Why are Preibus and Spicer so against this chap? What's his 101?
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Why are Preibus and Spicer so against this chap? What's his 101?
Only as a comical figure a la Baghdad Bob.
No there there but let's fire the FBI director cause that's quite normal during an investigation. It's great seeing America regress itself and I'm alive to see Americans actually defend the actions of Russians.
If I implied the left are the only ones throwing suspicion then that is not what was intended. I thought by giving the Clinto reference that would have indicated it is all sides.Theres a lot wrong with your post:
How is it unlikely Trump has done anything wreong? You know nothing just like everybody else in this thread, you are choosing to believe something just like those you are criticising.
Throwing dirt and suspicion is something only the 'left' do?
Where do you think wikileaks got that data then?
The difference between Russias attempt to influence vs Europe, Canada and Central & South Americas attempt to influence would be the exetent to which they apparently went to do so. Haven't heard much about European hacking or Candadian botnets, have you?
It seems that as unbiased as you may think you are being, you are acting just like everyone else, being influenced just like everyone else, biased just like everyone else. You just happen to be on the over side of the argument.
As for Wikileaks, you have Wiki leaks People saying not Russia and no evidence to counter that. Like you say I am not aware, but I don't see any reports saying Russia acquired and then gave Wiki leaks the info.
But do you really think people changed their voting behaviour because of the emails when there was so much to dislike about Trump. I don't buy it.
Oh dear. Chris Wallace now saying Trump wasn't happy with Spicer's suits.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ence-in-2016-election/?utm_term=.2b21b46f4e72
This was in March while he was still FBI Director. CIA is also reported to have the same assessment, and know who the Russian officials involved are.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-cyber-celebrate-idUSKBN14P2NI
Thankfully I am not a Yank, just live here. There seems to be so much outrage on here, whereas I live in a very big gay community, with an enormous illegal immigrant population, with a pretty equal split of left and right, and this topic does not seem high on their list of concerns. Very little hatred or fear between the differing ideologies. More worried about money and jobs than Russia.
Firing the FBI director is strange, but a big jump to say that is to stop the Russia investigation.
I'm dealing in facts, as in the Russians are proven to have launched an influence campaign to elect Trump and Mueller is investigating Trump, his campaign, and individuals around his campaign (like Manafort, Flynn, Kushner, Don Jr. etc.
They attempted to hack into voting systems, but even if they didn't succeed, the very act of launching an influence campaign through Wikileaks is tantamount to changing the opinions of independent voters based on false information with the intent to influence the outcome of the election. Either way to slice it, they interfered in the election and helped Trump win the election.
Mueller will definitely be looking into whether Kushner's work with Trump's data analytics team was used to funnel analytics to Russians who then provided it to the GRU's efforts to microtarget swing states.
Nice of you to repeat Kremlin talking points. I suppose this will be looked into by Mueller and it will be revealed there was coordination between both sides.
Well my friend, that's why we are in the early phases of an investigation. If there was nothing there then there would be no investigation in the first place. Clearly there is enough circumstantial evidence in existence to warrant the existence of a special prosecutor to look into it. What we do know is that everytime someone says there's nothing there or nothing has been proven, that yet more information emerges that discredits whoever said that as being full of shit.
Complete nonsense. To repeat, there is an active investigation with Mueller, who has the full power of the FBI at his disposal to look into what happened.
We all want it to be true, but that doesn't mean it isn't true. As said earlier, if there was truly nothing here then Trump wouldn't be behaving as he has. He would instead open up all the books, records, and meetings he's had, instead of preemptively looking into how he can pardon himself.
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What about the ties though?
Trumpski Corporation will have paid him off well or at least made it clear his relatives knee caps are fragile.
This is a topic in a larger forum, to talk about US politics. Of course you're going to get pretty much just people who are paying very close attention to the developments. The fact that other people aren't doesn't mean its of little relevance. Otherwise I could claim that because people don't pay close attention to the FOMC minutes and monthly payroll updates don't actually care about jobs/money either.
Spicer would basically be out of a job and Preibus was the one who brought Spicer to the WH.
High. Seems, Trump left Spicer out in decisions till last minute fearing leaks. So more juicy leaks would not surprise me.
Spicer will be on Hannity tonight.
Looks like they've made Spicer go on tonight to try to make out everything is fine and that this resignation was planned and say the media are overeacting.
Looks like they've made Spicer go on tonight to try to make out everything is fine and that this resignation was planned and say the media are overeacting.
This was my attitude until he fired Comey. Most of what has come out and been confirmed since then has only strengthened the suspicions against him. He's obviously trying to cover up something. I'm still very much open-minded on what that something is though.
So Spice has resigned and Trump asked his lawyers about pardons. This presidency is comedy gold!
Jeez.
