Very Mussolini like.
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Very Mussolini like.
Looks like Trump wants to get those poll numbers up. That's bad for the world
MAGA. Jobs will move back to America
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That's what Jesus told them to do, isn't it?
We know they live for Judgement Day.
It's not their fault tbh. For decades they've been fed the tough guy macho 'feck yeah 'Murica' image from the Hollywood librul elites they so despise. When you are reared on the idea that everything can be solved by a violent confrontation it's hard to shred on adulthood.
Well feck
Interesting the change in his mental capacity since then. He still had no clue what he was talking about but he made it sound better and actually formed coherent sentences.
Errrr, so this is his position for the last 18 years?
Eek.
Eek.
Its time the allies looked after their own interests and not let Trump be the spokesperson for them.
IF (and not so big if) he decided to pre-emptively strike N. Korea
Can he do so as POTUS?
Can the congress / any sane military official stops him?
Can he do so as POTUS?
Can the congress / any sane military official stops him?
Yes.
Military officials could disobey a lawful order by the president, but they'd end up in jail.
I believe a preemptive strike requires Congress approval and maybe a resolution from UN Security Council. However, if they cook up some faux info about NK about to launch at US mainland or US military base in SK/Japan, then he's within his right to order a strike.
its a situation obviously you would prefer a more stable president to be in place
but its not the case, what do you all suggest Trump should do? He is being backed into a corner
but its not the case, what do you all suggest Trump should do? He is being backed into a corner
He's not been backed into using that sort of rhetoric at all. That's just him grandstanding for his base. Even a rookie diplomat or politician knows the importance of language and diplomacy when this sort of posturing is going on but that's his problem - he's neither. It's all bluster and not all that different from Kim Jong Un's. These children rule the world ffs. Oh and....
Pre cog from The Don there.
It's like a completely different person. He stays on topic, he uses words with more than three syllables... He definitely is suffering from mental degradation nowadays.
You think what he said was his only option?
and presumably instantly replaced by somebody who would undertake the order anyway.
You have to remember, guam is 2000 miles from NK, its 30 miles long and 10 miles wide.
The chances of an NK missile hitting that small a target with their missiles is low to non-existent. Its just teh same blustering rhetoric from a sociopathic frightened little child we have had since un took control of the country.
The difference now is that the US also has a socipathic frightened little child in charge, hence the stupidity of response. Trumps problem now is that after threatening that, if he doesn't deliver, the US hegemony of power around the world, based mostly off the willingness to use its overpowering military, will be diminished.
What the trumpsters cheering him on do not see, is that he is hurting their own country through ineptitude and idiocy.
Its worth noting there is no US Ass't Secretary of State for East Asia, trump does not even have a recommendation put forward for vetting, he just didn't bother appointing anyone. So no senior diplomat to deal with this crisis at all. And that is why trump is so dangerous to the US itself.
The chances of an NK missile hitting that small a target with their missiles is low to non-existent. Its just teh same blustering rhetoric from a sociopathic frightened little child we have had since un took control of the country.
The difference now is that the US also has a socipathic frightened little child in charge, hence the stupidity of response. Trumps problem now is that after threatening that, if he doesn't deliver, the US hegemony of power around the world, based mostly off the willingness to use its overpowering military, will be diminished.
What the trumpsters cheering him on do not see, is that he is hurting their own country through ineptitude and idiocy.
Its worth noting there is no US Ass't Secretary of State for East Asia, trump does not even have a recommendation put forward for vetting, he just didn't bother appointing anyone. So no senior diplomat to deal with this crisis at all. And that is why trump is so dangerous to the US itself.
Yep.
No sane military official would ever disobey an order, unless it was something ridiculous like the president launching a nuclear strike on an ally of the USA.
It 100% doesn't require anything from the security council, and IIRC the president can basically order anything he damned well likes for up to 30 days of operation.
Not sure how you can say its all bluster and that there's nothing to worry about. The dangers of conflict breaking out is currently at the highest level its been for a long time.
The progress in their nuclear capabilities is currently the most advanced in their history and its why so many people are worried. Look at the image below to see the progress they've made.
Then we had this big development yesterday
Absolutely no way is it the 'correct' approach to get into a face off with a leader so unstable and mentally fragile.
Trump's approach is wrong too.
Here's a little something to calm everyone down a tad..
60 days
@InfiniteBoredom - it's the War Powers Resolution
The President can unilaterally enter into undeclared war via his authority as Commander in Chief. Believe it or not, this was created after Vietnam as a way to limit the president's war making power.
Johnson has a lot to answer for.
I've always assumed that retaliatory strike is the limit of executive power not beholden to Congressional approval. You can trigger WWIII at a whim, brilliant.
Oh doesn't he though. Completely derailed the US from a path that would have us in the realm of European style social democracy in order to fight the bogeyman in Vietnam
He acknowledged himself at the time that Gulf of Tonkin incident might just be fabrication/human error from the US military.
People like to shit on GOP presidents and rightly so but Kennedy and Johnson were responsible for more deaths than Reagan, Bush Snr. and W combined.
I'd not lump Kennedy in with Johnson. He had ordered a withdrawal plan created to end involvement in Vietnam and was set to enact it late 1963/early 1964. When he was assassinated, Johnson reversed course and doubled down on the military efforts there.
It is always about his business. A bit like Berlusconi.
The decision to get involved in the beginning was his. It was well sourced that he saw Vietnam as a convenient pawn to showcase his anticommunism credentials rather than any consideration about strategic importance to US interests.
I also have doubt about the withdrawal plan. He did say to Cronkite that the war might essentially be unwinnable and weren't shy about admitting the CIA role in 1963 coup, but his brother after his death said JFK never thought about pulling out.
This is the quote about said plan.
Anyway, we are derailing the thread a bit. Back to the two fat lunatics.
Trump just creating jobs in the home bunker industry. Making America great again!
(Someone should check that he doesn't own shares in the bloody things)
(Someone should check that he doesn't own shares in the bloody things)
and not just jobs in America - think of all the rebuilding in Seoul plus not no mention trump pyongyang... I bet he even has designs on turning the prison camps into golf courses - and think of the cheep labour - WINNING!
Here's a little something to calm everyone down a tad..
Who saw this coming? God annointing Trump to be our saviour?
Here's a little something to calm everyone down a tad..
It's like that scene from Kingdoms of Heaven...
"God wills it!!!"
oh well if god says bomb civilians then it must be ok... erm as long as its the right god - obviously - USA USA USA
Eisenhower got us into Vietnam during the French Indochina War.
McNamara talks about Kennedy's withdrawal plan in his memoirs.
It's at least refreshing to talk about a rational person in the White House
Nothing quite like a cool head during turbulent times and the threat of global, nuclear catastrophe. Really gives you hope for the future. We're lucky to have you Mr. President.
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