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Literally imagine the 19 other leaders explaining trade and climate issues to Trump like the FBI guys explaining Homer's new surname when they became The Thompson's.
 
Wow, I just heard Trump give a speech on the $50m investment the USA is giving towards his daughters entrepreneurs project and what an embarrassing word salad it was. He spoke after Chancellor Merkel and Prime Minister Trudeau which obviously made things a lot worse because they had spoken eloquently and articulately before Trump comes in with his size 12 Doc Martins and destroys the English language for the entire world to see and hear. Trump also couldn't go more than 5 minutes without patting himself on the back numerous times or constantly repeating himself like praising Merkel at least 5 times in a short 5 minute speech. Sickening, embarrassing, cringe inducing and everything you would expect from a Trump speech without an auto-cue. :lol:
 
:lol: I found it pretty funny.



More reports saying things aren't plain sailing after all and things really aren't going as well as many reports are saying. It was obvious that there would be arguments over trade and climate and #MAGA!

Not really a surprise, tbh. We know what Trump thinks about this issues.
 
:lol: I found it pretty funny.



More reports saying things aren't plain sailing after all and things really aren't going as well as many reports are saying. It was obvious that there would be arguments over trade and climate and #MAGA!


Looks like an intervention.
 
Why's the shit connected with Trump's visit/G20 in Hamburg not getting more attention?

The far left are going rampant on the streets, burning cars, attacking police officers and all that stuff.
 
Why's the shit connected with Trump's visit/G20 in Hamburg not getting more attention?

The far left are going rampant on the streets, burning cars, attacking police officers and all that stuff.
Because it is okay when the left is doing it. They have good intentions after all. :wenger: "welcome to hell"
 
Why's the shit connected with Trump's visit/G20 in Hamburg not getting more attention?

The far left are going rampant on the streets, burning cars, attacking police officers and all that stuff.

Because it is okay when the left is doing it. They have good intentions after all. :wenger: "welcome to hell"

https://www.rte.ie/news/europe/2017/0707/888442-hamburg-g20-protests/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40540359
https://www.thelocal.de/20170707/smoke-on-the-water-hamburg-under-siege-for-g20
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/07/g20-protests-hamburg-altona-messehalle

That took literally five seconds. What are you two on about?

And from another point of view, I would imagine you'd be complaining if the protests were dominating the coverage even more than it is, rather than policy discussion that's also getting closely covered.
 
Why's the shit connected with Trump's visit/G20 in Hamburg not getting more attention?

The far left are going rampant on the streets, burning cars, attacking police officers and all that stuff.

Just made a thread.
 
https://www.rte.ie/news/europe/2017/0707/888442-hamburg-g20-protests/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40540359
https://www.thelocal.de/20170707/smoke-on-the-water-hamburg-under-siege-for-g20
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/07/g20-protests-hamburg-altona-messehalle

That took literally five seconds. What are you two on about?

And from another point of view, I would imagine you'd be complaining if the protests were dominating the coverage even more than it is, rather than policy discussion that's also getting closely covered.

No, I wouldn't.
 
No, I wouldn't.

Well. Trump's lack of international nous, the various policy discussions and the riots are all getting loads of coverage. If you think these protests are egregious, then you should be happy that policy is the lead story on most news sites, i.e. don't give in to the rioters etc. There is no lack of coverage of the protests.

And I bet you would.
 
https://www.rte.ie/news/europe/2017/0707/888442-hamburg-g20-protests/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-40540359
https://www.thelocal.de/20170707/smoke-on-the-water-hamburg-under-siege-for-g20
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jul/07/g20-protests-hamburg-altona-messehalle

That took literally five seconds. What are you two on about?

And from another point of view, I would imagine you'd be complaining if the protests were dominating the coverage even more than it is, rather than policy discussion that's also getting closely covered.

Nothing about you. I am primarily annoyed by the handling of these kind of protests by the German media. Just que all the "violence is bad but....." from politicians, public figures and journalists. When the far right would show up with thousands of people and trash some neighborhoods, we'd rightfully panic. The left is doing it and major german publications act as their propaganda channel. That's pissing me off.
 
It actually isn't. Just as Huntington's Clash of Civilizations isn't a thing. It's a perception illusion used by people to vilify one side and promote the other.

I'm sure south Asians find it useful to "other" Europeans and Americans to support whatever argument they are making, but its hard referenced in places like Europe and America.
agree with this. the propaganda works with those who have divisive agendas to fuel.
 
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So Trump keeps promising he will visit London, but won't tell us when? The tease.

PM May better be careful what she wishes for, because any Trump London visit will be will attract the entire of Europe's thuggery, some of whom are currently assembled in Hamburg, and London will be in for a torrid time.

Will most likely be her 'poll tax' moment, being forced out of Government which riot scenes as her final epitaph.
 
It actually isn't. Just as Huntington's Clash of Civilizations isn't a thing. It's a perception illusion used by people to vilify one side and promote the other.

I'm sure south Asians find it useful to "other" Europeans and Americans to support whatever argument they are making, but its hard referenced in places like Europe and America.

The West as a concept originates in the West. It's derived from the medieval idea of Christendom, ostensibly stripped of its religious significance and instead 'secularised' and pushed on to the rest of the world as a civilizational distinction during colonial times. The use made of it by non-Westerners is a result of this (similarly, the idea of a distinct Islamic civilisation was not invented in The West - despite what this interesting but flawed recent book argues - and concepts such as umma and dar al-Islam originate from the Islamic tradition - this great article makes the case for Islam as a distinctive world system).

