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Trump has been banging on about Canada having a better deal than the US does as a trading partner (they don't) and implying that Canada is ripping the US off (they aren't), and these claims have been going on for days/weeks now.

I imagine that Trudeau and Canadians are genuinely confused at this behaviour.

Now Trump is acting like a massive victim. Mean Justin said some bad things....! When in fact Trudeau's remarks were tame given what he's been putting up with from Trump recently.

Trump is clearly playing at something bigger. Trump and his policy team are scheming. I just wonder what their end game is with the Canada situation. It has to be more than just optics (a few token trading concessions).
 
Twisted_Woody said:
Do you really think he cares? The events of the past two years read like a playbook out of that 90's book on how to advance Russian influence in the world - foundations of geopolitics. Here is a wiki summary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

I think Trump is just doing whatever his master's are telling him to do. I don't think he is in charge here.
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More than that as they never expected to have this much influence in Washington DC. Truly frightening.
 









His latest stunt at the G7 was carefully planned all along. Now being followed by these Tweets (that are obviously complete shite) but the trouble is I can see how his dumbass supporters will lap them up.

All those U.S.A changing egotists and those who genuinely feel not only persecuted but that the US actually IS the most important, biggest and best country in the whole universe will be lapping his bullshit up all the way to the voting booths.
 
The other G7 countries should just target Trump states that depend on trade with them like moving out factories to blue states that otherwise resides in red states as a well deserved reward for acting like ass holes. The G6 countries can also focus on more trading between them selves and divert economic attention away from the U.S.A.
 
Trump does seem to have worked on his hand shaking technique. It actually looks somewhat normal now.
 
Trump likes strongmen and the East is full of them. He'd much rather have been in Shanghai than La Malbie. If he can wangle an offer of some sort from the SCO in exchange for isolating Europe then he'd be well up for taking it. He might be able to leverage US interference in the South China Sea and the Korean peninsula in order to get that. That would certainly be a big stick capable of scaring the rest of his erstwhile allies into some sort of capitulation - especially if he threatens NATO.

US is so big and inhabits such a unique geographic position that playing East against west might appear an entirely feasible strategy and it doesn't seem to me that it would be entirely against China and Russia's interests to play along.
 
Am I wrong to think this is blatant Russia-influence, plus electioneering to his base?

Surely at some point, because of how little he cares, he'll let slip that he wants his good friend Vlad back in G8 because he helped him win the election. He's too lazy to maintain any subterfuge.
 
Red Viking said:
The other G7 countries should just target Trump states that depend on trade with them like moving out factories to blue states that otherwise resides in red states as a well deserved reward for acting like ass holes. The G6 countries can also focus on more trading between them selves and divert economic attention away from the U.S.A.
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Yes, someone should punish those states for giving the world the orange buffoon president.
 
Cal? said:
I thought the president does have power to declare war, but not to change the election process?
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Congress declares war.

Can the President send folks into combat for a period of time before asking for Congressional support? Yes. For 60 days.

But it’s not gonna happen.
 
Carolina Red said:
Congress declares war.

Can the President send folks into combat for a period of time before asking for Congressional support? Yes. For 60 days.

But it’s not gonna happen.
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That part we can agree on. Just saying the influx of liberals from the annexation of Canada could be the best thing to happen to the world. ;)
 
Just realized I'm the same age as Kim Jong Un... wierd.

Really interested to see what the outcome of their talks will be.
 
langster said:
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Just to comment on this.

US represents 49% of NATO's GDP.

In terms of direct funding the US contributes just over 22% of the NATO civil and military budgets.

In terms of indirect funding the US represents 72% of the organisations military capability.

On the military capacity bit I remember an electioneering Trump banging on about the ravaged state of the US armed services and promising to increase it bigly. Dude wants an overwhelming military superiority and it has long been the military policy of the US to massively outspend any rival.


https://www.nato.int/cps/ie/natohq/topics_67655.htm
 
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His latest stunt at the G7 was carefully planned all along. Now being followed by these Tweets (that are obviously complete shite) but the trouble is I can see how his dumbass supporters will lap them up.

All those U.S.A changing egotists and those who genuinely feel not only persecuted but that the US actually IS the most important, biggest and best country in the whole universe will be lapping his bullshit up all the way to the voting booths.
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He doesn't understand that american products are not that good so the EU put big tariffs on them.
 
Will Absolute said:
A big question is whether Trump fully understands the difference between business relationships, where cash is the only currency, and the more multifaceted relations between nation states. At least he won't make the mistake of his predecessor and think making eloquent speeches is what it's all about.
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You're missing an hugely important factor here. The vast difference between Obama and Trump is that world leaders trusted Obama.
 
