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"If Trump sells out, it's not our fault"
Sounds like the big cop out is coming. FFS.
Sounds like the big cop out is coming. FFS.
For fecks sake!
I saw 3 pages since I last visited and thought something epic had happened since I was away. I was imagining all sorts of stuff, the moron stepping down, or a catfight between Kellyanne and Hillary maybe, but no! I see it was a complete fruit loop who tried to disrupt the norm with poetry and flowery writing before running off in to the sunset like a crazed loon.
Anyway, I'm actually shocked that Palin has come out and criticised the Moron elect, and not only that, but it seems she is right too. FML! Never thought I would be saying that, but hey ho! And on top of that, Coulter is now in full bullshit and damage control mode.
"If Trump sells out it's not our fault"
Says the woman who wrote a fecking book about him being the 2nd coming of Christ! I hope she's slaughtered for this. For eternity.
I saw 3 pages since I last visited and thought something epic had happened since I was away. I was imagining all sorts of stuff, the moron stepping down, or a catfight between Kellyanne and Hillary maybe, but no! I see it was a complete fruit loop who tried to disrupt the norm with poetry and flowery writing before running off in to the sunset like a crazed loon.
Anyway, I'm actually shocked that Palin has come out and criticised the Moron elect, and not only that, but it seems she is right too. FML! Never thought I would be saying that, but hey ho! And on top of that, Coulter is now in full bullshit and damage control mode.
"If Trump sells out it's not our fault"
Says the woman who wrote a fecking book about him being the 2nd coming of Christ! I hope she's slaughtered for this. For eternity.
It's interesting and makes plenty of fair points, but at the same time I have concerns some of this edges close to apologist rhetoric: for in as much as the centre-left has undoubtedly failed in recent years, they shouldn't have the blame pinned onto them for the actions of Trump and those who support him exclusively. For all of Clinton's ills she still won the popular vote: the only reason she's not President is because of a ridiculous college system.
I'll happily agree though that a lot more needs to be done to address the needs of swathes of voters who've been left behind. Problem is...how do you match a guy who comes in and promises you everything when he intends on delivering none of it? If a politician comes in and promises to give people back jobs that don't exist, or won't exist soon, then it's hard to match that even though what he's saying fundamentally can't happen.
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fecking morons who thought a businessman elite was going to get rid of big money figures.
It's the economy, stupid. That's what I'd say to this author and many others.
People are searching for solutions to their economic problems for over 10 years now. They tried the "normal" solutions, but they failed. "Yes, we can". Well ... what did Obama achieved exactly? Almost nothing.
Since the "normal" solutions have failed, now people are trying the "abnormal".
fecking morons who thought a businessman elite was going to get rid of big money figures.
She was talking about the 'tremendous, YUGE wall' that 'Mexico is going to pay for'. The tweet she replied to was a Drumpfkin losing it over Pence and Ryan's vagueness on immigration.
She's said in the past that the Cheeto Jesus can flip flop on everything and anything, except the wall, and still keep her support
@Billy Blaggs nothing useful in those tweets. Just the usual drivel you expect from Ann Coulter.
She was talking about the 'tremendous, YUGE wall' that 'Mexico is going to pay for'. The tweet she replied to was a Drumpfkin losing it over Pence and Ryan's vagueness on immigration.
She's said in the past that the Cheeto Jesus can flip flop on everything and anything, except the wall, and still keep her support
Hopefully we'll see more and more people starting to grow in discontent. Romney's hated by a large portion of his hardcore base so his appointment to SoS presuming it happens will likely continue to piss people off.
Cheers. I can't stand the revolting bitch anyway so reading her shit would probably only piss me off anyway.
That the orange one doesn't understand China policy/relationship/history/strategy doesn't surprise me the least bit. But does no one on his fecking amateur hour team?!
This is the retardation that worries me. Mattis and Romney know this shit, but I would imagine they weren't even consulted about this or would have strongly advised against it. The population in all its retardation obviously don't realise that whatever grand strategy you have is irrelevant if you feck up the execution.
Well written but mainly nonsense. People are being squeezed by a recession and are lashing out at the "establishment" they blame for causing it. Combine this with right-wing huxters willing to build an election campaign on egregious lies and promises they know they'll never fulfil - as well as new forms of media that spread this duplicitous bullshit like wildfire - and you've got your explanation for what went down.
Trying to put it all down to identity politics (even though this was an element in Trump's appeal to a small minority of his electorate) is massively missing the point. Although admirably effective click-bait from the grauniad.
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I don't know, i would not dismiss it so easily though and i think he does raise some interesting points. The left has traditionally been a bastion of the working classes and with the left increasingly becoming more progressive the last years it has lost touch with it's roots in the process. The surge from the right is also evidence they struck a chord somewhere with these voters.
Now, we all know the right won't do a damn thing for the less privileged in society, but i firmly believe the left has to take a look at themselves as well as i don't think recent events is only down to circumstance.
Edit: I also found this interesting:
2nd edit: This might be a bit more controversial, but i also thinks it raises some interesting points
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/sneering-response-trumps-victory-reveals-exactly-won/
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The American "left" isn't very left though. There's a tradition in America of working class conservatism to begin with. So when the economy tanked under the Democrats they were always going to struggle, no matter how good a job Obama did at trying to steer them out of the mess they ended up in.
The Brexit thing is different in that the left didn't seem to even want to pose any kind of meaningful opposition campaign. So Farage et al were pushing against an open door.
