The Remake Draft

@Edgar Allan Pillow in regards to the tactic gifs, it's like they said above.

I made simple ones by making three pictures on sharemytactics, screenshotting them, and then plugging them into a gifmaker website. Google it "gifmaker" and one of the first results is the easiest. I forget the exact url, but it lets you just upload the three pictures, and then adjust the speed at which it cycles through the pictures for the gif.
 
Šjor Bepo said:
fecking Matthaus is killing me, hate him even more after this:o
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Surprised you didn't go for a player to suit his role in the first couple of rounds to be honest.....he was the heartbeat of the 90 WC team.
 
Šjor Bepo said:
fecking Matthaus is killing me, hate him even more after this:o
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Very few suitable options in the pool. Unfortunately, Der Tiger wasn't available. A charismatic leader.

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#Old-Shirts-Were-More-Classy
 
Marty1968 said:
Surprised you didn't go for a player to suit his role in the first couple of rounds to be honest.....he was the heartbeat of the 90 WC team.
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His role was so varied in that tournament alone it's almost impossible to replace him, really. Vidal is maybe the only one picked so far that you could make a passable argument for, but even then he falls short in a number of areas. So then you're left with deciding not to go for the perfect all rounder, because that kind of player doesn't exist in this era, and making a choice on which qualities were most essential to that team...and that's an impossible task.

I came to a similar conclusion with Charlton. Where can you find a player that glides across the pitch, possesses an immaculate touch, scores 30 yard screamers for fun, can effortlessly play a pinpoint 80 yard pass or a defence splitting through ball and can man mark one of the greatest players in the history of the game in the biggest game of his career?

This is an era of specialists not all rounders. I'm quite pleased to get the only all round midfielder in the draft who was legitimately one of the best players in the world, but he's still no Bobby Charlton. So you're left with the question of do you compensate with some of these deficiencies from elsewhere in the team/midfield, or will that just imbalance things further?
 
@Brwned

I agree. The same for some unique players like Platini, Beckenbauer and other GOAT.

Even Ballack would have been an unperfect replacement here.
 
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I have to echo the above. The most important positions I had to fill were Monti's - I think Busquets fits him in the best possible way - drops to defence, covers a lot of ground, excellent passing range - all the needed qualities he possesses them also plays positionaly very similarly to Monti in the base of the triangular Barca game. Then Seedorf in Ferrari's role - again that's why I went first for him - not many complete midfielders around(possibly Modric) but Modric didn't have the goal in him like Ferrari had, otherwise the comparison is pretty good between the two. Hazard and Orsi IMO are also alike - cutting in, goalscoring wingers/forwards with excellent technique and pace in their game.

And then... Meazza, I can't find a player to replace him in the team, I can only find someone who can remotely replace his role in it. Out of those picked in the first round - Totti and Ronaldinho possibly, but still I had to sacrifice some qualities that made Meazza what he was and what he brought to that 1934 team. At the end I went through many options - Silva, Neymar, Aguero, some unpicked even, but you can't find a copy of a player that had great vision, passing range, technique, versatility with the ability to put a shift in defence and on top of that score 300 goals.

Pele, Beckenbauer, Platini, Charlton, Facchetti, Gullit, Matthaus, Laudrup - very hard to find even remotely similar player in the pool to bring all the qualities and leadership they brought.
 
Yes, re-creating the likes of Matthäus, Charlton, Platini, etc. was always going to be extremely tricky. There's no standard solution to the problem, as I see it. You could try to come up with a “poor man's X” who is nevertheless a very good player: Someone who ticks most boxes, but whose overall quality is (obviously, necessarily) inferior. Or you could try to identify what the original player's most crucial qualities are, and then pick someone who shares these to a fair extent and is closer to the original's level, but who may lack other (but less crucial) qualities.

I think we're going to see plenty of disagreement over the nature of these GOAT roles, so it's by no means obvious which strategy is the soundest.
 
Brwned said:
His role was so varied in that tournament alone it's almost impossible to replace him, really. Vidal is maybe the only one picked so far that you could make a passable argument for, but even then he falls short in a number of areas. So then you're left with deciding not to go for the perfect all rounder, because that kind of player doesn't exist in this era, and making a choice on which qualities were most essential to that team...and that's an impossible task.

I came to a similar conclusion with Charlton. Where can you find a player that glides across the pitch, possesses an immaculate touch, scores 30 yard screamers for fun, can effortlessly play a pinpoint 80 yard pass or a defence splitting through ball and can man mark one of the greatest players in the history of the game in the biggest game of his career?

