It's more the case that we don't currently have much spare money to compete on price/wages with other clubs. The 'clout' comment is silly seeing as Spurs are a club that have signed Modric, Bale, Alli, Eriksen, Lloris, Alderweireld, Lamela and more in recent seasons ... unless you regard none of these as highly rated youngsters or established players at the time they were signed.
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It's more the case that we don't currently have much spare money to compete on price/wages with other clubs. The 'clout' comment is silly seeing as Spurs are a club that have signed Modric, Bale, Alli, Eriksen, Lloris, Alderweireld, Lamela and more in recent seasons ... unless you regard none of these as highly rated youngsters or established players at the time they were signed.
Top young players are now going for mega money. Look at what City just paid for Sane and Stones. Those players above cost nowhere near that.
Spurs have a decent squad and give the new stadium probably can't spend the money other top clubs can on players as it stands.
Didn't I already say that Spurs don't currently have much spare money? So a current lack of financial clout yes. But that doesn't stop Spurs from being an attractive club for talented young prospects, not least because of our track record in giving young players a good chance to establish themselves in the first XI.
You say that "Top young players are now going for mega money". I would correct this by saying some top young players, but the pool of potential talent is wider than just those bought by wealthy clubs. And if the likes of Dier and Alli cost nowhere near what City paid for Stones and Sane, then that just goes to illustrate my point.
Alli is the most overrated youngster in the world.
I'm just going to assume that's bait.
Is it unfair though? It happens with every young player that breaks through. Opp fans said same about Ramsey and Sterling during their breakout years. Alli has to prove consistency to get rated higher
It's as if us Spurs fans have never heard this stuff before.
We're all sitting here prepared for Kane to be the first ever "three season wonder".
Mate, you're going a little berserk over semantics.
The only reason Ramsey didn't improve upon that 13/14 season was because of injury and not any other reason.
He along with Jack Wilshere, Oxlade Chamberlain and Callum Chambers are the most talented youngsters in Britain.
Of course they are.
I didn't say it did - but it's a moot point if another club is prepared to pay mega money for said player and Spurs can't.
You get awfully defensive on here as if everyone is having a dig. There will, of course be other talented young players out there that the other top clubs will not target although I suspect many of the top PL clubs are frequently looking at the same players. As it stands most PL clubs could now compete with most other clubs anyway.
It's also the case I suspect that in. League where Watford can turn down near £80 million for two half decent forwards, the vast majority of clubs either in the lower leagues or in Europe will demand much bigger fees for their young players. The next Alli will, I suspect cost more than he did.
Spurs have an admirable record with young players, as do other clubs - United included. The money on offer though makes a lot more PL teams a lot more attractive to potential recruits.
Marcus Rashford isn't then?
Ramsay's 25, Wilshere is 24 at some point you have to stop referring to players that continually get injured and never play enough games as youngsters.
That and the fact the those 4 aren't the most talented players in Britain.
The guy listing all Arsenal players in a Spurs thread is obviously on a piss take.
He listed two guys who never play because they're always injured and another who doesn't play because he's not good enough for crying out loud.
No bias towards Arsenal in your post at least!
Sounds a bit like Fergie's 'no value in the market' statement a few years ago, which translates as 'we don't have much cash to spend'.
Yeah well it's common knowledge that Spurs do not have much cash to spend right now, nor will we for a few seasons until the stadium is built. We have the money available if the right player comes along at the right price but the days of 'panic buys' and a scatter gun approach to recruitment are long gone and I'm very happy about that.
I'd rather build a settled team who can grow and develop together the go back to the days of old which were less than successful.
Not true. Wenger has said the same and we know Arsenal have a shed load of cash if they want to spend it. Also, on what planet in the last 20 years did Man Utd have "not much cash to spend"? What Poch said is true, which of spurs players could be significantly upgraded without paying silly money way over the top of what the player is really worth? When players like Stones are bought for circa 50 million and isn't anywhere near as good as Alderweireld, Koscielny, Kompany etc it shows what clubs are up against to improve at a sensible cost.
United showed definite symptoms of not having much cash to spend in the 'no value in the market' Fergie days. Didn't last too long but we were definitely limited for a while back then, not that any official club rep would actually admit it.
I agree you'd probably have to spend silly money if you had to buy from a Premier league team, but you can get away without spending silly money if you raid Europe or a lower league club.
Wenger has his own weird reasons for never wanting to splash massive cash. Spurs are obviously limited when it comes to transfer funds right now but maybe they can get away with it because of an improving young squad. I doubt they will get away with it but you never know.
Why is Dembélé banned?
Because he had a punch-up with Costa in the Chelsea-Spurs game near end of season. He got a 6 game ban
so banned for another 4 games.
Thanks, I missed the suspensions after that game.
How the rest of the imaginary 'ard men at Tottenham didn't get suspended for the shitshow that Spurs - Chelsea was is a miracle. If it was a United - Liverpool match we would have had problems fielding 11 players for our opener against Bournemouth.
So all the Chelsea players were innocent then were they?
No. But the Spurs players just took it a notch further.
Maybe, but there was some provocation going on. Half the Chelsea team had publicly declared before the game that they wanted to stop spurs winning the league and some of them didn't care how they did it.
You can hardly complain considering you dodged about three or four 3 match bans in that game.
Reminded me of a worse version of Arsenal versus United after the Evra "boys against men" comment.
It was a weird affair where they got charged more money in fines, but we had a player suspended.
Personally as a Spurs supporter I hope Dembele wrote in a letter after the suspension was handed down that read, "I'd do it again."
It was mostly handbags at dawn for both sides - Dembele got caught on camera trying to eye gouge somebody and was rightly banned for 6 matches.
Again, maybe, but if that's the case then a couple of the Chelsea players should have had bans as well. It's time somebody put the boot in on Costa, he spends more time looking for fights than he does playing football.
The guy listing all Arsenal players in a Spurs thread is obviously on a piss take.
He listed two guys who never play because they're always injured and another who doesn't play because he's not good enough for crying out loud.
And at least two of those players would have been better if they hadn't joined Arsenal. Maybe all three.
Kane proved he wasn't a one season wonder. Alli has yet to prove that. No need to get so defensive just because you have a young player that hasn't proven himself consistently.So far Alli hasn't shown he is better than Ramsey. If Alli builds on last year then perhaps he will show that in the future, but he is not there yet.
Does every young player who, after having their first great season, still need to prove that they're not just a one-season wonder?
The 'Poch' getting in excuses for doing shit early. Winning material.
Eh? What excuses would those be?
Calling everyone else out for spending money
He said that these other teams are doing so out of desperation, and that he is very happy with his players: "... very difficult to find better players than we have."
I'd say that's the opposite of an excuse - he's very happy with his squad, whilst the other managers have not been happy with theirs.
Fair demand for a player of his ability. spurs will have to give him the money or risk losing him on a cut price deal next summer.
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