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Raoul said:
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The worst thing we could do is take him seriously. The moment we pay 2% he'll start moaning about something else, the moment we buy gas from the US he'll use that to press something else out of us. I hope German politicians just ignore him in the fashion the general public has become numb to his daily babble.
 
Adisa said:
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‘Fake EClipse. I don’t even need to look at it because We have the best eclipses. A lot of people don’t know that, but Frederick DouglasS and, well, you might’ve seen the last one. They say that it was the best ever.... ...and I was in office, of course.’
 
Now being reported Kavanaugh had outstanding debt which he had built up over the past decade, but he conveniently paid it all off in 2017.
 
Kavanaugh apparently said that a president should be totally immune to prosecution for any crime(s).
 
SteveJ said:
Kavanaugh apparently said that a president should be totally immune to prosecution for any crime(s).
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Apparently being the key word. He actually said something along the lines of "during extreme circumstances, e.g. war, a sitting president should not be prevented from performing his role. So he should not be put in front of a grand jury as a sitting president. The rationale being that either or both scenarios may lead to a bad decision; in his defence on one hand and/or a bad decision in a war strategy that impacts the country. He then went on to say that the president should be pursued post presidency.
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
Apparently being the key word. He actually said something along the lines of "during extreme circumstances, e.g. war, a sitting president should not be prevented from performing his role. So he should not be put in front of a grand jury as a sitting president. The rationale being that either or both scenarios may lead to a bad decision; in his defence on one hand and/or a bad decision in a war strategy that impacts the country. He then went on to say that the president should be pursued post presidency.
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No, apparently is not the key word; total immunity is.

His argument was that the president these days has many weighty responsibilities — wars, economic crises, the threat of terrorist attacks — and shouldn’t be encumbered by criminal investigations or charges, or civil lawsuits, while in office.

“I believe that the President should be excused from some of the burdens of ordinary citizenship while serving in office,” Kavanaugh wrote in 2009, three years after Bush appointed him to the D.C. Circuit. “This is not something I necessarily thought in the 1980s or 1990s. Like many Americans at that time, I believed that the President should be required to shoulder the same obligations that we all carry. But in retrospect, that seems a mistake.”
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Kavanaugh makes other recommendations in the 2009 article, arguing that the president should have more authority over some independent agencies; that “the Senate should consider a rule ensuring that every judicial nominee receives a vote by the Senate within 180 days of being nominated by the President”; that the president should defer to Congress on some issues involving war, and that it’s worth considering a switch to a single, six-year term for presidents instead of a four-year term with the possibility of reelection.

But the top recommendation is for Congress to pass legislation that defers civil lawsuits and criminal charges and investigations until after the president leaves office. Kavanaugh wrote that this would require an extension of the statute of limitations, to ensure the president can face any pending legal proceedings after leaving office.

If the president did something “dastardly” during his term, there’s always impeachment, Kavanaugh added.
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In an earlier article published in the Georgetown Law Journal in 1998, Kavanaugh wrote, “The Constitution itself seems to dictate, in addition, that congressional investigation must take place in lieu of criminal investigation when the President is the subject of investigation, and that criminal prosecution can occur only after the President has left office.” In the same article, Kavanaugh wrote later on, “Whether the Constitution allows indictment of a sitting President is debatable.” (Emphasis his.)
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[...]the Court in Jones stated that Congress is free to provide a temporary deferral of civil suits while the President is in office. Congress may be wise to do so, just as it has done for certain members of the military. Deferral would allow the President to focus on the vital duties he was elected to perform.

“Congress should consider doing the same, moreover, with respect to criminal investigations and prosecutions of the President. In particular, Congress might consider a law exempting a President — while in office — from criminal prosecution and investigation, including from questioning by criminal prosecutors or defense counsel. Criminal investigations targeted at or revolving around a President are inevitably politicized by both their supporters and critics. As I have written before, ‘no Attorney General or special counsel will have the necessary credibility to avoid the inevitable charges that he is politically motivated — whether in favor of the President or against him, depending on the individual leading the investigation and its results.’ The indictment and trial of a sitting President, moreover, would cripple the federal government, rendering it unable to function with credibility in either the international or domestic arenas. Such an outcome would ill serve the public interest, especially in times of financial or national security crisis.”
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I don't see anything about extreme circumstances, and will note that the US has been at war for the last 17 years and will be for the next few decades too.
 
Doubt most European NATO countries could vastly increase their defence spending.
Maybe because they’re busy paying for healthcare, subsidized or free higher ed. and other social services that the US doesn’t care enough to pay for.
 
He’s keeping an eye out for baby Trump.
 
Massive Spanner said:
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Can someone explain why he's saying this, or where from? Is there a summit on right now or is he just talking bollocks as per usual?
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There’s a summit on right now. He’s been acting billy big bollox since he arrived, saying he was going to get other countries to up their NATO contributions, then set up his own press conference to say that they had all conceded to his demands, then fecked off 30 minutes later. Nobody else has commented yet. He’s probably bullshitting. It’s what he does.

Apparently all the genuinely important stuff NATO members were supposed to discuss had to be cancelled, while they all had to listen to his bluster about money instead. He’s such an infuriating arsehole.
 
Bullshitter in chief. "Upped spending to levels never seen". I hate him so much.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
There’s a summit on right now. He’s been acting billy big bollox since he arrived, saying he was going to get other countries to up their NATO contributions, then set up his own press conference to say that they had all conceded to his demands, then fecked off 30 minutes later. Nobody else has commented yet. He’s probably bullshitting. It’s what he does.

Apparently all the genuinely important stuff NATO members were supposed to discuss had to be cancelled, while they all had to listen to his bluster about money instead. He’s such an infuriating arsehole.
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Didn't even bother about the meeting on Afghanistan. He's a cnut.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
There’s a summit on right now. He’s been acting billy big bollox since he arrived, saying he was going to get other countries to up their NATO contributions, then set up his own press conference to say that they had all conceded to his demands, then fecked off 30 minutes later. Nobody else has commented yet. He’s probably bullshitting. It’s what he does.

Apparently all the genuinely important stuff NATO members were supposed to discuss had to be cancelled, while they all had to listen to his bluster about money instead. He’s such an infuriating arsehole.
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Macron apparently just finished a press conference where he said that there was no agreement for NATO states to increase their spending.
 
Adisa said:
He did.
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Doesn’t matter, Trump has already said it which means he’ll keep saying it for the new few weeks until it’s one of the great achievements his cult followers keep repeating.
 
Adisa said:
He did.
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On MSNBC, Joe and Mika kept cutting into Trump’s presser every time he told a lie. They would cut in over Trump’s voice and discuss his lie and the truth. I think they had to cut in five different times.

It was very effective, countering Trump’s lies à la minute as opposed to trying to unpack all of them after the press conference was over.
 
Trump Strategy

1 - Create an injustice out of thin air
2 - Disregard any evidence to the contrary
3 - Repeat injustice and how you’re going to solve it
4 - Wait a few days
5 - Claim to have solved it
6 - Disregard any evidence to the contrary
7 - Repeat claim that you’ve fixed everything
8 - Celebrate
9 - Beg Melania for a celebratory blowy
10 - Give up and go watch Fox and Friends whilst cry-wanking into an Ivanka Trump branded sock.
 
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