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Will Spurs finish in top 4 in the upcoming season?

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Burrow said:
I'd love Spurs to win. I'll just put 3-4 posters on here for ignore, and I would enjoy them finally winning something.
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Same. Would be great to see Pochettino winning the title too. Best manager in the PL for me, although admittedly needs to win something this season.
 
According to Di Marzio Toby Alderweld doesn't want to extend his contract at Spurs

After a stretch of disappointing results, Inter is looking to the future. As reported by Sky Sport, the main focus is on the defense on top of the familiar names of Manolas, Rudiger, De Vrij and Samir the nerazzurri are also looking in England. Inter is in fact interested in two Tottenham players Kyle Walker and Toby Alderweireld. The Belgian central defender has an exit clause of 28 million and has already told Spurs he doesn't want to extend his contract- Inter has made the initial contacts with the player's entourage. Another option is Porto's Felipe a player they have scouted multiple times. Inter is focused on improving their defense next summer, their shopping list is growing.

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/inter-pursuing-tottenham-defenders-walker-alderweireld-the-situation
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Klopper76 said:
Posted this in the transfer tweet thread:

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Found this article which explains it
Tottenham Hotspur intend to tie Toby Alderweireld to a new contract, which would stand to overwrite his current deal that contains a release clause of £25m.

The clause, which was revealed by the website Football Leaks, has been the subject of conjecture but it is understood that it essentially protects Tottenham against the defender leaving as a Bosman free agent at the end of his existing contract in 2019.

If the 27-year-old were to remain on his current £50,000-a-week basic terms up until the summer of 2019 – which is unlikely, given the club’s desire to renew – a one-year option would then kick in until the summer of 2020.

In the summer of 2019, Alderweireld would be permitted to leave if a rival club were to pay £25m for him and complete the transfer at least 14 days before the closure of the summer window.

Alderweireld would be 30 that summer and Tottenham might feel that £25m would represent a good price for him, then. Alternatively, they would get to keep him for another year. Tottenham maintain that none of their players have buy-out clauses that are currently active.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/dec/06/tottenham-toby-alderweireld-new-contract-25m-clause
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balaks said:
Probably the biggest few weeks of my entire life as a Spurs fan coming up - I'm a mixture of total excitment and utter terror if I'm honest. I really hope the team can continue the fantastic form for the rest of the season and push Chelsea all the way. I will be a bit disappointed if we end this season empty handed at this stage with an (very) outside chance of the first double since 1961. I hope my heart can take it.
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Feel exactly the same way, it's the first time in my 20 odd years of being a fan where I have honest belief we won't choke. I firmly believe Poch thinks he can continue this run.

Also did anyone else pick up on Jose's comments around proitising the EL over the PL. I honestly believe that if they are still in the EL when we play them he will feed a weaker team when they play us.
 
I would be happy if Spurs won. And i agree Glaston is a bit less annoying nowadays . I also liked his short stint in the CE forum, so he is a bit more likeable.
 
InLevyITrust said:
Feel exactly the same way, it's the first time in my 20 odd years of being a fan where I have honest belief we won't choke. I firmly believe Poch thinks he can continue this run.

Also did anyone else pick up on Jose's comments around proitising the EL over the PL. I honestly believe that if they are still in the EL when we play them he will feed a weaker team when they play us.
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I think the Spurs game is after the Europa semi final. But yeah if we mess up vs City and Arsenal we may as well play the second team vs Spurs. He'd probably do it just to annoy Chelsea
 
Attila said:
I think the Spurs game is after the Europa semi final. But yeah if we mess up vs City and Arsenal we may as well play the second team vs Spurs. He'd probably do it just to annoy Chelsea
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I agree just the way he said it would be typical Jose. It's been said levy has spoken to Jose with regards to footballing advice in the past.
 
It's a Tottenham Hotspur special in this week's Premier League World on BT Sport 1 right now 6.30 - 7pm, as interviews with chairman Daniel Levy and senior architect Christopher Lee reveal Spurs' new stadium plans.
 
GlastonSpur said:
It's a Tottenham Hotspur special in this week's Premier League World on BT Sport 1 right now 6.30 - 7pm, as interviews with chairman Daniel Levy and senior architect Christopher Lee reveal Spurs' new stadium plans.
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Glaston update with the main points as I don't have BT. Thanks.
 