Pretty much how I imagine the average non die-hard Trump voter to write and think:
He fired Comey? Ah, strange, but so what.
There seem to be ties between Russia and Wikileaks and between Russia and the Trump campaign? Ah, it's not proven, and the fact that there's a constant drip of newly discovered meetings, ties and interactions between the parties doesn't matter and doesn't give the claims any legitimacy.
He lost his Security advisor weeks into the presidency because of ties to Russia he didn't disclose? Who cares, I already forgot about that.
Also, look at Pence! He, as a right wing nutjob with a failed gouvernatoral career, would surely have done ANYTHING to stop some unfair dealings an thus ending his chances of becoming vice president!
Seriously, how dumb, blindfolded and ignorant do you have to be...
But hey, nothing has been proven!
Trump is on his knees to Putin because he is up to his teeth in hock to him.
The country is in danger. We will only know how much damage has been done after he leaves office.
An American President leaving his place paying homage to the gangster.
FFS
The country is in danger. We will only know how much damage has been done after he leaves office.
An American President leaving his place paying homage to the gangster.
FFS
Sean Spicer just phoned Dana Bash (CNN) and Scaramucci gave an interview to CNN about an hour ago too. So much for FOX being the preferred network and CNN being the fake news network. Dana said Sean didn't sound upset and actually sounded like the old Sean they used to know before he started working at the White House. His official reason for resigning is that he wanted to give Trump a clean slate and the chance to work from fresh. Apparently Trump told him he didn't want him to leave. It's difficult to judge when your only info is from a second hand conversation. It will be much easier to read his body language later when he's on Hannity. I do believe Dana though in that he seems relieved, that definitely rings true.
It's difficult to judge when your only info is from a second hand conversation. It will be much easier to read his body language later when he's on Hannity. I do believe Dana though in that he seems relieved, that definitely rings true.
Wait til SNL mocks Scaramucci, Drumpf will immediately keep him away from the cameras as he's done with Spicer.
Yeah the first week alone with him was great. Every administration should have a memorable spokesperson. The only chance Spicer has of fading into obscurity is for the Trump situation to normalise somewhat and for Trump to get a second term.
Which is kinda the point @SalfordRed1960 was trying to make. If you keep believing every tweet or news article as credible source you will only be led down a frustrating path.
He's basically repeating talking points that Trump surrogates on CNN make - there's no collusion. we've been investigating or 6 months and there's nothing etc. There is clearly something otherwise there would be no investigation or special prosecutor.
I was only referring to his point about taking tweets and news articles at face value. After the last election cycle, we should be wary of making that same mistake again.
It's bullshit thuough in regard to this thread. Left wing fake news like Louise Mensch has been consistently slapped and laughed upon here. So what he is doing is taking credible articles and claiming they are "fake news" we shouldn't believe in. That's the problem.
Constant staff changes is a theme you really should expect from trump. sociopaths trust no one, and assume everyone around them is trying to manipulate and control as much as they are. To overcome this they never keep anyone around long.
Its why the only people who stay around his businesses are family, and i'd take a bet he spies on them, a lot, anyway.
Its why the only people who stay around his businesses are family, and i'd take a bet he spies on them, a lot, anyway.
Presser started....
Just announced that Sarah Huckabee Sanders will be the Press Secretary.
Trump praising Spicer for his huge ratings.
This is the mafia, really.
The innermost circle are the family and close, long-time friends and confidants. The next ring are the politicians and pundits who came on board because they wanted to early on (people like Bannon, Hannity, Coulter, Conway, Huckabee, Sessions though he may have committed a mortal sin with the recusal).
And finally the outermost group are the ones who are in place mostly as a marriage of convenience. Ryan, McConnell, Spicer, Priebus, the new lawyers - they're in that last group and they're surely the most expendable. As we're seeing, they're the ones to go first and they're being replaced by more "inner-circle" types who have shown the most loyalty. It wouldn't surprise me to see someone like Rudy Giuliani come back into the fold after a long time on the sidelines.
The innermost circle are the family and close, long-time friends and confidants. The next ring are the politicians and pundits who came on board because they wanted to early on (people like Bannon, Hannity, Coulter, Conway, Huckabee, Sessions though he may have committed a mortal sin with the recusal).
And finally the outermost group are the ones who are in place mostly as a marriage of convenience. Ryan, McConnell, Spicer, Priebus, the new lawyers - they're in that last group and they're surely the most expendable. As we're seeing, they're the ones to go first and they're being replaced by more "inner-circle" types who have shown the most loyalty. It wouldn't surprise me to see someone like Rudy Giuliani come back into the fold after a long time on the sidelines.
Scaramucci saying he regrets making negative comments about Trump in 2015
"I love the president" - he's saying this a bit too much.
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