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got to remember, Trump can't denounce these people, they are his core voters.

He also has, in bannon, someone who has a history of saying the exact same stuff through brietbart, he is the here for the fascists and has openly said he wants to watch the world burn and tear it all down.
 
got to remember, Trump can't denounce these people, they are his core voters.

He also has, in bannon, someone who has a history of saying the exact same stuff through brietbart, he is the here for the fascists and has openly said he wants to watch the world burn and tear it all down.

They are a part of his base, but you cant say they're the key portion of his voting base.
 
got to remember, Trump can't denounce these people, they are his core voters.

He also has, in bannon, someone who has a history of saying the exact same stuff through brietbart, he is the here for the fascists and has openly said he wants to watch the world burn and tear it all down.


The only thing he cares about are his core supporters and Putin -- he will never say anything to upset them. Thats the only predictable thing about this cnut.
 
I'd hate to be seen to be defending Trump even tepidly, but AntiFa have been showing up to these right wing marches with weapons and using them for months now so he's not wrong when he says "from all sides" or however he phrased it.

On a day when a woman has been murdered by a right wing extremist it's very poor of him not to single that faction out but it was only a matter of time before someone on one side or the other was killed, especially with consistent reports of police being ordered to stand down.

Completely agree. They, Antifa, appear to have been ramping it up themselves of late. They're giving all of those crazy bastards on the other side exactly what they want, which is an excuse to shed this alt-right bollocks and bring their true ugliness to the fore.
 
Completely agree. They, Antifa, appear to have been ramping it up themselves of late. They're giving all of those crazy bastards on the other side exactly what they want, which is an excuse to shed this alt-right bollocks and bring their true ugliness to the fore.

We want them to bring their true ugliness to the fore. A lot less people will be attracted to a skinhead waving a swastika flag than they might be by some guy in a suit talking about how unfair the system is for poor white folks.
 
It gives those suits perfect cover though. Note how Sessions, Cruz et al can comfortably distance themselves from said flag waving Nazis ("see, we're not like them - we condemned them") while still happily going about their business of disenfranchising minorities etc.
 
We want them to bring their true ugliness to the fore. A lot less people will be attracted to a skinhead waving a swastika flag than they might be by some guy in a suit talking about how unfair the system is for poor white folks.

Whilst I don't disagree, Antifa have been coming across every bit as worse at times, so whilst it's nice that all of the "normal" people get to see them for what they are, there's still potential for it to seriously escalate and snowball into something it doesn't need to be.
 
We want them to bring their true ugliness to the fore. A lot less people will be attracted to a skinhead waving a swastika flag than they might be by some guy in a suit talking about how unfair the system is for poor white folks.

And likewise lot less people are going will be attracted to a balaclava clad coward smacking someone over the head with a bike lock and throwing bricks into crowds, which has been the antifa M.O. for months. This situation is already way out of hand and I think its only gonna accelerate
 
Completely agree. They, Antifa, appear to have been ramping it up themselves of late. They're giving all of those crazy bastards on the other side exactly what they want, which is an excuse to shed this alt-right bollocks and bring their true ugliness to the fore.

And likewise lot less people are going will be attracted to a balaclava clad coward smacking someone over the head with a bike lock and throwing bricks into crowds, which has been the antifa M.O. for months. This situation is already way out of hand and I think its only gonna accelerate

Im sorry, have we travelled to some bizarre alternate universe where fighting against nazis is now bad? Because last I checked, the anti-Fascist groups have been the ones out on the streets standing up the the rise of neo-nazis and white supremacists for decades while everyone else sat on their fat asses and pretended nazis only existed any more in Indiana Jones movies.
 
Im sorry, have we travelled to some bizarre alternate universe where fighting against nazis is now bad? Because last I checked, the anti-Fascist groups have been the ones out on the streets standing up the the rise of neo-nazis and white supremacists for decades while everyone else sat on their fat asses and pretended nazis only existed any more in Indiana Jones movies.

Unfortunately antifas definition of Nazi now seems to be anyone right of centre. Case in point the inferno at the Milo speech months ago.
 
Unfortunately antifas definition of Nazi now seems to be anyone right of centre. Case in point the inferno at the Milo speech months ago.

There are literally hordes of white men doing the Nazi salute, insisting that they take back 'their' country.

Are these not Nazi's?
 
Im sorry, have we travelled to some bizarre alternate universe where fighting against nazis is now bad? Because last I checked, the anti-Fascist groups have been the ones out on the streets standing up the the rise of neo-nazis and white supremacists for decades while everyone else sat on their fat asses and pretended nazis only existed any more in Indiana Jones movies.

It wouldn't be if these anti-fascists in particular weren't acting like the ones they oppose, escalating the situation and giving the Nazis what they want. It's no coincidence that they've become more radical very recently as Antifa have, as I said above, ramped it up themselves.

Put simply, they aren't your average 'anti-Fascist groups'. They're radical themselves and have been contributing to us seeing situations like yesterday's one.

There are literally hordes of white men doing the Nazi salute, insisting that they take back 'their' country.

Are these not Nazi's?

His point is pretty obvious. Yes, they're Nazis, but Antifa are vilfying anybody they suspect of being on the wrong side of the political spectrum.
 
It wouldn't be if these anti-fascists in particular weren't acting like the ones they oppose, escalating the situation and giving the Nazis what they want. It's no coincidence that they've become more radical very recently as Antifa have, as I said above, ramped it up themselves.