This is an era of specialists not all rounders. I'm quite pleased to get the only all round midfielder in the draft who was legitimately one of the best players in the world, but he's still no Bobby Charlton. So you're left with the question of do you compensate with some of these deficiencies from elsewhere in the team/midfield, or will that just imbalance things further?
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I actually think that peak Toure would've been a nice replacement, while he was still arsed to help out defensively. His runs are as devastating as Matthaus', he scores lots of goals, he is a fantastic passer and he also has great physique and defensive skills from his time at Barca
 
Btw, @Brwned , your description of Charlton also perfectly describes Matthaus - even the man-marking job (Maradona), was it intentional?)
 
harms said:
I actually think that peak Toure would've been a nice replacement, while he was still arsed to help out defensively. His runs are as devastating as Matthaus', he scores lots of goals, he is a fantastic passer and he also has great physique and defensive skills from his time at Barca
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I don't think Toure ever combined all these traits at the same time. It was always one or the other, which makes him kinda the opposite of what Matthäus was. Vidal was the obvious pick for me and he actually has the selfless warrior attitude as well, which Toure always lacked.
 
harms said:
I actually think that peak Toure would've been a nice replacement, while he was still arsed to help out defensively. His runs are as devastating as Matthaus', he scores lots of goals, he is a fantastic passer and he also has great physique and defensive skills from his time at Barca
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He was different at Barca and City. You have to have combination of both and yet he won't replicate peak Matthaus. As everyone pretty much said Vidal is the closest you can get.
 
Balu said:
I don't think Toure ever combined all these traits at the same time. It was always one or the other, which makes him kinda the opposite of what Matthäus was. Vidal was the obvious pick for me and he actually has the selfless warrior attitude as well, which Toure always lacked.
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I think that there was a brief period, when he already established himself as a main man in the team but still hasn't forgotten the defensive side of his game. The attitude problem was always there, that's true enough
 
Marty1968 said:
Surprised you didn't go for a player to suit his role in the first couple of rounds to be honest.....he was the heartbeat of the 90 WC team.
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Thought Gerrard and Vidal and even Ballack to a point were the best fits for Lothar.
 
Tuppet (Inter 1964, 1-3-4-2) - 1. Ronaldo 2. Pirlo 3. Puyol 4. Ricardo Carvalho 5. Di Maria 6. David Silva 7. Carlos Tevez
02) paulscholes18/Marty1968 (Germany 1972, 4-3-3)- 1. Nesta 2 Vidal 3 RVN 4 Hummels 5. Veron 6. Marcelo 7. Cavani 8 Ljungberg
03) crappycraperson (Milan 1989, 4-4-2) - 1. Ronaldinho 2. Thiago Silva 3. Beckham 4. Crespo 5. Rooney 6. Gattuso 7. Kompany
04) Downcast (Juve 1983, Lop-sided 4-4-2) - 1. Kaká 2. Shevchenko 3. Zambrotta 4. Xavi Hernandez 5. Bonucci 6. Riquelme 7. Barzagli 8. Senna
05) harms (Ajax 1995, 3-3-1-3) - 1. T. Müller 2. J. Martínez 3. Abidal 4. Touré 5. Essien 6. Walcott 7. Badstuber 8. Darmian
06) DavidG (River 1941, 3-2-5) - 1. T. Henry 2. Bale 3. Ivan Cordoba. 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Chiellini 6. Giuly 7. Di Natale 8. Stankovic
07) Šjor Bepo (GER 1990, 3-5-2) - 1. Suarez 2. Ribery 3. Boateng 4. Marquez 5. Lucio 6. Gundogan 7. Forlan 8. Buffon
08) Gio (Hungary 1953, 3-2-1-4) - 1. Totti 2. Raul 3. Robben 4. De Rossi 5. Verratti 6. Klose 7. Deisler 8. Ivanovic
09) Enigma_87 (ITA 1934, 2-3-2-3) - 1. Seedorf 2. Busquets 3. Eto'o 4. Samuel 5. Hazard 6. Robin van Persie 7. Sagnol 8. Chivu
10) P-Nut0712/mazhar13 (BRA 1982, 4-2-2-2) - 1. Neymar 2. Pogba 3. van Bronckhorst 4. Marchisio 5. Maicon 6. De Bruyne 7. Rakitic 8. Drogba
11) Raees/anant (Austria 1934, 2-3-5)- 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Alaba 3. Griezmann 4. D. Alves 5. S. Ramos 6. Agüero 7. Dybala 8. L. King
12) NoPace (Arsenal 1931, 3-2-2-3) - 1. Godin 2. Mascherano 3. Fabregas 4. Alexis Sanchez 5. Lampard 6. Thiago Motta 7. Azpilicueta 8. Mkhitaryan
13) Brwned (ENG 1966, 4-1-3-2) - 1. Rio Ferdinand 2. Gerrard 3. Cole 4. Terry 5. Kane 6. Owen 7. G. Neville 8. Hargreaves
14) Kazi (BRA 1958, 4-2-4) - 1. Modrić 2. Vidic 3. David Villa 4. Carrick 5. Lewandowski 6. Joaquin 7. Evra 8. Marquinhos
15) EAP (Barca 1992, 3-4-3) - 1. P Vieira 2. X Alonso 3. Pedro 4. G Pique 5. A Martial 6. D Blind 7. J Valdivia 8. Deco
16) MJJ/VivaJanuzaj (Dynamo 1975, 4-1-3-2) - 1.Lahm 2. Iniesta 3. Reus 4. Koke 5. Cambiasso 6. Ballack 7. Torres 8. Laporte

