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Will Spurs finish in top 4 in the upcoming season?

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Attila said:
How can people not tell that this is sarcastic :lol:
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It's definitely sarcastic.

But the message is spot on. People obsess over Top 4 only to be shite in the CL when they get there.

I want Utd to win trophies. This obsession about Top 4 gets on my tits in modern footy - like it's something to gloat about if you get there.
 
Peanut Butter said:
It's definitely sarcastic.

But the message is spot on. People obsess over Top 4 only to be shite in the CL when they get there.

I want Utd to win trophies. This obsession about Top 4 gets on my tits in modern footy - like it's something to gloat about if you get there.
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I remember Utd getting stuffed over and over in Europe in the early Ferguson years. It's the same with Spurs as a club, we need to get experience to learn how to cope with European football. Hopefully it will finally click for us.
 
I think a big club will try and poach MP in the summer and he will run there.

He doesn't get a huge budget at Spurs and can't perform miracles. Bit like Klopp at Liverpool.

Ranieri will be at Spurs this time next year :lol:
 
balaks said:
I remember Utd getting stuffed over and over in Europe in the early Ferguson years. It's the same with Spurs as a club, we need to get experience to learn how to cope with European football. Hopefully it will finally click for us.
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Oh I completely agree.

But Spurs need a trophy first and foremost - even your manager said so.

It breeds a winning mentality- players celebrating with a trophy and medals, they get a taste for it and want more.

Spurs needed to progress tonight, or at least get to a Fa Cup or League Cup final.
 
Out of the 4 PL clubs in the CL at the start of the season I actually thought Spurs were the ones who would be the best suited.
 
Peanut Butter said:
I think a big club will try and poach MP in the summer and he will run there.

He doesn't get a huge budget at Spurs and can't perform miracles. Bit like Klopp at Liverpool.

Ranieri will be at Spurs this time next year :lol:
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Liverpool has a much, much bigger budget than Spurs.
 
Peanut Butter said:
Oh I completely agree.

But Spurs need a trophy first and foremost - even your manager said so.

It breeds a winning mentality- players celebrating with a trophy and medals, they get a taste for it and want more.

Spurs needed to progress tonight, or at least get to a Fa Cup or League Cup final.
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FA cup is hugely important for us now I think. I agree with your point about a trophy.
 
balaks said:
I remember Utd getting stuffed over and over in Europe in the early Ferguson years. It's the same with Spurs as a club, we need to get experience to learn how to cope with European football. Hopefully it will finally click for us.
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We did win the European cup winners cup by beating Barca in the final.

Spurs have been shocking in the Europa league the last few years.
 
balaks said:
I remember Utd getting stuffed over and over in Europe in the early Ferguson years. It's the same with Spurs as a club, we need to get experience to learn how to cope with European football. Hopefully it will finally click for us.
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Different circumstances really. We won the Cup Winner's Cup our first season in Europe with Fergie. Our first couple of Champion's League campaigns were seriously hampered by the three-foreigner rule which meant we could only select three of Keane, Irwin, Schmeichel, Cantona, Kanchelskis, Hughes, Giggs and McClair. Once that rule was gone, we made the Semi-Finals of the Champion's League in 1997, and won it two years later.
 
balaks said:
I remember Utd getting stuffed over and over in Europe in the early Ferguson years. It's the same with Spurs as a club, we need to get experience to learn how to cope with European football. Hopefully it will finally click for us.
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Yeah but we had the foreigner rule to hinder us.
 
I might be wrong but didn't spurs play weakened lineups in UCL? I could swear they were testing the likes of Walker...
 
cyberman said:
Yeah but we had the foreigner rule to hinder us.
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And in 94-95 we had the foreigner rule and Cantona was suspended for the first 3 or 4 games following the incident the previous year in Turkey. During that era where you only needed 14-15 players due to the 2 outfield subs rule, we were knackered.

We should have won it in 96-97, though. We really came into our own in the second half of the season. Two debatable offside goals and about a thousand chances missed against Dortmund killed us. By far the better team over two legs.
 
FujiVice said:
And in 94-95 we had the foreigner rule and Cantona was suspended for the first 3 or 4 games following the incident the previous year in Turkey. During that era where you only needed 14-15 players due to the 2 outfield subs rule, we were knackered.

We should have won it in 96-97, though. We really came into our own in the second half of the season. Two debatable offside goals and about a thousand chances missed against Dortmund killed us. By far the better team over two legs.
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That home leg was a killer, signaled the end of Cantona in a way.
 
Hopefully they now implode and fail to qualify for anything causing Alli and Kane to get ants in their pants and join us in the summer :drool:
 
sammsky1 said:
Hopefully they now implode and fail to qualify for anything causing Alli and Kane to get ants in their pants and join us in the summer :drool:
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Wouldn't want either, Griez is already lined up and he is a better SS than Alli will ever be, and with our money we can get better for the #9 than Kane as well.
 
SwansonsTache said:
Wouldn't want either, Griez is already lined up and he is a better SS than Alli will ever be, and with our money we can get better for the #9 than Kane as well.
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I'd prefer some more high quality English players into our sqaud.

I also think Alli will become one of the best in his generation.
 
2cents said:
That home leg was a killer, signaled the end of Cantona in a way.
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Yeah. He missed a load of chances that day. Admired him for going out when he'd reached the peak of his skills. He was in the greatest of form that season, but it would have been shit to see a vast decline in him in the coming years. Could have easily hung around for years if he wanted to. Ferguson was so loyal to him.

