The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated

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Ramshock said:
Whats up with ye kiddo?
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Ah, bashed my head today pretty badly and was just absolutely petrified because of my previous brain haemorrhage and the coils in my head. I just got worried because obviously I had a raging headache and just worried I had another bleed, but had a CT scan and they said I just have mild concussion and should be ok in a few days which was a relief to say the least.
 
langster said:
Ah, bashed my head today pretty badly and was just absolutely petrified because of my previous brain haemorrhage and the coils in my head. I just got worried because obviously I had a raging headache and just worried I had another bleed, but had a CT scan and they said I just have mild concussion and should be ok in a few days which was a relief to say the least.
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Really should stop banging your head of walls mate. I gave it up years ago! :D
 
langster said:


So much negativity all the time. It's depressing as hell, it really is. Can Republicans and their supporters genuinely be happy with all this constant bad press?
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We all live in our separate self-affirming bubbles now. So I doubt if they ever get to read any contrarian views.
 
langster said:
You make an excellent point.



I'd love her to be, but sadly I think it's impossible unless she's banging one of the Secret Service agents assigned to protect her.
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Never stopped Bill who's attitude was to bang those nearest to him or the lowest hanging fruit regardless of quality. I would too, considering the SS everywhere and his tightly controlled schedules.
 
langster said:
Ah, bashed my head today pretty badly and was just absolutely petrified because of my previous brain haemorrhage and the coils in my head. I just got worried because obviously I had a raging headache and just worried I had another bleed, but had a CT scan and they said I just have mild concussion and should be ok in a few days which was a relief to say the least.
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Jaysus! Take it easy fella

Do the coils stop your head getting pregnant?
 
iKnowNothing said:
I don't see how impeachment is a possibility in an R controlled congress.




So basically what you're saying is should Trump pardon people, we, the common public, have to rely on "leaks" to get the information AND everything said and done, any incriminating evidence found against anyone would most likely remain in a report or on paper and that there's nothing we can do about it because there's another piece of paper that "protects" and thereby overrides the former.
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Yep, that is the case if Trump decides to issue pardons in secret. The ramifications of Trump issuing secret pardons and we then find out about it via leaks would be disastrous and political suicide for this WH.
 
Looks like Tillerson may be one of the next high profile casualties of this administration. Will be interesting to see who calls it quits first between Tillerson and Sessions.

 
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2cents said:
Kushner statement - http://edition.cnn.com/2017/07/24/politics/jared-kushner-statement-russia-2016-election/index.html
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Imagine it in your head with this voice:

The Kush said:
Our nimble culture allowed us to adjust to the ever-changing circumstances and make changes on the fly as the situation warranted. I share this information because these actions should be viewed through the lens of a fast-paced campaign with thousands of meetings and interactions, some of which were impactful and memorable and many of which were not.
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So there's where his defence will go :rolleyes:

The Kush said:
I did not have the time to read every one, especially long emails from unknown senders or email chains to which I was added at some later point in the exchange.
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:lol:
 
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The Kush said:
With all the ambassadors, including Mr. Kislyak, we shook hands, exchanged brief pleasantries and I thanked them for attending the event and said I hoped they would like candidate Trump's speech and his ideas for a fresh approach to America's foreign policy. The ambassadors also expressed interest in creating a positive relationship should we win the election. Each exchange lasted less than a minute; some gave me their business cards and invited me to lunch at their embassies. I never took them up on any of these invitations and that was the extent of the interactions.
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I'd have money on this being the next thing to be shown to be untrue.
 
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The Kush said:
I arrived at the meeting a little late. When I got there, the person who has since been identified as a Russian attorney was talking about the issue of a ban on U.S. adoptions of Russian children. I had no idea why that topic was being raised and quickly determined that my time was not well-spent at this meeting. Reviewing emails recently confirmed my memory that the meeting was a waste of our time and that, in looking for a polite way to leave and get back to my work, I actually emailed an assistant from the meeting after I had been there for ten or so minutes and wrote "Can u pls call me on my cell? Need excuse to get out of meeting."
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:lol:

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There has been a good deal of misinformation reported about my SF-86 form. As my attorneys and I have previously explained, my SF-86 application was prematurely submitted due to a miscommunication and initially did not list any contacts (not just with Russians) with foreign government officials.
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Big lol at this one too. He's obviously picked up a few tips from Jeffferson.
 
senorgregster said:
Didn't he have to resubmit 3 times? I'm very doubtful anything will come of any of this.
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Apparently he left off over 100 meetings and millions of dollars too. What worries me the most though is how he, Manafort and Jr Fart all got out of public hearings and made deals so it sounds like some Q&A session. Apparently though they don't have to be sworn in as it is still illegal to lie/give false evidence to Congress, but I am now very sceptical about it all. Are they going to have to appear again under oath? in private or public?