These concepts exist and continue to have relevance because people believe they do, because people identify certain historical legacies, religious heritages, and ethical values with them. Where Huntington went wrong wasn't in identifying that such civilisations exist - it was in downplaying the conflicts that tend to play out within these civilisations over questions of history, religion, and values (see for example The West 1914-1945) in favour of emphasising conflicts between them, in assuming clear lines can be drawn between the various civilisations (see the maps in the book), and in emphasising the pull civilisations have on our collective loyalties over alternative draws such as the nation-state, the tribe, the sectarian group, the linguistic group, etc.
 
agree with this. the propaganda works with those who have divisive agendas to fuel.

Yes and people who casually use the term are generally falling for Huntington's nonsense. A better way to approach things would be to analyze issues at the state level or in terms of mutual rules, norms, and interests - which isn't a concept that can be myopically constrained to a particular geographic area.
 
And how you call antifa and the rest of this shit?

I think labels are stupid to describe a group of people if you don't know the dynamics of the group. Not because they're protesting means they should be labeled as left or right. It's why no one could have a freaking civilized debate anymore without the name calling. Let's focus on the real issue like how Trump's policies are regressive to America.
 
He as been complaining of being tired. And i thought Hillary never had the stamina to be President
 
I think labels are stupid to describe a group of people if you don't know the dynamics of the group. Not because they're protesting means they should be labeled as left or right. It's why no one could have a freaking civilized debate anymore without the name calling.

They are a movement originated from the German Communist Party in the 1930s. It's not unfair to call their political affiliation under the current dichotomy far-left.
 
Nothing about you. I am primarily annoyed by the handling of these kind of protests by the German media. Just que all the "violence is bad but....." from politicians, public figures and journalists. When the far right would show up with thousands of people and trash some neighborhoods, we'd rightfully panic. The left is doing it and major german publications act as their propaganda channel. That's pissing me off.

Fair enough, I don't have access to that because I don't speak German.
 
Why's the shit connected with Trump's visit/G20 in Hamburg not getting more attention?

The far left are going rampant on the streets, burning cars, attacking police officers and all that stuff.

The violence is nothing to do with Trump attending the summit. The violence happens at the majority of these summits.
 
I think labels are stupid to describe a group of people if you don't know the dynamics of the group. Not because they're protesting means they should be labeled as left or right. It's why no one could have a freaking civilized debate anymore without the name calling.

It's them who label themselves Antifa, those shit cnuts have been to Poland interrupting our Indep Day marches back when our government was a fecking abomination. Yes, those who burn shit today in Hamburg are the far-left ones, hate it or love it, if people mindlessly join them without a proper clue who they are joining then I don't see a problem in throwing them into the same bag.

The violence is nothing to do with Trump attending the summit. The violence happens at the majority of these summits.

One of the reasons those morons 'protest' today is precisely presence of Trump and Putin in their country.
 
Ivanka Trump takes Donald Trump seat at G20 leaders' table

She'll running for president at some point. I bet he wants to build a dynasty and sees it as a business to keep control of.

Yup, exactly what I said the first week of his Presidency. I think she would be a half decent bet for first female President of the USA, although I doubt you would get great odds anymore.

In the eyes of most Republicans...this is quite okay. I wonder what would have happened if Michelle took Obama's seat at a G20 summit?

#hypocrites

Doesn't warrant thinking about mate. She endured far worse insults than Trump ever has. Obviously that is all forgotten now though and Trumpy Wumpy has suffered like no other before him. #Hypocrites doesn't even come close.
 
Yup, exactly what I said the first week of his Presidency. I think she would be a half decent bet for first female President of the USA, although I doubt you would get great odds anymore.



Doesn't warrant thinking about mate. She endured far worse insults than Trump ever has. Obviously that is all forgotten now though and Trumpy Wumpy has suffered like no other before him. #Hypocrites doesn't even come close.

Another incentive to get him impeached. No impeachment and she enters a future campaign as the daughter of a guy who, albeit controversial, saw out his tenure as the darling of regressive America. They can keep claiming it was all conjecture and "liberal" America will struggle to live down having thrown so much shit that didn't stick. Get him officially disgraced and we can rest easy on that front.
 
Another incentive to get him impeached. No impeachment and she enters a future campaign as the daughter of a guy who, albeit controversial, saw out his tenure as the darling of regressive America. They can keep claiming it was all conjecture and "liberal" America will struggle to live down having thrown so much shit that didn't stick. Get him officially disgraced and we can rest easy on that front.

Just imagine 8 years of Trump and then Ivanka becoming the Republican nominee in 2024 :nervous:
 
Another incentive to get him impeached. No impeachment and she enters a future campaign as the daughter of a guy who, albeit controversial, saw out his tenure as the darling of regressive America. They can keep claiming it was all conjecture and "liberal" America will struggle to live down having thrown so much shit that didn't stick. Get him officially disgraced and we can rest easy on that front.

Agreed 100% I think that could be one of the most important reasons for impeachment. Let's not forget his two feckwitted sons, Don Jr in particular. He's just as outspoken, opinionated and as arrogant and narcissistic as his father. I guarantee he has his sights on a future run for the White House. Obviously Ivanka would too, and as mentioned she would probably run as a Democrat, but I wouldn't trust her to be honest. If she had anything about her she would have come out and condemned her father rather than back him and continuously make excuses for him. This is one dynasty that needs to be nipped in the bud sharpish otherwise they could be the USA's equivalent of the Jon-Un's.

What a terrifying thought that is :lol:
 
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