There's a whole load of shite going on behind the failings of the left in the UK and the US. I think it's fair to say that a perception amongst the white working class that nobody cares about them is a factor. When times are hard, people always turn on anyone who is different so we shouldn't be surprised that racism and xenophobia becomes more prevalent in a recession. Politicians who are willing to exploit this unpleasant aspect of human nature will always have a head start. What really swung things, though, was the unprecedented willingness of elements of the right to flat out lie to them to win their vote. Once truth went out the window, unprecedented shit was always going to happen.
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This is very true. The established American left-wing isn't "left" at all by European standards.
I guess that's reasonable, and newspaper editors will always try to point out "the reason" for shock value instead of looking on the wider picture, but regardless of what lies were propagated by the right, one would think that not everyone who voted for Trump/Brexit swallowed the bait whole.
Imo "the left" (arbitrary i know) needs to have a word with themselves and maybe steer the ship in a different direction. Because one thing is for certain, and that is that a lot of voters in the centre has swung right rather than left, and a part of that has to be blamed on the left
Any credibility to the reports that five of the nine vote count machines in 1 county in Wisconsin have had seals tampered with?
Saw it being discussed on Reddit.
Saw it being discussed on Reddit.
Has anyone seen the "Carbon Dioxide is Life" TV add bought by the institute of Myron Ebell, Trump's environment guy?
I was sick to my stomach. That looked like parody the whole way. But it's not. Incredible.
You can watch it here if you have facebook. About 50 seconds in the video that says "Zen moment": https://www.facebook.com/Francisco-Louçã-150887489198/
I was sick to my stomach. That looked like parody the whole way. But it's not. Incredible.
You can watch it here if you have facebook. About 50 seconds in the video that says "Zen moment": https://www.facebook.com/Francisco-Louçã-150887489198/
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That made me cringe and laugh at the same time. I wonder if they really are that dense, or if they are fully aware they are lying through their teethEh? When did this happen?
The Trump family have got 4 years to make as many business deals and future contacts that they can, everything else including the campaign promises will most certainly take a back seat.
There's something endearing about Eric Drumpf that isn't necessarily the case for his siblings.
Wow
"They call it pollution"!As far as a lot of working class Americans are concerned, the entire duration of Obama's presidency.
Well then they are wrong.
I think that's the reason for the Trump win. People relying on shit media to form wrong impressions and then voting for a lying liar because it felt right. Too many people are trying to claim that the electorate was more sophisticated in making the choice when it's clearly not true, as evidenced by that gonk on the CNN video above going on about hearing about voter fraud on Facebook. That's what the average American is like and it's only going to get worse.
Make people stupider and you can get away with much more.
But I thought there are "no facts", so how can there be "the truth"?
Some other luminaries agree that there are no facts:
Oh I agree. It just takes a while for the effect of a recession to trickle down and really feck people. And when it bites that they blame the people in charge at that moment.
Exactly, the problem with only two parties is they lose sight of what is actually left and right, obviously anything that is more liberal than their Republican party will be considered to be "left wing" or as they wrongly call it, liberal. To be honest the Democrats are very close to the UK's Conservative party. They certainly aren't anything like our Liberal Democrats or our Labour party. However, some of their politicians like Bernie Saunders and Elizabeth Warren could fit in well in either of those over here. Let's not forget that Bernie's brother, Larry, is a member of the UK Green Party and was previously a member of the UK Labour Party. He came 4th in the recent by-elections for the seat in Witney.
It always frustrates me the labels given to many political parties or ideals, especially by people from the States, everything liberal or left is considered as socialist or communist by them. It's quite infuriating especially because often the people slating things like universal healthcare or social welfare are the people who need it the most, or who will need it later in life. Obviously the rich shouldn't ever need it, but working class families in the USA have been brought up to look at these things as scrounging, rather than what the rest of the world consider to be necessity as part of a decent, normal civilised society. I also find it strange that they are ok with things like the Police force, fire fighters and people in the armed forces that are completely funded by the Government and of course that is what people call socialist. I also find it staggering that healthcare can cost so much money in the USA (although I understand why) and yet so many people are not only happy to pay it, but argue against not having to, just because of some false perception or some moronic fear of someone else getting something for nothing.
I do however like the "progressive" label that many Democrats call themselves. That sums it up perfectly I think, everyone should be progressive in their thoughts and beliefs. It shows intelligence to be able to change your opinion. Obviously many core beliefs should never change, but in a constantly evolving and changing society, it makes sense that people's opinions will change at the same time. Without a society being progressive it will constantly be stuck back in the middle ages, and THAT is EXACTLY how many Right Wing Conservatives want things. They yearn for a country and life of years past that is long gone and never coming back. They cannot evolve their thoughts or beliefs and cannot stand change in any form. The reluctance and hatred that comes with this mindset is what everyone is seeing now. It manifests itself in racism, misogyny, xenophobia, sexism, homophobia and the fear of any change too. The hypocrisy in all this is many of these people are deeply religious and consider themselves to be charitable, and yet they continually vote for a Government that will deny people the basic rights that most people in Western Countries (and other first world countries) around the world receive.
Stein's staff claiming the voting machine's were tampered. Someone went to check out the evidence and the seals that block you from the machine had been tampered with.
Not sure if this is serious or not...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-russia-trump-sanctions-20161203-story.html
At least Russia is happy.
At least Russia is happy.
Which part of a trust fund kid who makes most of his money from TV and his brand is not a media elite?
Would you prefer "corrupt reality-entertainment elite"?
He boasted about being corrupt in the Republican primary debates. But hey-ho, who gives a shit, eh?
I just don't get the logic.
He was on a TV show - how did that turn into 'he's part of corrupt media elite'?
Must make Jon Stewart, Fareed Zakaria and Seth Macfarlane corrupt as hell then, based on that logic?! A bit unfair, esp as completely unfounded.
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