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Pretty much nothing Trump has said for the last year and a half has been defensible, but his supporters have popped up all over the place trying anyway.

I still think he doesn't actually want to be President. Probably hoping he loses the recount, and this stuff is more than likely nostalgic for him. He can pretend he's still in the middle of the campaign.

I agree he doesn't really want to be President, well he doesn't want to do all the work that's involved, but he wants the kudos, power and respect from the position, but I don't think he want's to lose anything. As you can tell by his tweets, it's eating him up that he lost the overall vote. He just can't take the fact he lost the popular vote, but still won the EC. I'm sick and tired of saying it really, but he's mentally ill. And anyone who can't see that he is mentally ill must have issues themselves because it's there for all to see. He should be eliminated from the Presidency because of mental health issues. Any doctor can see he has serious problems, I can't for the life of me see why nobody has challenged him on that already.
 
The US media really is spectacularly unprepared to deal with Trump.
 
I agree he doesn't really want to be President, well he doesn't want to do all the work that's involved, but he wants the kudos, power and respect from the position, but I don't think he want's to lose anything. As you can tell by his tweets, it's eating him up that he lost the overall vote. He just can't take the fact he lost the popular vote, but still won the EC. I'm sick and tired of saying it really, but he's mentally ill. And anyone who can't see that he is mentally ill must have issues themselves because it's there for all to see. He should be eliminated from the Presidency because of mental health issues. Any doctor can see he has serious problems, I can't for the life of me see why nobody has challenged him on that already.
I think most people are just hoping that the Trump we saw during the election cycle was a character and not a real person. Otherwise he's definitely mentally ill. I don't think he can believe the stuff he came out with, I have to assume it was a conscious stream of buzzwords to rally his base. Which still makes him dangerous as it means he has no principals other than winning... which if we remember how adamant he was that his classmate cheated on a test because he scored higher, probably makes a lot of sense. The Trump complex.
 
The US media really is spectacularly unprepared to deal with Trump.

They are dealing with a strange situation in that media itself is slowly drifting from traditional to digital/social and the public is being influenced by stuff like Trump's tweeting, fake news, Russian twitter trolls, Wikileaks releases etc. This has for the first time actually changed the standards by which candidates are perceived, which is allowing Trump to get away with his bombastic statements. Also, Republican candidates can now basically completely circumvent the main stream media by sticking to talk radio, Fox, and social media, and in the process still get their message out to the masses.

There needs to be a web site that tracks fake news that the public can reference to deconflict this sort of thing, otherwise the likes of Putin and others who want to disrupt the election to emplace their puppet of choice, will continue to have a field day.
 
I agree he doesn't really want to be President, well he doesn't want to do all the work that's involved, but he wants the kudos, power and respect from the position, but I don't think he want's to lose anything. As you can tell by his tweets, it's eating him up that he lost the overall vote. He just can't take the fact he lost the popular vote, but still won the EC. I'm sick and tired of saying it really, but he's mentally ill. And anyone who can't see that he is mentally ill must have issues themselves because it's there for all to see. He should be eliminated from the Presidency because of mental health issues. Any doctor can see he has serious problems, I can't for the life of me see why nobody has challenged him on that already.

We couldn't even get tax returns from the man... how are we supposed to get him to see an unbiased doctor?

The US media really is spectacularly unprepared to deal with Trump.

But is anyone, or any media? I will readily admit that I have no model or plan to debate or challenge stupid, for an audience of stupids.
 
What network does @langster work for?

Eh? What you on about Willis?

I think most people are just hoping that the Trump we saw during the election cycle was a character and not a real person. Otherwise he's definitely mentally ill. I don't think he can believe the stuff he came out with, I have to assume it was a conscious stream of buzzwords to rally his base. Which still makes him dangerous as it means he has no principals other than winning... which if we remember how adamant he was that his classmate cheated on a test because he scored higher, probably makes a lot of sense. The Trump complex.

Oh do come on mate. You are an intelligent guy, you really are. Please don't tell me you have fallen for it too? Just look at the evidence. He's a feckwitted moron. The latest Tweet about winning the popular vote is enough evidence to show how ill he is. He's a narcissistic sociopath with severe delusions of grandeur. However, those delusions have just been realised with the election which makes him extremely dangerous. Surely you can see he loves anyone who says anything nice about him, yet hates anything negative. Putin for example. The way he went at the media in the meeting the other day, yet as I said, they really let him off lightly. The way he's always saying "somebody said so" or "I've been told, or heard" and the way he's always "nobody is less racist than me" or "nobody knows women like I do" etc.

We couldn't even get tax returns from the man... how are we supposed to get him to see an unbiased doctor?

What scares me the most is that not only do people not see this, but they don't care. I've seen a few reports from doctors who say he is mentally ill, but it wouldn't matter because some people are so desperate, so angry, and so disillusioned with everything that they don't care. And of course, more than a few are seriously ill themselves. It's actually got to the point where I wonder if it's worth even arguing anymore. These people are so far gone it doesn't matter anyway, you will never get through to them, and what worries me more is when the orange moron lets them down, because he definitely will 100%, is what will happen then? Their great hope shits on them, what do they do then? They become even more angry and disillusioned. I can't see how this ends in any way other than disaster.
 
