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Will Spurs finish in top 4 in the upcoming season?

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Be better if we featured earlier in this list.

They are woeful at the moment but wouldn't be surprised if they've turned it around by the time we face them.
They look tired, don't think their squad can handle so many games - we have them after a CL game, if they're still in contention then they shouldn't be in great shape.
 
Yeah, they are just not ready yet for the CL.

It's a typical result for an English team in Europe over the last few years.
They got really lucky with the group draw. They got the lowest seeded team from pot one and two.
 
Absolutely appalling performance from start to finish. We seemed determined to play the whole game in our own last third until we gave the ball away and we did it again and again and again.

Too many players starting to think that they are better than what they are, we need to get back to the basic element of working hard and building off if the back of that.

We aren't scoring goals simply because we aren't attacking games or teams, we need a full on change to our current mindset because it's killing us.
 
Absolutely appalling performance from start to finish. We seemed determined to play the whole game in our own last third until we gave the ball away and we did it again and again and again.

Too many players starting to think that they are better than what they are, we need to get back to the basic element of working hard and building off if the back of that.

We aren't scoring goals simply because we aren't attacking games or teams, we need a full on change to our current mindset because it's killing us.
If you could go ahead and hold onto to the current mindset until Monday that would be greeeaaattttt.

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Spurs fans will continue to deny it but it is becoming clear now that the summer window was a massive missed opportunity.
 
It's a typical result for an English team in Europe over the last few years.
They got really lucky with the group draw. They got the lowest seeded team from pot one and two.
Tougher group to get through than Arsenal or Leicester's to be fair.
 
Tougher group to get through than Arsenal or Leicester's to be fair.

They got shafted with Monaco-a pot 4 team alright. So it was a tougher group.

Still if they done a bit better in the Europa league over the last few years they would have been Pot 2.

That's the worst of not trying your best in the Europa league. You can end up in Pot 3 when you make the CL and face a uphill battle.
 
I've always seen him as a keeper who is a bit hit or miss. He can make a fantastic save and keep you in a game but at the same time I think he's got an error in him.
Disagree. I think he is a top keeper, third best in the PL but only because De Gea and Cech set the bar for top 2 so high. Every keeper is bound to make some mistakes even Degea, Cech and Neuer.
 
Disagree. I think he is a top keeper, third best in the PL but only because De Gea and Cech set the bar for top 2 so high. Every keeper is bound to make some mistakes even Degea, Cech and Neuer.

What about Courtois?
 
Said this earlier in the season. They missed the trick in the summer transfer window. They should have looked to upgrade one or two of their players rather than getting more depth at CM.

Also, it seems that are mentally fatigued since winning against city. That performance probably took a lot out of them.
 
Blame Levy. Aside from Kane they lack top of the line talent. Would any of Alli, Lamela, Sissoko, Eriksen or N'Kodou get into any of the other Top 6 teams?

Eriksen is quite handy but wouldn't start over Ozil, Hazard or KDB/Silva. IMO he's easily good enough to get into United's side over players like Mata and Lingard.

The rest would be squad players at best.
 
Disagree. I think he is a top keeper, third best in the PL but only because De Gea and Cech set the bar for top 2 so high. Every keeper is bound to make some mistakes even Degea, Cech and Neuer.
I think that De Gea is head and shoulders above the rest of the keepers in the league. Other than De Gea I don't think the quality of goal keepers is amazing. I wouldn't class Lloris in the same bracket as De Gea, Cech and Neuer personally, probably in the tier below that. If he was playing in goal for a team that isn't as strong defensively as Spurs are, I think we'd see that he's not a top quality keeper.
 
Missing several key players and its showing

We are missing Kane and Alderweireld, Rose wasn't selected and Lamela certainly isn't irreplaceable.

The truth is we aren't playing with any aggression or purpose, we are playing far too deep and with an arrogance beyond our abilities.

This isn't about injuries, more than anything it's about mindset and attitude and until we switch our mentality back to aggression and plain hard work we will continue with this poor form. We've only played well twice all season plus 70 minutes at Middlesboro, the rest has been below our standards.
 
Doesn't anyone rate Alderweireld? I think he's one of the best CB's in the league, maybe even top three.
 
Doesn't anyone rate Alderweireld? I think he's one of the best CB's in the league, maybe even top three.

Top 3? I'd love to know who the 2 CB's in this league are who are better than Alderweireld?

He's head and shoulders above any other CB playing in the PL at the moment.
 
Top 3? I'd love to know who the 2 CB's in this league are who are better than Alderweireld?

He's head and shoulders above any other CB playing in the PL at the moment.
There's an argument that Koscielny is better than Alderweireld possibly but I'd say that Alderweireld is the best CB in the league. I only brought it up because someone said that Kane was the only top line talent they had, but I think Alderweireld would get into any Premier League sides back four.
 
There's an argument that Koscielny is better than Alderweireld possibly but I'd say that Alderweireld is the best CB in the league. I only brought it up because someone said that Kane was the only top line talent they had, but I think Alderweireld would get into any Premier League sides back four.

We probably have 3 top players of which Alderweireld is the best, he would walk into any team in this league and improve them. As for Koscielny he's a good CB.
 
My Dad was a Spurs fan so I like it when they do well, he would have been so chuffed at them being in the champions league.
 
Lloris
Aderweireld
Vertonghen
Dembele
Alli
Eriksen
Kane

They'd all walk into the majority of sides in England.

Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Dembele and Kane would walk into our side.
 
Eriksen is quite handy but wouldn't start over Ozil, Hazard or KDB/Silva. IMO he's easily good enough to get into United's side over players like Mata and Lingard.

The rest would be squad players at best.
Mata's top level is higher. Eriksen works hard but I'd choose Mata over him every time.
 
I think the fact we are playing so well without 2 of our absolutely key players from last season (Kane and Dembele) proves that we now have the strength in depth in our squad that was lacking last season. You may not view Arsenal as last season's title challengers but I think most people would see a team that finished 2nd as a title challenging team - no idea what you are on about there.

We had no CL football to deal with last season but we did have EL football - also we just played in Moscow last week (and won) then came back and faced the most highly rated team in the Premiership and beat them, so far so good I'd say.

I can't deny that we did fall apart at the end of last season but I put that down to our team having a lot of young and relatively inexperienced players. Fingers crossed we have learnt from that. I think we have got over last season's disappointment already though and we look more confident as a result.

You're Spurs. And thus, you will always Spurs it.

You'll soon be back in the EL again, where you'll also Spurs it.
 
Mata's top level is higher. Eriksen works hard but I'd choose Mata over him every time.

I agree, but we haven't seen Mata's top level for years. Eriksen has been a better performer for a while IMO, not that there is much in it.
 
Spurs were really poor yesterday. Especially Walker and Sissoko standouts, Dier was rubbish too. Is it Kane or Alderweireld that they've been missing more?
 
Spurs haven't scored a goal in open play in 450 mins and also haven't won a game in last 6.
 
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