@Tuppet
 
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Ideally catenaccio should be a system that’s not just difficult to play against, but that opponents despise playing against. While some (esp Herrara himself) would argue that there was fair amount of attacking in catenaccio (and there was), there is no denying that there was a deep cynicism and win at any cost mentality with this system. One of great catenaccio proponent Milan’s coach Rocco is said to have told his team before a match: “Kick anything that moves; if it’s the ball, so much the better.” Oh how would they have loved to have Pepe.

Pepe’s like a professional wrestling heel; his ability to draw heat and being the pantomime villain is astonishing. What gets lost sometime in his forward hacking, dive acting and general cuntishness though, is that he is pretty damn good defender. 2 times champions league winner, twice selected in Euro team of the tournament, Pepe gives us the right combination of strength, aerial ability, and ruthlessness to be our left-central defender.

01) Tuppet (Inter 1964, 1-3-4-2) - 1. Ronaldo 2. Pirlo 3. Puyol 4. Ricardo Carvalho 5. Di Maria 6. David Silva 7. Carlos Tevez 8. Pepe
02) paulscholes18/Marty1968 (Germany 1972, 4-3-3)- 1. Nesta 2 Vidal 3 RVN 4 Hummels 5. Veron 6. Marcelo 7. Cavani 8 Ljungberg
03) crappycraperson (Milan 1989, 4-4-2) - 1. Ronaldinho 2. Thiago Silva 3. Beckham 4. Crespo 5. Rooney 6. Gattuso 7. Kompany
04) Downcast (Juve 1983, Lop-sided 4-4-2) - 1. Kaká 2. Shevchenko 3. Zambrotta 4. Xavi Hernandez 5. Bonucci 6. Riquelme 7. Barzagli 8. Senna
05) harms (Ajax 1995, 3-3-1-3) - 1. T. Müller 2. J. Martínez 3. Abidal 4. Touré 5. Essien 6. Walcott 7. Badstuber 8. Darmian
06) DavidG (River 1941, 3-2-5) - 1. T. Henry 2. Bale 3. Ivan Cordoba. 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Chiellini 6. Giuly 7. Di Natale 8. Stankovic
07) Šjor Bepo (GER 1990, 3-5-2) - 1. Suarez 2. Ribery 3. Boateng 4. Marquez 5. Lucio 6. Gundogan 7. Forlan 8. Buffon
08) Gio (Hungary 1953, 3-2-1-4) - 1. Totti 2. Raul 3. Robben 4. De Rossi 5. Verratti 6. Klose 7. Deisler 8. Ivanovic
09) Enigma_87 (ITA 1934, 2-3-2-3) - 1. Seedorf 2. Busquets 3. Eto'o 4. Samuel 5. Hazard 6. Robin van Persie 7. Sagnol 8. Chivu
10) P-Nut0712/mazhar13 (BRA 1982, 4-2-2-2) - 1. Neymar 2. Pogba 3. van Bronckhorst 4. Marchisio 5. Maicon 6. De Bruyne 7. Rakitic 8. Drogba
11) Raees/anant (Austria 1934, 2-3-5)- 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Alaba 3. Griezmann 4. D. Alves 5. S. Ramos 6. Agüero 7. Dybala 8. L. King
12) NoPace (Arsenal 1931, 3-2-2-3) - 1. Godin 2. Mascherano 3. Fabregas 4. Alexis Sanchez 5. Lampard 6. Thiago Motta 7. Azpilicueta 8. Mkhitaryan
13) Brwned (ENG 1966, 4-1-3-2) - 1. Rio Ferdinand 2. Gerrard 3. Cole 4. Terry 5. Kane 6. Owen 7. G. Neville 8. Hargreaves
14) Kazi (BRA 1958, 4-2-4) - 1. Modrić 2. Vidic 3. David Villa 4. Carrick 5. Lewandowski 6. Joaquin 7. Evra 8. Marquinhos
15) EAP (Barca 1992, 3-4-3) - 1. P Vieira 2. X Alonso 3. Pedro 4. G Pique 5. A Martial 6. D Blind 7. J Valdivia 8. Deco
16) MJJ/VivaJanuzaj (Dynamo 1975, 4-1-3-2) - 1.Lahm 2. Iniesta 3. Reus 4. Koke 5. Cambiasso 6. Ballack 7. Torres 8. Laporte
 