I'm wondering if Mueller and co have enough on everyone already and just want to see how much they are going to lie. There are clear conflicts of interest from all of them and Trump himself. Trump has clearly broken emoluments laws too AND they have all lied to the public and the press and Sessions has lied under oath, so there's a plethora of laws having been broken between them all already, and that's just what we know, and it's just scratching the surface. That's why when people say there's no "there there" I have to stop and think they are either blind, or have an agenda, or most probably on this forum, on the WUM.
 
Tillerson has been a massive disappointment thus far.

You'd think with his background he'd realize why the State Department is such an important entity. It's not something the average American cares about or knows about...but, it is indispensable - yet, he has worked pro actively to tear it down and neuter it.
 
JustAFan said:
Typical what aboutism and the stupidity to not understand it's because he is the fecking President so of course any wrong doing by his administration will be investigated.
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That's what winds me up the most I think. The sheer fact he doesn't understand a single thing and always tries whataboutism to get out of everything. How can his supporters still put up with him? He led a campaign on locking Hillary up, the day after he was sworn in as President he said he wouldn't lock her up because she's suffered enough already, only to then spend the next six months attacking her every single day. How can his supporters put up with it and not see it? And he's literally just bullying a woman he said had suffered enough. I can't get my head around how he gets away with it all the time.

Dan said:
'Sleazy' WTF?
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Again, proving my point. He's a disgusting bully, throwing baseless accusations around all the time, but he's the President for fecks sake.
 
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Neutral said:
Tillerson has been a massive disappointment thus far.

You'd think with his background he'd realize why the State Department is such an important entity. It's not something the average American cares about or knows about...but, it is indispensable - yet, he has worked pro actively to tear it down and neuter it.
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For Tillerson and coming from the O&G industry, he probably realised that diplomacy is so much harder. In his previous vocation, all you need are deals and then personal side deals ($$) to grease your way in.

Not so easy at the State Dept.
 
sglowrider said:
For Tillerson and coming from the O&G industry, he probably realised that diplomacy is so much harder. In his previous vocation, all you need are deals and then personal side deals ($$) to grease your way in.

Not so easy at the State Dept.
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You can actually buy support of smaller nations with what might amount to national level "bribes", essentially funding for whatever that country might deem most relevant at the time. If the local leaders will then make good us of the funds is another matter entirely...

Obviously doesn't apply so much at high level, big power politics. But mostly whoever occupied the State Dept. now and whoever might occupy it next will have a tough time having that much impact on the agenda. It seems to me to be a position and whole Department that is only influential when whoever POTUS is makes sure the head of it stands front-and-center in foreign policy issues. We've seen before, even during GWB admin, that there's 10 other departments, agencies, etc. vying to direct the foreign policy positions. Be it Defense, NSC, CIA, the VP, Chieff of Staff or even the AG when he happens to be the President's brother (RFK).
 
langster said:
Apparently he left off over 100 meetings and millions of dollars too. What worries me the most though is how he, Manafort and Jr Fart all got out of public hearings and made deals so it sounds like some Q&A session. Apparently though they don't have to be sworn in as it is still illegal to lie/give false evidence to Congress, but I am now very sceptical about it all. Are they going to have to appear again under oath? in private or public?

I'm wondering if Mueller and co have enough on everyone already and just want to see how much they are going to lie. There are clear conflicts of interest from all of them and Trump himself. Trump has clearly broken emoluments laws too AND they have all lied to the public and the press and Sessions has lied under oath, so there's a plethora of laws having been broken between them all already, and that's just what we know, and it's just scratching the surface. That's why when people say there's no "there there" I have to stop and think they are either blind, or have an agenda, or most probably on this forum, on the WUM.
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I think you're jumping the ship on conclusions a bit too much. You make it sound like they've all been proven criminals when afaik all we have is some circumstancial evidence, apart from the two cases of lying under oath (Mattis and Sessions). From Kushner's statement - which ofc has been carefully written and examined by his attorneys - we can gather that not all meetings have to be mentioned, so the fact that he left 100 meetings off doesn't really offer anything, because they could have just been campaign/business meetings. Naturally, they could also be collusion, but in the nature of criminal investigation the benefit of the doubt is with the suspect.

Also there is no way Mueller is waiting with playing his cards in order to see if they are going to lie in future or not. Just doesn't work like that. He has enough when he has investigated all possible leads, not when he has found something illegal - in part because of the fact that not everything illegal is from the same weight.

Lying to the public or the press is common in politics and I have nothing seen yet that would suggest that it is illegal. It's bad practice, that's for sure but not illegal. Lying under oath is another matter altogether, still there are various degree in wrongdoing. Sessions forgot to mention that he met with russians iirc - he lied, that's obv. wrong - but that in itself is no proof of collusion (who gets jailed for missing an asset on tax return?). So saying others are blind when using that sort of undifferentiated language imo is only moderately credible.
 
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