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Will Spurs finish in top 4 in the upcoming season?

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We've done really well to amass 36 points at this point because at no stage this season have we been really at it, I hope this is a positive sign that we've learned how to grind out some points.

36 points with one game to go before the season half-way point. If we can beat Watford away, that will make it 39 points with 19 games left, which would keep us on track for 78 points in total.

We have more points than we did at this stage last season, with a significantly easier set of fixtures for the 2nd half of the season (compared to the 1st half of this season) ... so we could even get more than 78 points.
 
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You must not have seen this from earlier:

The team with the most yellow cards this season? Man. Utd (43). Spurs rank 12th (35).
The team the most red cards this season? Man. City (3). Spurs have none.

We aren't a dirty side in any sense of the word, we are quite a physical side but what the hell is wrong with that, all the best sides can turn to their physical side when required.
 
36 points with one game to go before the season half-way point. If we can beat Watford away, that will make it 39 points with 19 games left, which would keeps us on track for 78 points in total.

We have more points than we did at this stage last season, with a significantly easier set of fixtures for the 2nd half of the season (compared to the 1st half of this season) ... so we could even get more than 78 points.

I'd take 78 right now, we would be very unlucky if that doesn't get top 4. With the EL we have a tough second half of the season, if we are within striking distance after Feb 11th I will feel good because out of the top 6 we will only have Arsenal and Utd left, both at home.
 
We aren't a dirty side in any sense of the word, we are quite a physical side but what the hell is wrong with that, all the best sides can turn to their physical side when required.
It's because we're bigger and stronger than last year. When refs see Pogba or Ibra take someone down they are more likely to give a yellow card than if Pogba was taken down. There are loads of times this year already when Pogba has had a yellow card worthy foul on him but it's ignored by the ref because he's big and strong which apparently makes him immune to fouls.

Add to that, the stronger mentality instilled by Mourinho this year.
 
Yeah and can you believe Chelsea got fined more than dirty spurs in that match? Disgraceful.

Dirty team, I like them less every time i watch them.

Comments like this make me happy as there's no more proof needed that we are moving in the right direction.

The more we get under people's skin the likely the better we are doing.
 
Comments like this make me happy as there's no more proof needed that we are moving in the right direction.

The more we get under people's skin the likely the better we are doing.
Fair enough. And Alli is developing in a way other English youngsters haven't been. Specifically Barkley, who was terrible against pool, the Arsenal core, and Sterling (despite a promising mini-resurgence under pep) who have all stalled. Dier also looks good.

Pochetino can do good things. But I hope he cuts out some of the nastiness.
 
Comments like this make me happy as there's no more proof needed that we are moving in the right direction.

The more we get under people's skin the likely the better we are doing.
Many people on the Caf have a certain disdain towards Spurs primarily because of Glaston.
 
It is actually true though. There's a video where he's visibly celebrating one of their goals.


Not sure about any decisions last night mind, haven't watched it over yet.
Not really though.

There's many videos of referees "celebrating" a goal after giving an advantage and quite a few are Mike Dean because he's so ridiculously flamboyant when he makes a decision it borders on petulance when he refs games.
 
Not really though.

There's many videos of referees "celebrating" a goal after giving an advantage and quite a few are Mike Dean because he's so ridiculously flamboyant when he makes a decision it borders on petulance when he refs games.
I was only being half serious. I don't actually think he's a Spurs fan, I just don't like Mike Dean.
 
I was only being half serious. I don't actually think he's a Spurs fan, I just don't like Mike Dean.
As a Spurs fan neither do I.

He's an absolute egotistical knob who gets more decisions wrong than right.

Regardless of whether people seem to think he's a Spurs fan or not he messes up plenty of decisions that go against us. I really can't stand to see him ref our games because then I know it's going to be a mess.
 
Mike Dean last 7 spurs games:

6 Wins
1 Draw
0 Losses

5 Penalties awarded for Spurs
3 Red cards given to opposition

In top form.
 
Yeah and can you believe Chelsea got fined more than dirty spurs in that match? Disgraceful.

Dirty team, I like them less every time i watch them.
I'm not against showing grit and fight. It's something i would like to see more often at Arsenal. The problem is their dirtiness.
 
I don't your style of play. It's my opinion. You can't like our style of play and i don't bother. Everyone has his opinion.

It's an opinion that seems to be consuming you, lol.

As for Arsenal I have no opinion on their style of play, it's of no interest to me.
 
Hope this is true:

"Tottenham have finalised a deal with Nike to become their new kit supplier from next season, sources have told ESPN FC.

The club's five-year deal with Under Amour, worth £50 million total, ends at the end of this season and the sources said the deal with Nike is worth roughly three times that."
 
Hope this is true:

"Tottenham have finalised a deal with Nike to become their new kit supplier from next season, sources have told ESPN FC.