Remember when Ferguson decided to play him up front on his own against Juventus? To this day I have no idea why he decided to do this. That was never Cantona's game.
 
Alli may be good but buying from Levy would mean we would have to pay around Pogba's fee after the English player tax. Alli is not marketable with that attitude while doubtfully whether he ever reaches Suarez level of quality to compensate for that.

sammsky1 said:
I'd prefer some more high quality English players into our sqaud.

I also think Alli will become one of the best in his generation.
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BlueCelery said:
Banter club. They'll bottle Top 4 as well.
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Minimalist said:
Spurs genuinely never change.

Apply pressure and watch them dissolve.
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Peanut Butter said:
Tonight was so Spursy it's unreal. They are forever doomed to be Spursy. It doesn't matter who manages them, who plays for them or what stadium they play at, they will always Spurs it all up somehow :lol:
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This.

As I've stated before in here, there's a culture of under-achieving (or 'bottling it') that somehow permeates through Spurs, and it's gone on for decades.

Their fans will rarely, if ever, acknowledge this and instead look for excuses within the individual game or campaign that they capitulated in, thus missing the overarching point.

They should've finished above Arse last season, but didn't.

They should've progressed through their CL group, but didn't.

They should've got past Gent, but didn't.

They should've won a trophy in the last 9/10 years, but haven't.

This might not be popular opinion among Spuds fans on here, but I genuinely think the club and fans should focus on the F.A Cup this season at least as much as they're focusing on Top 4.

The reason I say that is because if they get Top 4 again, what are they gonna do with it...? Their European form is so lowly, and all it does is detract from trophies they might actually win.

That club needs a trophy, they need to experience what other aspiring clubs like Wigan, Foxes, Portsmouth, Swansea, Birmingham have experienced since Spurs last trophy win - the feeling of actually winning something.

If they don't, they can expect players to start looking elsewhere.

Another trophy-less season, and I think you'd be looking at a 'one more season' attitude from players like Kane, Alli, Erickson etc.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
This.

As I've stated before in here, there's a culture of under-achieving (or 'bottling it') that somehow permeates through Spurs, and it's gone on for decades.

Their fans will rarely, if ever, acknowledge this and instead look for excuses within the individual game or campaign that they capitulated in, thus missing the overarching point.

They should've finished above Arse last season, but didn't.

They should've progressed through their CL group, but didn't.

They should've got past Gent, but didn't.

They should've won a trophy in the last 9/10 years, but haven't.

This might not be popular opinion among Spuds fans on here, but I genuinely think the club and fans should focus on the F.A Cup this season at least as much as they're focusing on Top 4.

The reason I say that is because if they get Top 4 again, what are they gonna do with it...? Their European form is so lowly, and all it does is detract from trophies they might actually win.

That club needs a trophy, they need to experience what other aspiring clubs like Wigan, Foxes, Portsmouth, Swansea, Birmingham have experienced since Spurs last trophy win - the feeling of actually winning something.

If they don't, they can expect players to start looking elsewhere.

Another trophy-less season, and I think you'd be looking at a 'one more season' attitude from players like Kane, Alli, Erickson etc.
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:lol: Amazing post
 
esmufc07 said:
No chance he leaves this summer unless Barca come calling. Which won't happen as they'd have to pay a fairly large compensation fee.

He's doing a good job. European football isn't easy. He's still young. He'll learn.
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I think he's more likely to go to Madrid rather than Barcelona.

Both jobs are big pressure jobs. But there's more pressure on you at Barcelona when you are ex manager of Espanyol.
 
Rhyme Animal said:
This.

As I've stated before in here, there's a culture of under-achieving (or 'bottling it') that somehow permeates through Spurs, and it's gone on for decades.

Their fans will rarely, if ever, acknowledge this and instead look for excuses within the individual game or campaign that they capitulated in, thus missing the overarching point.

They should've finished above Arse last season, but didn't.

They should've progressed through their CL group, but didn't.

They should've got past Gent, but didn't.

They should've won a trophy in the last 9/10 years, but haven't.

This might not be popular opinion among Spuds fans on here, but I genuinely think the club and fans should focus on the F.A Cup this season at least as much as they're focusing on Top 4.

The reason I say that is because if they get Top 4 again, what are they gonna do with it...? Their European form is so lowly, and all it does is detract from trophies they might actually win.

That club needs a trophy, they need to experience what other aspiring clubs like Wigan, Foxes, Portsmouth, Swansea, Birmingham have experienced since Spurs last trophy win - the feeling of actually winning something.

If they don't, they can expect players to start looking elsewhere.

Another trophy-less season, and I think you'd be looking at a 'one more season' attitude from players like Kane, Alli, Erickson etc.
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Great post. Spurs have some excellent players and in 2-3 years could be genuine title contenders. However if they don't achieve something soon players will start to leave and they will be back to square one again.
 
Baxter said:
Least they got attendance records :lol:
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This is a skewed fact. For Champions league they sold a package for 3 games for £70 which is less than £25 a ticket. Literally every man and his dog went to experience Wembley. Despite the tickets being sold in the package more than 20000 people didn't turn up for CSKA.

For Gent they charged £5-10 a ticket.

You can set all sorts of records if you open the doors of Wembley to anyone for less than the price of a burger in London!
 
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