Put simply, they aren't your average 'anti-Fascist groups'. They're radical themselves and have been contributing to us seeing situations like yesterday's one.

His point is pretty obvious. Yes, they're Nazis, but Antifa are vilfying anybody they suspect of being on the wrong side of the political spectrum.

Sorry but this is bollocks. You're basically blaming the anti-fascists for the rise of the far right, something that has been happening for over 20 years and is now coming to a violent climax largely because the majority of people didn't take it seriously as a threat until they saw these fascist pricks openly doing nazi salutes and waving swastika flags in the streets as they attacked people.

Feck this false equivalence, these cnunts are fascists, racists and hatemongers who openly want a racially separated society with minorities treated as subservient lesser beings. When they're out on the streets shouting about people being put on boats home, sent into ovens and 'subjugated', it doesn't take a genius to see the kind of scum we're dealing with.
 
It wouldn't be if these anti-fascists in particular weren't acting like the ones they oppose, escalating the situation and giving the Nazis what they want. It's no coincidence that they've become more radical very recently as Antifa have, as I said above, ramped it up themselves.

Put simply, they aren't your average 'anti-Fascist groups'. They're radical themselves and have been contributing to us seeing situations like yesterday's one.



His point is pretty obvious. Yes, they're Nazis, but Antifa are vilfying anybody they suspect of being on the wrong side of the political spectrum.

Or maybe, the ones who aren't Nazi's should do more to show that they aren't a Nazi - such as openly condemning hate speech, distancing themselves from the racists & bigots and calling them out.

People are caught up saying 'I'm not racist, don't call me a Nazi', rather than saying 'Let's stop giving Nazi's a platform and enabling hate speech' and doing something about it.

If these Nazi's are in the minority, and anybody who is centre-right isn't aligned with them - then why aren't they also joining the fight against them?
 
There are literally hordes of white men doing the Nazi salute, insisting that they take back 'their' country.

Are these not Nazi's?

There clearly were actual Nazis at the march in Charlottesville. That doesn't change the fact that antifa have been initiating violence towards any kind of Trump supporters ever since inauguration day.

Milo Yiannopolous (who I don't particularly like) is far from a Nazi and yet that didn't stop the baying mob from shutting his speech down. The Trump supporter who got clocked with a bike lock was having a civil debate with someone he disagreed with.

How is any of this helping the cause?
 
There clearly were actual Nazis at the march in Charlottesville. That doesn't change the fact that antifa have been initiating violence towards any kind of Trump supporters ever since inauguration day.

Milo Yiannopolous (who I don't particularly like) is far from a Nazi and yet that didn't stop the baying mob from shutting his speech down. The Trump supporter who got clocked with a bike lock was having a civil debate with someone he disagreed with.

How is any of this helping the cause?

Milo is far from a Nazi? How is he far from a Nazi?

Anyone who votes for Trump is either a racist, or doesn't care that he is racist - and ignoring racism, is allying with racism as far as I'm concerned.
 
In the UK it has served on numerous occasions as a message to the fascists that they're actually pathetic peices of shit and not the glorious master race they like to imagine.

That's gonna work amazingly in a country as armed to the teeth as America.
 
I don't see why that would warrant a BBC breaking news alert.

BBC would do well to remember the reason they're respected worldwide is, because they are known to be a serious/credible news organisation and not a trashy tabloid gossip style organization.
 
I don't see why that would warrant a BBC breaking news alert.

BBC would do well to remember the reason they're respected worldwide is, because they are known to be a serious/credible news organisation and not a trashy tabloid gossip style organization.


Again Amer Sister - Folks are losing the run of themselves
 
I don't see why that would warrant a BBC breaking news alert.

BBC would do well to remember the reason they're respected worldwide is, because they are known to be a serious/credible news organisation and not a trashy tabloid gossip style organization.

How is that "gossip"? It's the former Communication's Chief saying that there is people in the White House trying to get rid of the President. 80% of the article is direct quotes from him.

Is this Administration really that much of a joke that this is no longer news worthy?!
 
I don't see why that would warrant a BBC breaking news alert.

BBC would do well to remember the reason they're respected worldwide is, because they are known to be a serious/credible news organisation and not a trashy tabloid gossip style organization.
Did you even read the article :lol:. How exactly is that gossip.
 
I don't see why that would warrant a BBC breaking news alert.

BBC would do well to remember the reason they're respected worldwide is, because they are known to be a serious/credible news organisation and not a trashy tabloid gossip style organization.

Its not even worth a tweet much less a breaking news one. Everyone in the US knew the Mooch was going on This Week and would have a lot of soundbites. That sort of tweet by the Beeb only misleads non-Americans who are in search of anti-Trump news.
 
How is that "gossip"? It's the former Communication's Chief saying that there is people in the White House trying to get rid of the President. 80% of the article is direct quotes from him.

Is this Administration really that much of a joke that this is no longer news worthy?!

Did you even read the article :lol:. How exactly is that gossip.

Its the sensationalising elements of it. There was nothing in the article when they posted it on their Twitter handle and the article was empty with the disclaimer "more to follow".

The rush to quickly publish an article with no content in it apart from a fancy title which will spread on social media is what annoys me. Its the screaming of "BREAKING NEWS" and the click bait titles which i have an issue with. Nothing about this story was worthy of the "breaking news" title.

Its some bitter ex WH employee who was publicly humiliated with his firing and wants to spread some conspiratorial nonsense, so he can get in the news again.

Raoul's tweet sums it up well.
 
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