As funny as this may seem, the notion of President Trump is seriously beginning to frighten me.

With the thin skin he has, I dread him doing something stupid because some diplomat has said less than flattering things about him, and before we know it we have an Archduke Franz Ferdinand situation.
 


Whether he actually thinks that far ahead I don't know, but we're already seen Kobach head in for a meeting with "voter rolls" one of the topics for discussion. It becoming a reality is quite likely, particularly given the GOP in congress will lap it up.
 
A few months ago he's apparently losing so it's rigged! Then he wins so it wasn't rigged at all and even if it was it's ok because he won, then he's actually losing the popular vote so it's fecking rigged again by at least 3 million votes!

How exactly does that work in the mind of a normal, rational human being? Quite simply, it doesn't. And yet there are still many questions about the validity of the vote and results, and NONE about his mental health or state of mind and ability to do the job. That job being the President of the United States of America and the fact he has control over nuclear weapons. Feck my life! It's insane!

BTW the Three Million votes he was on about, where did he get that figure?



Be afraid! be very, very fecking afraid!
 
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Yeah, I suppose so. The reports that over 5000 votes were discounted from 4 boroughs of Wisconsin must surely be a worry for him. Apparently they all had more votes than actual voters. Also, he's clearly worrying when he shouldn't be, which begs the question, does he know something we all don't?



Maybe, but he does still write a fair few Tweets, and even if that isn't him, it's either been dictated to the poster OR they are trying to make it seem like him with the SAD! at the end, which ironically makes it even all the more SAD! :lol:
Doesn't this state requires photo ID to vote?
 
states don't elect presidents, people elect presidents

:wenger: In the UK, which is a parliamentary system, is the Prime Minister elected directly by the people? Screw that, even the number of seats each party gets is not proportional to the votes they get in the election. SNP got 1.4 million votes and got 56 seats while the Lib Dems get 2.4 million votes and win just 8 seats. UKIP gets 3.9 million votes and wins 1 seat. Popular vote never decides the election.
 
It's an electoral college system based on the idea of votes being proportional to population. One person one vote is well established in American jurisprudence. If the house of representatives elected the president you would have a point. They do not.
 
Yes, I do agree about the house of representatives. If the house elected the president, that would be proportional. That should be the method imo. The presidential election should be decided like that. Mind, that would not allow popular vote to decide the election, which is also good. I don't think the popular vote alone should decide elections. It should be like the UK.
 
Yes, I do agree about the house of representatives. If the house elected the president, that would be proportional. That should be the method imo. The presidential election should be decided like that. Mind, that would not allow popular vote to decide the election, which is also good. I don't think the popular vote alone should decide elections. It should be like the UK.

No, it wouldn't. Look at the vote totals for House seats and the corresponding seat distributions. What you're suggesting is literally the British/Indian system, with all its flaws.
 
No, it wouldn't. Look at the vote totals for House seats and the corresponding seat distributions. What you're suggesting is literally the British/Indian system, with all its flaws.

Also, in practice, each congressional district is decided by the popular vote winner, the same goes for the senate, governorships, city council, and all sorts of posts all the way down to dog catcher. So what the current system is saying is that one man one vote applies for all, bar the presidency, because, reasons.
 
Also, in practice, each congressional district is decided by the popular vote winner, the same goes for the senate, governorships, city council, and all sorts of posts all the way down to dog catcher. So what the current system is saying is that one man one vote applies for all, bar the presidency, because, reasons.

Yup :lol:
 
Are you saying that every house seat in the House of Representatives doesn't have roughly the same population? I didn't know that.

It's roughly the same but since you can't have fractional congressmen representing states there are small difference. I think his point was more about gerrymandering though.
 
Was also wondering, what ever happened to the allegations from the 11 or so women that have come forward saying Trump had sexually assaulted them?

Are they just brushed under the carpet and forgotten now he's President?
 
He'll settle with them out of court and launch a shed load of tweets to mask over the fact.
 
Was also wondering, what ever happened to the allegations from the 11 or so women that have come forward saying Trump had sexually assaulted them?

Are they just brushed under the carpet and forgotten now he's President?
Yes
 
Truly a testament to the American dream, anyone can be President, even sexual predators and pathological bullies.

What's next? First pedo president?
One of them is bound to have been a pedo already.
 
Truly a testament to the American dream, anyone can be President, even sexual predators and pathological bullies.

What's next? First pedo president?
It's quite possible there has already been a pedo president. 30% chance is probably a good estimate with conservative statistical percentages.
 
One of them is bound to have been a pedo already.

It's quite possible there has already been a pedo president. 30% chance is probably a good estimate with conservative statistical percentages.

Probably. Though we're yet to have one who's won a presidential election on the back of there being concrete allegations of them being a nonce.
 
I think most people are just hoping that the Trump we saw during the election cycle was a character and not a real person. Otherwise he's definitely mentally ill. I don't think he can believe the stuff he came out with, I have to assume it was a conscious stream of buzzwords to rally his base. Which still makes him dangerous as it means he has no principals other than winning... which if we remember how adamant he was that his classmate cheated on a test because he scored higher, probably makes a lot of sense. The Trump complex.
I don't believe for a second he's smart enough to pull off something like that. He's incoherent to the point where he can't actually speak in any meaningful way.
 
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