Will Absolute said:
The problem is that the entire media have been so viciously hostile to Trump since his election that nothing they say can be taken at face value. You know that only half or three quarters of a story will be told in a way that shows him in the worst possible light. That's not paranoia. The joke of a few months back is literally true: "If Trump walked across the Hudson, the headline in the New York Times would be: "Trump can't swim!"

Obviously Trump is a person of highly questionable character. But a media whose obsession is to bring him down by whatever means possible have given themselves a credibility problem.
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You were clearly sleeping between 2008 and 2017.
#FoxNews #Obama
 
Il Prete Rosso said:
You're missing an hugely important factor here. The vast difference between Obama and Trump is that world leaders trusted Obama.
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You’re wasting your time on two accounts.

Firstly, you won’t get an honest reply from the cretin.

Secondly, he’s banned.




On to Trump’s latest attack on NATO:

Firstly, he’s doing Russia’s bidding and weakening NATO.

Secondly, the Republicans will play along because he’s effectively tightening the belt and making cuts that will help their ridiculous deficit.


Sadly, what his base don’t understand is that firstly, the tariffs will hurt them as they won’t be able to afford the currently cheaper and better quality imported products.

With regards to NATO, the US is currently investing in a safer world for them to live in.
 
Ekkie Thump said:
Just to comment on this.

US represents 49% of NATO's GDP.

In terms of direct funding the US contributes just over 22% of the NATO civil and military budgets.

In terms of indirect funding the US represents 72% of the organisations military capability.

On the military capacity bit I remember an electioneering Trump banging on about the ravaged state of the US armed services and promising to increase it bigly. Dude wants an overwhelming military superiority and it has long been the military policy of the US to massively outspend any rival.


https://www.nato.int/cps/ie/natohq/topics_67655.htm
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To comment further on this, it needs highlighting that the 4% figure quoted by Trump has feck all to do with NATO. This figure is what the US spends on their own military for their own interests, because they want an airbase in every country around the world and have a military 3 times stronger than anyone else... The 2% figure always quoted is a NATO target 'guidline', not a requirement, of what each member should spend on their own military budgets.

Most people I speak to seem to think these percentage numbers thrown around in the news are direct payments to NATO, because of people with an agenda like Trump trying to push their bullshit.

Actual direct payments to NATO amount to very little in the scheme of things.
 
Simbo said:
To comment further on this, it needs highlighting that the 4% figure quoted by Trump has feck all to do with NATO. This figure is what the US spends on their own military for their own interests, because they want an airbase in every country around the world and have a military 3 times stronger than anyone else... The 2% figure always quoted is a NATO target 'guidline', not a requirement, of what each member should spend on their own military budgets.

Most people I speak to seem to think these percentage numbers thrown around in the news are direct payments to NATO, because of people with an agenda like Trump trying to push their bullshit.

Actual direct payments to NATO amount to very little in the scheme of things.
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It's amazing how a POTUS can spout all this nonsense and pure bullshit false figure about key statistic on an official G7 summit and receives no repercutions.

Obama would get crucified for a spelling error
 
Sky1981 said:
It's amazing how a POTUS can spout all this nonsense and pure bullshit false figure about key statistic on an official G7 summit and receives no repercutions.

Obama would get crucified for a spelling error
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I worked it out, in terms of direct NATO funding: The US pays 0.0016% of its GDP, UK pays 0.0065%, Germany pays 0.0055%.
 
Red Viking said:
The other G7 countries should just target Trump states that depend on trade with them like moving out factories to blue states that otherwise resides in red states as a well deserved reward for acting like ass holes. The G6 countries can also focus on more trading between them selves and divert economic attention away from the U.S.A.
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The European Union has announced intentions to raise duties on red-state products like peanut butter, Harleys, and bourbon. (Announcing the measures, European Commission president Jean-Claude Juncker said, “We can also do stupid. We also have to be this stupid.”) China is also threatening retaliation; soybean farmers fear they may be targets.
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We have some recent experience with steel tariffs, the ones imposed by George W. Bush in March 2002. Bush lifted them in December 2003, under threat of retaliation by the EU, with another politically well-selected set of targets (Florida oranges, and Harleys again), and complaints by domestic steel users.
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https://www.thenation.com/article/heres-why-labor-should-resist-trumps-tariff/
 
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https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...the-trump-doctrine-were-america-bitch/562511/
 


After having to wait 8 months for Congress to move his nomination, Grennell has within the span of 6 weeks managed to run afoul of the Germans.
 
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