The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated

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Carolina Red said:
One of the responses...
"you surprised your dying wife in the hospital with divorce papers too."
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as surprised as this?

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MarceloFalcon said:
Nada... at this point we're relying on the Russians not having the ability/resources to.
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I'm not overly worried about Putin, but a lot about Xi. China clearly have the resources to invade the Senkakus and if Trump ignores the Treaty between the US & Japan, that would throw the entire world order since WWII into chaos.
 
At the very least, we're being led by an unqualified man-boy who doesn't grasp even the most basic tenets of governance.

At worst, we're headed down an extraordinarily dark road where the things that make America America simply cease to exist. A president who won on a campaign of anti-immigrant furor, who believes in casting aside freedom like litter, who craves constant validation and can't abide criticism or satire – that's a tyrant in the making.
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http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-shaping-up-to-be-an-american-tragedy-w454640
 
Silva said:
http://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-shaping-up-to-be-an-american-tragedy-w454640
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Some will say its hyperbolic, but I generally agree. James Fallows, who's written some very interesting articles for The Atlantic, expresses similar in this latest: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/01/despair-and-hope-in-the-age-of-trump/508799/

And now we have Donald Trump. We have small-town inland America—the culture I think of myself as being from—being credited or blamed for making a man like this the 45th in a sequence that includes Washington, Lincoln, and FDR. I view Trump’s election as the most grievous blow that the American idea has suffered in my lifetime. The Kennedy and King assassinations and the 9/11 attacks were crimes and tragedies. The wars in Vietnam and Iraq were disastrous mistakes. But the country recovered. For a democratic process to elevate a man expressing total disregard for democratic norms and institutions is worse. The American republic is based on rules but has always depended for its survival on norms—standards of behavior, conduct toward fellow citizens and especially critics and opponents that is decent beyond what the letter of the law dictates. Trump disdains them all. The American leaders I revere are sure enough of themselves to be modest, strong enough to entertain self-doubt. When I think of Republican Party civic virtues, I think of Eisenhower. But voters, or enough of them, have chosen Trump.
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So what could be shaping up - a de facto Pence administration working closely with Ryan, Trump doing some embezzling whilst continuing on his rallies, pushing for the odd flagship policy (wall, general anti-muslim stuff, Carrier-like propaganda deals), taking most of the heat from the opposition and press.
 
Ubik said:



So what could be shaping up - a de facto Pence administration working closely with Ryan, Trump doing some embezzling whilst continuing on his rallies, pushing for the odd flagship policy (wall, general anti-muslim stuff, Carrier-like propaganda deals), taking most of the heat from the opposition and press.
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It begs the question...what was the fecking point?:lol:
 
Ubik said:



So what could be shaping up - a de facto Pence administration working closely with Ryan, Trump doing some embezzling whilst continuing on his rallies, pushing for the odd flagship policy (wall, general anti-muslim stuff, Carrier-like propaganda deals), taking most of the heat from the opposition and press.
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The more time that passes the more I start to admire the man. I'll be honest with you guys, I'm a procrastinator par excellence, hard work gives me allergies. The great cheeto is going to spend the next 4 years making even more money than he's ever made before with some industrial level contacts to boot, he's not going to do any actual work and he'll also end up with one of the best pensions available.

Top marks.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
'President of the United States of America'.

'Time Magazine Man of the Year'.
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But why fecking bother?:lol:

I'm beginning to think at this rate he'll get to January and say, "Nah, you know, not sure I'm up for this one, lads."
 
MarceloFalcon said:
Err... will this one just tweet from the official POTUS account that the show is on tonigh at 8ET/5PT?
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They do a whole lot of nothing and take loads of credit. Remaining executive producer is brand protection; afterall he's not going to be president forever (that should cheer you up a bit).
 
Cheesy said:
But why fecking bother?:lol:

I'm beginning to think at this rate he'll get to January and say, "Nah, you know, not sure I'm up for this one, lads."
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He is a narcissist. POTUS is the biggest title you can get. He was 'honoured' to be TMOTY even though it was in the same context that Hitler was awarded the title, TIME made that pretty clear as well.
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
Vanity. Money.
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Yup, hard to know which of the two is a bigger motivating factor for him.

Some people are saying he needs the money to keep his businesses afloat. Don't know if it's true, but some people are saying it.
 
BREAKING: President-elect Trump picks Goldman Sachs president & COO Gary Cohn to be National Economic Council Director
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:lol:

GS sure knows how to place them.
 
Neutral said:
Oh no...Killary gave speeches at Goldman Sachs. Donald is anti-establishment and he'll drain the swamp. It won't be business as usual and we'll ALL win

:lol:
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Evergreen tweet

 
I tend to assume that tweet meant that 'big business'/'corporate America' was winning either way, which is sort of true.

It's bloody unhelpful, and plays in to the false equivalence thing that many of us blame in part for the result, but still... sort of true.
 
One thing we often forget in all our moral outrage about stuff like that is that you want the best and brightest in such roles, and where do you find the best and brightest? Yes exactly, at Goldman, Citibank, Merril Lynch, Morgan Stanley etc.

These guys didn't exactly stumble into the upper echelon of investment banking by accident.
 
SwansonsTache said:
One thing we often forget in all our moral outrage about stuff like that is that you want the best and brightest in such roles, and where do you find the best and brightest? Yes exactly, at Goldman, Citibank, Merril Lynch, Morgan Stanley etc.

These guys didn't exactly stumble into the upper echelon of investment banking by accident.
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That is a very fair point. Yes. Although some of them will have reached that level because of who they are and who they know they're still very capable.
 
Paz is obviously on the shortlist somewhere.
 
The worst and dimmest were presumably at Northern Rock, RBS and Lehman Bros. I think part of the issue is the selling point of Trump's that he would root for the ordinary guy. Those he has chosen are not exaclty from the caring professions, are they ?
 
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Pogue Mahone said:
Hehe. It's a real shame that essentially well intentioned people like him and Assange ended up being pawns used by terrible people to gain power.
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For him personally it makes zero difference whether Trump or Clinton came to power though. Even Bernie wasn't unreserved in his stance on Snowden.
 
SwansonsTache said:
One thing we often forget in all our moral outrage about stuff like that is that you want the best and brightest in such roles, and where do you find the best and brightest? Yes exactly, at Goldman, Citibank, Merril Lynch, Morgan Stanley etc.

These guys didn't exactly stumble into the upper echelon of investment banking by accident.
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Not Citi... :devil:

But in seriousness, although there's large intersections, there are still fundamental differences in what I'd call business, finance and economics. And while and education and successful career in any of them will educate an individual on the other two, there remains specialization. So in my mind, even though this has been done many times before, bankers are not an obvious choice when in comes to SecTreas. The profile of a Summers, as an academic with a long history of hands-on engagement with public policy, is what I'd ideally look for.
 
So Kellyanne Conway as confirmed that Trump will continue with Apprentice in his spare time. Why not. Just adds to the reality show that is America.
 
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