There's a Premier League World Special episode about Spurs current success airing on BT sport atm

edit: nevermind :D
i'll post the links later
 
stories of Alderweireld having a buy out and refusing a new deal amid interest from Inter
 
InLevyITrust said:
Glaston update with the main points as I don't have BT. Thanks.
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New interviews and footage, but nothing new really revealed ... was a general review of the stadium plans and construction progress, the NFL tie-up and progress of the first team under Poch, plus the ambitions for further establishing an academy conveyor belt into the first team ... ambitions which really got moving with the building of the new training centre.

Poch in particular seems really fired up with the long-term prospects at Spurs - saying where we are now is just the first step.

It also showed more of how hugely ambitious Levy is for Spurs.
 
GlastonSpur said:
New interviews and footage, but nothing new really revealed ... was a general review of the stadium plans and construction progress, the NFL tie-up and progress of the first team under Poch, plus the ambitions for further establishing an academy conveyor belt into the first team ... ambitions which really got moving with the building of the new training centre.

Poch in particular seems really fired up with the long-term prospects at Spurs - saying where we are now is just the first step.

It also showed more of how hugely ambitious Levy is for Spurs.
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If we keep Poch we will continue to progress. I'm happier with news of out infrastructure than a "big name" signing.
 
After the Sunday game, I am all for Spurs getting the double. Even though I would have to put @GlastonSpur on ignore (sorry).
 
Sammyjunn said:
I'd love Spurs to win the league, Glaston is not unbearable anymore, Arsenal would have a meltdown and it's still very possible. They are in great form. But we should still beat them away!
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That's the main point. We need to win against them to have any chance of finishing in the top 4. If we do that, I don't see them winning it. Though it would be marvelous for Cnute to have a complete meltdown as I really hate his over the top, dramatic, show-offish celebration after every frickin goal even when they are winning 3-0.
 
Sammyjunn said:
I'd love Spurs to win the league, Glaston is not unbearable anymore, Arsenal would have a meltdown and it's still very possible. They are in great form. But we should still beat them away!
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Yup, anyone over Liverpool, City, Chelsea and Arsenal. It's better if other teams keep winning the league while we are shit rather than our main rivals racking up titles.
 
NK86 said:
@GlastonSpur has volunteered to not post in the football forum for a couple of weeks if Spurs win the title. So you may not need to worry too much :p
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That's good. They would need to be really focused in the league though as 7 points deficit is hard to overcome :p
 
Sam Wallace's latest piece in the telegraph is interesting. I'll bullet point this shit..

  • Spurs offer players new contracts under the rule that if they don't sign, they'll be forced to sit out their current contract. (That's how he gets these players to sign long term deals for less than they're worth)
  • Harry Kane is on £80,000 p/w. Less than Lingard, and a whopping £120,000 LESS than Sterling - who earns £200,000 p/w.
  • Spurs will run into problems making their squad stronger for the CL because Levy is unlikely to offer players much more than the 80k Kane is on.
  • To sign Spurs' players, Levy is likely to demand huge fee's like with Bale.
Thoughts? If this is all true, I can see Spurs getting found out eventually. Kane is a bit of a soft touch it seems, but I can see a player like Dele Alli eventually wanting a move and creating some unrest. It'll also be hard for them to maintain being a top team if they're not going to offer incoming players much more than 80k per week.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Sam Wallace's latest piece in the telegraph is interesting. I'll bullet point this shit..

  • Spurs offer players new contracts under the rule that if they don't sign, they'll be forced to sit out their current contract. (That's how he gets these players to sign long term deals for less than they're worth)
  • Harry Kane is on £80,000 p/w. Less than Lingard, and a whopping £120,000 LESS than Sterling - who earns £200,000 p/w.
  • Spurs will run into problems making their squad stronger for the CL because Levy is unlikely to offer players much more than the 80k Kane is on.
  • To sign Spurs' players, Levy is likely to demand huge fee's like with Bale.
Thoughts? If this is all true, I can see Spurs getting found out eventually. Kane is a bit of a soft touch it seems, but I can see a player like Dele Alli eventually wanting a move and creating some unrest. It'll also be hard for them to maintain being a top team if they're not going to offer incoming players much more than 80k per week.
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There is a lot of guess work in those points imo - Kane may be on £80k basic but his bonuses etc. take him well over the £100k mark so that is misleading. The point about the 'being forced to sit out their current contract' just sounds again very misleading as I would imagine the players who have resigned for us were more than happy to do so rather than being 'forced' into it as this suggests (most likely info from an ex player from several years ago). We dont know what Levy will do in the future with wages and the indicators are that we are prepared to pay higher wages than in previous years, hense breaking what was our wage cap for Kane, etc. - again they mention the £80k and ignore the bonuses, etc. to make it look much less than it actually is - again misleading. The only point I agree with is the final point as yes Levy is likely to demand huge fee's which is he perfectly entitled to do.
 
