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Come on. There have been loads of stories posted in this thread by @langster alone that were simply opportunistic journalists telling Trump opposers vaguely plausible stories that they want to hear, that have either been entirely forgotten about - and are thus untrue, given the supposed gravity of the claims - or have been outright disproven. Just think how easy it is to make that up. Just look at how many conflicting stories there were about Priebus in the immediate aftermath.

The plausibility of it, the joy it brings its readers and the variety of similar examples of outright lying doesn't mean that this story is untrue, of course, but do we really need to jump on baseless claims when there's so much to look into that is supported by robust evidence?

WH reporter for CBS News.
 
As much as I want Trump gone, I don't think a coup is an option that I'd like to see. A coup is setting a dangerous precedent for a democracy. Besides, I don't think this is ever happening in the US anyway.

Military is too decentralized for a coup to be effective. You have the commands stationed abroad, state national guards... It would be chaos.
 
WH reporter for CBS News.

At a time when trust in the news is at possibly its lowest point in modern history...

The executive editor of CNN's investigative unit was fired for his role in the retracted story about Trump.
 
At a time when trust in the news is at possibly its lowest point in modern history...

The executive editor of CNN's investigative unit was fired for his role in the retracted story about Trump.

So let her be fired if it ain't true. For someone in that position, I'm inclined to believe it is true.
 
So let her be fired if it ain't true. For someone in that position, I'm inclined to believe it is true.

Don't you see a problem with blind faith in an organisation and an industry with an obvious agenda, a history of unsubstantiated and false claims and in an environment where inexplicable chaos is the norm? She's not necessarily lying, but it's entirely plausible she's being lied to.

It's entirely plausible that Trump orchestrated this all - throw in a suicide bomber in the form of Scaramucci to kick out the old guard, and then have that suicide bomber kicked out himself to show they're now establishing order with a new man by his side. If that's the narrative they want to create then having people feed the press that he was escorted out is perfect.

That may not be the dominant narrative but here's an excerpt from the BBC...

If Scaramucci's exit was indeed orchestrated by newly appointed chief of staff John Kelly, it could be an indication that the former general is quickly asserting control over what has been a rancorous White House.
 
Don't you see a problem with blind faith in an organisation and an industry with an obvious agenda, a history of unsubstantiated and false claims and in an environment where inexplicable chaos is the norm? She's not necessarily lying, but it's entirely plausible she's being lied to.

It's entirely plausible that Trump orchestrated this all - throw in a suicide bomber in the form of Scaramucci to kick out the old guard, and then have that suicide bomber kicked out himself to show they're now establishing order with a new man by his side. If that's the narrative they want to create then having people feed the press that he was escorted out is perfect.

That may not be the dominant narrative but here's an excerpt from the BBC...

We're having quite a big discussion here about a rather innocuous and probably true detail in a batshit crazy story. I think whether the small (but fun) detail is true or not (and I'm going to stand by it considering the source til I see otherwise) is kind of neither here nor there. I also think you're giving Trump waaaaaaaaay too much credit with that second theory there.

Edit: sources plural now.

Edit Edit: To suggest using that BBC quote Trump has orchestrated something that Kelly has done since he was hired again stretches the bounds of believability. The man verifiably adopts the opinion of whatever he saw ten seconds ago on Fox And Friends.
 
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Trump probably wants to get through the events of 8 years of presidency before he gets impeached.
 
Bloody hell. If this was a TV show then it'd have been criticised for being too dramatic.

"Can't believe the Scaramucci actor left after only one episode. Was expecting him to stay for a season at least."
 
As much as I want Trump gone, I don't think a coup is an option that I'd like to see. A coup is setting a dangerous precedent for a democracy. Besides, I don't think this is ever happening in the US anyway.

I didn't say I'd like to see one. I just have a hunch there will end up being the equivalent of a de facto coup to end this bizarre episode in US history. Trump will have to be removed at some point, he is weakening the US so much. Call it what you want when that happens, it might be something like a coup. Either that or we've three and half more years of this madness, which can't be good for America.
 
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I think (hope) that the general officers in the US military have enough appreciation for its Constitution, not to do that.

Not going to happen, but he had and still probably has a huge majority support in the military.
 
Not going to happen, but he had and still probably has a huge majority support in the military.

I find it interesting that his support varied significantly from enlisted to officer, and from service to service with Marines being the higher (at least around election):

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Not necessarily, they're the ones who'd have to go and bleed if he provokes an unnecessary conflict.

Marines seemingly live for that though. Tell them to go off fight one of those tribes of the Amazon with minimal contact with civilization, and they'll treat it like the calling of a lifetime.
 
I find it interesting that his support varied significantly from enlisted to officer, and from service to service with Marines being the higher (at least around election):

military-times-ivmf-poll-september-2016.jpg



Marines seemingly live for that though. Tell them to go off fight one of those tribes of the Amazon with minimal contact with civilization, and they'll treat it like the calling of a lifetime.


That 1% Green-military overlap :lol:
 
Not necessarily, they're the ones who'd have to go and bleed if he provokes an unnecessary conflict.

They don't care, they still support him. I come in contact with a lot of people in the Navy and Marines and to a man they are Republicans, not everyone, but a vast majority.
 
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