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All these “hypocrisy” accusastions end up cutting both ways though.

If the left argue that a cake shop owner must put aside their own feelings and bake a cake for any customer, irrespective of their sexual preferences, wouldn’t they be hypocrites if they didn’t also urge restaurants to continue to serve Sarah Sanders despite her political preferences?

Any discussion about stuff like this ends up as tit for tat nonsense, with both sides convinced that it’s the other guy who’s being the hypocrite.
I would agree. If you open a business you lose the right to discriminate.

It's the whole "freedom until it happens to me" thing I can't abide.
 
I would agree. If you open a business you lose the right to discriminate.

It's the whole "freedom until it happens to me" thing I can't abide.
I understand this point, but on the other hand isn't part of the free market that it's your shop and your choice who you do and do not want to serve?

If you're working for the government or as a doctor, for which you have to make an oath to help people, it's a different story. But if you own a restaurant or a bakery you can serve whomever you want at your leisure imo.

Not advocating people denying service on any grounds, but it should be their choice by law.
 
All these “hypocrisy” accusastions end up cutting both ways though.

If the left argue that a cake shop owner must put aside their own feelings and bake a cake for any customer, irrespective of their sexual preferences, wouldn’t they be hypocrites if they didn’t also urge restaurants to continue to serve Sarah Sanders despite her political preferences?

Any discussion about stuff like this ends up as tit for tat nonsense, with both sides convinced that it’s the other guy who’s being the hypocrite.


We can all agree that the fat cow needs to skip more meals though.
 
One is being denied service, because she's a bad person. The other one is being denied service because they were born gay.

Big difference imo.
But that is not what happened, hence the original person's point. The gay couple have been served in the cake shop before, so they are nbot being denied service because they are gay. It was the particular service that was denied, which is different.

I am torn on this one. As a business owner I believe I have the right to deny service to anyobe I choose, within the law. I also choose not to provide certain services. Many establishments have signs saying exactly that, they have the right to deny. However, as a business person, I would not want to make a decision that would damage my business. Think the restaurant owner made a bad business call, not an illegal call. Be very hard to prove she has denied service to all republicans. This is pretty much a petty action which does not deserve the air time it is getting, but both sides will use it for point scoring.
 
I was sure someone was going to fall for my white text this time.

My quest continues :(
 
It's as terrible as everyone thinks. Such a limited vocabulary. He'd be in the mid-range of students taking that exam, i.e. there are 14 year olds from all over the world who easily eclipse him.
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To be fair, isn't the GCSE taken at 16? You know, girls at an age he'd like to date.
 
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To be fair, isn't the GCSE taken at 16? You know, girls at an age he'd like to date.

No idea, I'm not in the UK. I get the impression from that writing exam that that was the age of the student taking that exam from what they write in it, 14/15. I do the IGCSE version of it which that exam is in as far as I know.
 
It's as terrible as everyone thinks. Such a limited vocabulary. He'd be in the mid-range of students taking that exam, i.e. there are 14 year olds from all over the world who easily eclipse him.


Maybe but he has the ability to stand in front of huge crowds and hold their attention. That is a very difficult skill for a simpleton so he deserves praise. Mind you, he could just hold up something shiny and a lot of his crowds would be rapt.
 
Maybe but he has the ability to stand in front of huge crowds and hold their attention. That is a very difficult skill for a simpleton so he deserves praise. Mind you, he could just hold up something shiny and a lot of his crowds would be rapt.

I teach presentation skills too, but I haven't watched enough of his rallies to judge them. I suppose I could say things he does well are pauses, variation in tone, body language etc.
 
Maybe but he has the ability to stand in front of huge crowds and hold their attention. That is a very difficult skill for a simpleton so he deserves praise. Mind you, he could just hold up something shiny and a lot of his crowds would be rapt.
I tried to listen to one of his rallies back in 2016 and couldn't do it for more than 15 min or so. :(
 
An interesting observation on Trump's chances of re-election.



Personally I don't think he has anywhere near enough potential voters to carry him into office again without some earth-shattering change of course on his part.
 
An interesting observation on Trump's chances of re-election.


Personally I don't think he has anywhere near enough potential voters to carry him into office again without some earth-shattering change of course on his part.

Depends entirely on the independents. There is no evidence they've abandoned him.
 
One is being denied service, because she's a bad person. The other one is being denied service because they were born gay.

Big difference imo.


Nice person is subjective though don't you think? We may both think she's a bad person but then many others may feel shes amazing. A religeous nut could argue that being gay is not a nice person while we think they are normal people like everyone else.So just like how you have layed it out here, the opposition can say :

One is being denied service because they are living in sin and that doesnt adhere to their values. The other is being denied service because they were grown up loving conservative values and adhering to law and order.



*** please be aware that im only playing devil's advocate and these are not my actual views. I am aitheist and think religeous views can be a poison on a modern society and also believe no one should be denied service due to their sexual orientation , gender, race , faith or politics.***
 
I may be wrong but to me, it sounds like he thinks Crowley is a Republican?
He lost to someone who hated him more.

No hes well aware that Crowley is a democrat. He's also well aware that the person elected was a Left wing socialist who would have him impeached. He just cant help but linking everything to himself. Its just that simple
 
The voice and his stupid circle game hand gesture make my brain hemorrhage.

Likewise. My wife has stopped running into the room when she hears me screaming feckING HELL at the ceiling because she's learned I'm probably just watching a Trump performance. He gets me demented.
 
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