By all accounts, Spurs contracts are also extremely heavily loaded with easily reachable bonuses of all sorts as a way of upping the value of the contracts considerably above their basic weekly rate. For example, it's well publicized that Lloris has a €4.000 bonus for every match he appears in which goes up to €8.000 for every Spurs victory.
 
LawCharltonBest said:
Sam Wallace's latest piece in the telegraph is interesting. I'll bullet point this shit..

  • Spurs offer players new contracts under the rule that if they don't sign, they'll be forced to sit out their current contract. (That's how he gets these players to sign long term deals for less than they're worth)
  • Harry Kane is on £80,000 p/w. Less than Lingard, and a whopping £120,000 LESS than Sterling - who earns £200,000 p/w.
  • Spurs will run into problems making their squad stronger for the CL because Levy is unlikely to offer players much more than the 80k Kane is on.
  • To sign Spurs' players, Levy is likely to demand huge fee's like with Bale.
Thoughts? If this is all true, I can see Spurs getting found out eventually. Kane is a bit of a soft touch it seems, but I can see a player like Dele Alli eventually wanting a move and creating some unrest. It'll also be hard for them to maintain being a top team if they're not going to offer incoming players much more than 80k per week.
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1) Not sure if that is true of course, I don't have insights into how the club is run but that does sound like something Levy would do in fairness.

2) I've seen up to 100K for him and Lloris (our two highest earners) but yep, the overall message is still the same. It is part of a tight wage structure that ensures we don't get in trouble financially. I think the aim is to always keep wages within 55% of revenues.

3) That is almost definitely true because Levy is unlikely to break the structure. As a hypothetical, if Bale became available this summer and made clear he only wanted to come back to Spurs but at 150k-200k (I know this wouldn't happen), I don't think Levy would sanction it. He'd be concerned about the knock on effects when it came to wages for the whole squad. However, we have been gradually increasing wages over the past few years. And as Balaks said, we do offer good bonuses too.

4) That one is 100% true. Only one we've been burnt on is Carrick imo. Modric we accepted a lower fee for due to the club being overseas, even though he was one of the best MFs in the world at the time.

I think overall the unfortunately reality is that we are competing with 5 clubs whose revenues are higher than ours. Some people compare us to Atletico/ Dortmund/ Seville and our relative lack of success (which is fair enough) but they are not competing with the same number of clubs domestically when it comes to finances.

I think it will be interesting to see what ENIC will do after the stadium is built. While Levy is a Spurs fan and clearly very passionate about the club, ENIC is and always has been a sports investment company. They bought us for peanuts in the early 2000s and I think once we move into the stadium, we'll have a world class stadium which we own, training complex and be (at the very least imo) a top 6 club in England. I wonder whether that may be the moment for them to sell up.
 
balaks said:
There is a lot of guess work in those points imo - Kane may be on £80k basic but his bonuses etc. take him well over the £100k mark so that is misleading. The point about the 'being forced to sit out their current contract' just sounds again very misleading as I would imagine the players who have resigned for us were more than happy to do so rather than being 'forced' into it as this suggests (most likely info from an ex player from several years ago). We dont know what Levy will do in the future with wages and the indicators are that we are prepared to pay higher wages than in previous years, hense breaking what was our wage cap for Kane, etc. - again they mention the £80k and ignore the bonuses, etc. to make it look much less than it actually is - again misleading. The only point I agree with is the final point as yes Levy is likely to demand huge fee's which is he perfectly entitled to do.
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Does Sterling £200k include bonuses though?
 
balaks said:
No clue but one thing I'm certain of is that Sterling is not worth anywhere near what he is being paid.
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That's so true, it should be the other way round really.

One thing is that every player has bonus clauses in his contract. Sterling for sure has some.
 
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