The club's five-year deal with Under Amour, worth £50 million total, ends at the end of this season and the sources said the deal with Nike is worth roughly three times that."

that's just so that Nike can shift Kane over to United and get more shirt sales
 
Very well run outfit to be fair. They should aim to be top dogs in London over next 5 years. Manage that and they'll be in a great position to compete for the elite players.
They're certainly going about it the right way. They need to keep pochettino out of the reach of the big Spanish clubs though.
 
Very well run outfit to be fair. They should aim to be top dogs in London over next 5 years. Manage that and they'll be in a great position to compete for the elite players.
They're certainly going about it the right way. They need to keep pochettino out of the reach of the big Spanish clubs though.

What do you mean by this exactly?
 
We aren't a dirty side in any sense of the word, we are quite a physical side but what the hell is wrong with that, all the best sides can turn to their physical side when required.
I don't remember a team being as dirty as you were against Chelsea.

Other than that, I would agree. Don't know what happened in that match though.
 
I don't remember a team being as dirty as you were against Chelsea.

Other than that, I would agree. Don't know what happened in that match though.

The game boiled over, it happens every now and then.
 
The biggest club in London. With new stadium and revenues they won't be far off.
They are and they will. The only way to overtake arsenal and chelsea is to consistently outperform them for a number of years. New stadium will help, but the big difference in money comes from sponsorships, and the only way to compete there is to attract new fans worldwide.
 
They are and they will. The only way to overtake arsenal and chelsea is to consistently outperform them for a number of years. New stadium will help, but the big difference in money comes from sponsorships, and the only way to compete there is to attract new fans worldwide.

It's not the only way to compete as Chelsea and Man City have proven, fan bases have come afterwards. Pre Harding Chelsea didn't have fans anywhere outside of various Kent caravan parks.

But you are right, in that success does attract glory hunting tv club followers from largely Asia and Africa who will buy shirts and other club merchandise. These followers aren't going to choose to follow an Everton, Palace or Spurs, as previously they didn't choose to follow City or Chelsea. Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool are popular with the followers because when the game went global through international TV deals and the Internet they were the most successful sides domestically and in Europe at that time. As you say this all makes perfect sense to the sponsors etc.

But there are other ways, it will be interesting to see what the NPDP brings into Spurs in the long run and also where and to what value Spurs relationship with the NFL goes over the next 5-10 years. If in addition the club can become more regular participants in the CL at the expense of one of the over 2 the financial gap will close considerably.

Finally if there are any megamoney buyers out there, Spurs could be the most attractive proposition of the London clubs, we have already been linked with insanely wealthy groups from the Middle East and China. Personally this is something I would hate to see and indeed dread. I don't want Spurs turning into a City or Chelsea, the club I hope is morally much more valuable than that, but I fear that it will happen within the next 5 years, especially given how old Lewis is.

One thing is for certain, the gap will at least close, by how much or if it goes further than that remains to be seen.
 
It's not the only way to compete as Chelsea and Man City have proven, fan bases have come afterwards. Pre Harding Chelsea didn't have fans anywhere outside of various Kent caravan parks.
Chelsea began before globalization really took over football. City grew because of their ownership, then managed to consolidate their position thanks to two league titles and players like aguero, yaya, silva, etc. City are still relying on heavily on their owner's sponsorship. They wouldn't be as rich without etihad, and it still took them years before they could compete financially with their own means.

There's also the fact that spurs will have more teams to compete with in the global market than chelsea and city did, as far as english teams are concerned.

Also, liverpool being so far behind arsenal, chelsea amd city is absolutely mental. Really goes to show the sheer incompetence of the people who ran the club for the past 10-15 years
 
Chelsea began before globalization really took over football. City grew because of their ownership, then managed to consolidate their position thanks to two league titles and players like aguero, yaya, silva, etc. City are still relying on heavily on their owner's sponsorship. They wouldn't be as rich without etihad, and it still took them years before they could compete financially with their own means.

There's also the fact that spurs will have more teams to compete with in the global market than chelsea and city did, as far as english teams are concerned.

Also, liverpool being so far behind arsenal, chelsea amd city is absolutely mental. Really goes to show the sheer incompetence of the people who ran the club for the past 10-15 years

I largely agree with you, sponsorships are extremely important and both City and Chelsea still rely heavily on their owners, Chelsea are the best part of £1 billion in debt to Abramovich.

I also agree on Liverpool, the ownership issues there over the recent past have massively held them back.
 
At the league halfway point under Pochettino, steady year-on-year improvement:

2016 39 points (4th) GF37 GA14
2015 35 points (4th) GF33 GA15
2014 31 points (7th) GF24 GA24
 
At the league halfway point under Pochettino, steady year-on-year improvement:

2016 39 points (4th) GF37 GA14
2015 35 points (4th) GF33 GA15
2014 31 points (7th) GF24 GA24

You guys looked pretty good today...
I know Watford were terrible but take nothing away from you guys..
 
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