I think he would be a much better signing for them than Barkley.
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I think he would be a much better signing for them than Barkley.
I wouldnt touch Mahrez with a barge pole personally. Barkley could come good under the right coach so if he came to Spurs I think I would be happy enough.
"Marquee signings" is a red herring.
The fact is Spurs are the sixth richest club in the league so if we're going for big name marquee signings we would only be sixth down the list after everyone else passes on the player. Do you know what getting the sixth best player gets you? Sixth place.
We have a model in place that is working incredibly well and we need to continue with the model that has done well for clubs elsewhere like Dortmund, Atletico, Monaco, etc. to have sustained success.
This whole "marquee signings"/"statement of intent" nonsense is just a banal platitude spouted by the press and now fans even though it's not a proven method. Especially for Spurs. Who in the starting XI was a "marquee signing"? The fact is we have made steady improvements year after year singing young players like Alli and undervalued players like Wanyama and should continue to do so.
For Spurs to grow securing CL-football is more important than winning the FA Cup or a League Cup.
What success is that, exactly? You have to win something in order to be successful. Dems da rules
How long will United be in transition? You have to remember that, given the circumstances, this was no ordinary transition. We had just lost a manager who had turned our club from one of midtable mediocrity in to one of the best teams on the planet single handed. Replacing him was impossible, there was no one out there capable of reaching the standards set by their predecessor. It was a poision chalice whoever took over the job, but none of us quite expected Moyes and LVG to fail as dramatically as they did. They practically dismantled the club from within and left us in a desperate situation, one that all associated with the club were entirely unfamiliar with. Moyes was a mistakle, LVG simply failed to meet expectation but finally, in Jose Mourinho, we have a natural born winner who will lead us back to the top. He should have followed Fergie, had that been the case I feel the transition would have ran far smoother. Hindisght. That said, I do believe that under Jose we have made significant strides in getting back to where we belong, indeed had our chance conversion rate equalled that of our chance creation rate we could have won the league, at the very least we would have pushed Chelsea all the way. Again, hindsight.
With 3-4 classy additions to the squad over the summer - a striker, DM, CB and a winger - along with a vastly improved converstion rate, we will be challlenging next season. In fact I think we're going to win it.
I agree with most of what you say, I mean our success in relative terms. I totally agree we need to win something mafor next season. I'm pretty sure most teams would want their goals scored rate to equal their chance creation rate. We would have won the title easily if we had.
You won't win the league next season that I am pretty sure about, you should definitely be challenging though. I think it could be a very frustrating transfer window for yourselves, Arsenal, City (we have already seen) and Chelsea will all be after big name signings.
If Jose can identify and secure the correct targets in the positions we require, I will be expecting us to win the title outright next season. I'm confident the board and Jose himself will feel the same way. To feel anything less will show a severe lack of ambition on their part.
On the conversion rate, yeah I'm sure they would, perhaps I should have clarified that point a little better. There are stats on the internet that could explain it better than myself, but I'm unable to find any right now. Long story short, United's conversion rate was the lowest it had been in decades - around 9% or something like that - and was ultimately the defining factor in our poor finish in the league. We drew something like 11 games at home and aside from the City game, in which we were thoroughly outplayed and deservedly lost, we should have won them all. Comfortably. It was, for me at least, the most frustrating season in front of goal in living memory. Jose must have been tearing his hair out.
Spurs do need to win something next season, that is a given, but first and foremost they need to retain their current personnel. I'm sure for Levy and the Spurs hierarchy this will be the number one priority, even before shelling out the cash to bring in a few upgrades/squad players. I feel the main issue with Spurs is their lack of squad depth. That depth throughout the squad is absolutely essential if you plan to make and sustain a worthy title challenge. Poch will know this and I'm sure he will plan to invest. It's a big summer for Spurs and their ambitions, retaining their key players from the last couple seasons, and purchasing those squad players who can not only do a job when required, but do it to a standard expected of a title challenging team. Poch has his work cut out
There is a small part of me (the underdog) that would enjoy seeing Spurs shoe away the fat cats who come calling for their players. Then again I want to see Alli and Kane lining up for United next season, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see what happens
I pretty much agree with all of this. Great post.
Great post but still think with the number of players gelling in, Zlatans injury and the possible departure DDG the title will be a push. Would you be looking to push on in the CL also? Next year the PL will be its most competitive ever IMO. The world series best managers/coaches all coming into their second season. Really looking forward to it!!
The main reason for getting into the CL was the added incentive it gives to Jose's transfer targets, but in terms of actually winning it, well that would be a huge stretch given the circumstances. Nah, the vast majority of United fans will be content with a title push - at least the pragmatic ones among us - anything beyond that would be a bonus.
Actually I am looking forward to next season, the standard of the league in terms of depth has never been stronger in my opinion and the expectation is higher than ever. Pep and Jose will be required to deliver the goods, anything short of a serious title challenge will see the back of them both I'd imagine.
Who are Spurs looking to sign this summer? Haven't read many rumors related to them, apart from Lemar one.
Pereira as RB is what I've heard. 20mil off I think. Top talent too
Lots of rumours but no clue really. The leaks that you could have relied on over the years at Spurs have all been shored up. Unlikely to know what is happening until you see an announcement on the website.
I'm expecting another quiet window, relative to other clubs. We'll likely continue with the same policy: rely on continuity/squad stability + more coaching time under Pochettino + bring one or two more youth/academy players into (or further into) the first team squad + rely on the likely natural improvement of a young squad due to accumulating experience.
If Walker is sold, which seems quite likely, then the cash could be splashed on someone like Lemar, plus another RB to compete with Trippier would seem sensible.
Oh, and maybe a prospect from elsewhere too - Sessegnon perhaps.
If Walker is sold, which seems quite likely, then the cash could be splashed on someone like Lemar, plus another RB to compete with Trippier would seem sensible.
Oh, and maybe a prospect from elsewhere too - Sessegnon perhaps.
Yep Spurs really don't need to buy any first team players, it's already solid as feck. Perhaps also a replacement for Sissoko who surely should be quietly shipped off.
The most believable rumours are Barkley, Sessegnon, Ginter, Under, Pereira. Nothing too flashy really except Lemar who I'd love to sign but I have major reservations on our ability to land him.
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Sessegnon seems more than likely since the reason he gave for turning down Liverpool was he didn't want to move away from London and his family/friends at his young age.
Lemar seems highly unlikely considering the other suitors he'll have/has.
I find it difficult to see Spurs contending for the most desirable players, or current stars shall we say. Rather they are in Liverpool's shoes and looking at players one step down.
However you don't need to, you need to hang on to what you have and throw your whole budget at just a couple of positions.
You don't need Barkley .. nobody in the Top 6 needs Barkley.
Yes, for any new players that we're seeking. But we're not so much in the market for new players compared to Liverpool, being content to stick more with what we have and look to develop those players further.
I'd take him at Spurs if the price was reasonable, considering his contract situation. I think that Poch would look to use him in a deeper role as CM competition for Dembele and Winks ... and would trust our manager to improve him.
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