have now I still have faith in the institutions to overcome those who have been complicit with dragging down this country.
You don’t see anything wrong with a 600bn a year military that is the equivalent of 27 countries next on the list combined?

Maybe, just maybe, less military worship would be better for the psyche of the American populace or the world as a whole. Better still, mutual disarmament with American leadership. Sending weapons into hotbeds and propping up banana republics haven’t yielded the desired result, time to try something different.
 
You don’t see anything wrong with a 600bn a year military that is the equivalent of 27 countries next on the list combined?

Maybe, just maybe, less military worship would be better for the psyche of the American populace or the world as a whole. Better still, mutual disarmament with American leadership. Sending weapons into hotbeds and propping up banana republics haven’t yielded the desired result, time to try something different.

I'm not defending everything the US has done.

Unilateral disarmament is not realistic.
 
I'm not defending everything the US has done.

Unilateral disarmament is not realistic.
Except I said mutual.

A willingness on the part of the US to reduce military spending and getting rid of their nuclear stockpile in unison with other entities like Russia, the UK, China, India, Pakistan would significantly reduce the global existential threat we have been under for the last 70 years. Only the interest of the ‘corporatists’ you so despise prevent that from being a reality, so why not work to change it instead of stating categorically that ‘thus is the case and it shall forever remain so’?
 
Guardian said:
Trump again has appeared to make false claims about his rally crowds. In Indiana, he boasted of “thousands and thousands of people” outside who could not get in. But reporters following Trump said they did not see people waiting to get inside.
 
Except I said mutual.

A willingness on the part of the US to reduce military spending and getting rid of their nuclear stockpile in unison with other entities like Russia, the UK, China, India, Pakistan would significantly reduce the global existential threat we have been under for the last 70 years. Only the interest of the ‘corporatists’ you so despise prevent that from being a reality, so why not work to change it instead of stating categorically that ‘thus is the case and it shall forever remain so’?

Heck. How far have we come with mutually disarming nukes?
The problem when dealing with Russia and China is that the American president is elected. He or she faces numerous obstacles.

completely unrealistic.

All the US can do is ensure it has the best Air Force and armaments In Case.
 
Come on mate, look at the two accounts ffs. Didn't the "women who come to my rallies are really FAT" give it away?
Yeah, the correct spelling made it an obvious fake. ;)
 
Heck. How far have we come with mutually disarming nukes?
The problem when dealing with Russia and China is that the American president is elected. He or she faces numerous obstacles.

completely unrealistic.

All the US can do is ensure it has the best Air Force and armaments In Case.
Russia and China would rather deal with American money than American nukes.

Remember the Cuban Missile Crisis? Big bad Soviets, oh wait it’s the Americans who placed warheads in Turkey first.

Majority of NATO members don’t want to increase their military spending and have to be cajoled by the US. Divert that effort instead to make everyone spend less.

It’s an industry, and there are many people and special interest groups who stand to lose from disarmament, as is the case with healthcare. Doesn’t mean it’s not the right thing to try rectifying that, or are you saying that we shouldn’t push for single payer given that healthcare is 1/6 of the US economy?
 
Russia and China would rather deal with American money than American nukes.

And? Do we unilaterally disarm?

Do you think Congress will happily agree? All we can hope for is a responsible president to agreements to not escalate and step down over time. Has been done before.


Remember the Cuban Missile Crisis? Big bad Soviets, oh wait it’s the Americans who placed warheads in Turkey first.

Turkey as part of Nato were entitled to have Missiles.


Majority of NATO members don’t want to increase their military spending and have to be cajoled by the US. Divert that effort instead to make everyone spend less.
I don't disagree.With the right adminstration why not?



It’s an industry, and there are many people and special interest groups who stand to lose from disarmament, as is the case with healthcare. Doesn’t mean it’s not the right thing to try rectifying that, or are you saying that we shouldn’t push for single payer given that healthcare is 1/6 of the US economy?

and I'm not arguing about this. people on both sides take money from these and other industries. We need to change it.

Single payer is needed and wanted by all people. A minority don't understand is all. Misinformation.
 
Cool article about LBJ warning us about this type of presidency.

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/11/05/op...ion-zelizer/index.html?r=https://www.cnn.com/

"I can think of nothing more dangerous, more divisive, or more self-destructive than the effort to prey on what is called 'white backlash.' I thought it was a mistake to pump this issue up in the 1964 campaign, and I do not think it served the purpose of those who did. I think it is dangerous because it threatens to vest power in the hands of second-rate men whose only qualification is their ability to pander to other men's fears. I think it divides this nation at a very critical time -- and therefore it weakens us as a united country."
 
'You have to VOTE Republican TOMORROW! Or I'm in the shit...'
 
But the US always has and will always have a military that cannot be challenged.

Come on man, this is very silly. In the 5000 or so years of humanity forming civilizations, the US has been unchallenged for roughly 27 years.

Oh and any serious look at the world seems to show this will end in the next 20 years at the latest as an extremely rich and vast country with more than 4 times the US population industrializes and grows its middle class. In the meantime the US is drowning in debt, politically divided straight down the middle, and all but one of their allies now mistrust them.
 
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