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The Keeper requirements are simple enough, we are playing with an actual sweeper so none of the sweeper keeper shenanigans. We are playing with a deep defensive line and three central defenders to make clearances, hopefully there won't be too many 1 on 1s either. What we need is a keeper who can save long shots, someone who can get to the firecrackers ripped from long-range by teams frustrated by our deep defending and marking. Our keeper should also be expert at picking a long pass to start a counter. De gea is the best shot stopper in the world right now for a good couple of years and his long passing is absolutely brilliant.

01) Tuppet (Inter 1964, 1-3-4-2) - 1. Ronaldo 2. Pirlo 3. Puyol 4. Ricardo Carvalho 5. Di Maria 6. David Silva 7. Carlos Tevez 8. Pepe 9. De Gea
02) paulscholes18/Marty1968 (Germany 1972, 4-3-3)- 1. Nesta 2 Vidal 3 RVN 4 Hummels 5. Veron 6. Marcelo 7. Cavani 8 Ljungberg
03) crappycraperson (Milan 1989, 4-4-2) - 1. Ronaldinho 2. Thiago Silva 3. Beckham 4. Crespo 5. Rooney 6. Gattuso 7. Kompany
04) Downcast (Juve 1983, Lop-sided 4-4-2) - 1. Kaká 2. Shevchenko 3. Zambrotta 4. Xavi Hernandez 5. Bonucci 6. Riquelme 7. Barzagli 8. Senna
05) harms (Ajax 1995, 3-3-1-3) - 1. T. Müller 2. J. Martínez 3. Abidal 4. Touré 5. Essien 6. Walcott 7. Badstuber 8. Darmian
06) DavidG (River 1941, 3-2-5) - 1. T. Henry 2. Bale 3. Ivan Cordoba. 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Chiellini 6. Giuly 7. Di Natale 8. Stankovic
07) Šjor Bepo (GER 1990, 3-5-2) - 1. Suarez 2. Ribery 3. Boateng 4. Marquez 5. Lucio 6. Gundogan 7. Forlan 8. Buffon
08) Gio (Hungary 1953, 3-2-1-4) - 1. Totti 2. Raul 3. Robben 4. De Rossi 5. Verratti 6. Klose 7. Deisler 8. Ivanovic
09) Enigma_87 (ITA 1934, 2-3-2-3) - 1. Seedorf 2. Busquets 3. Eto'o 4. Samuel 5. Hazard 6. Robin van Persie 7. Sagnol 8. Chivu
10) P-Nut0712/mazhar13 (BRA 1982, 4-2-2-2) - 1. Neymar 2. Pogba 3. van Bronckhorst 4. Marchisio 5. Maicon 6. De Bruyne 7. Rakitic 8. Drogba
11) Raees/anant (Austria 1934, 2-3-5)- 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Alaba 3. Griezmann 4. D. Alves 5. S. Ramos 6. Agüero 7. Dybala 8. L. King
12) NoPace (Arsenal 1931, 3-2-2-3) - 1. Godin 2. Mascherano 3. Fabregas 4. Alexis Sanchez 5. Lampard 6. Thiago Motta 7. Azpilicueta 8. Mkhitaryan
13) Brwned (ENG 1966, 4-1-3-2) - 1. Rio Ferdinand 2. Gerrard 3. Cole 4. Terry 5. Kane 6. Owen 7. G. Neville 8. Hargreaves
14) Kazi (BRA 1958, 4-2-4) - 1. Modrić 2. Vidic 3. David Villa 4. Carrick 5. Lewandowski 6. Joaquin 7. Evra 8. Marquinhos
15) EAP (Barca 1992, 3-4-3) - 1. P Vieira 2. X Alonso 3. Pedro 4. G Pique 5. A Martial 6. D Blind 7. J Valdivia 8. Deco
16) MJJ/VivaJanuzaj (Dynamo 1975, 4-1-3-2) - 1.Lahm 2. Iniesta 3. Reus 4. Koke 5. Cambiasso 6. Ballack 7. Torres 8. Laporte

@paulscholes18 @Marty1968
 
01) Tuppet (Inter 1964, 1-3-4-2) - 1. Ronaldo 2. Pirlo 3. Puyol 4. Ricardo Carvalho 5. Di Maria 6. David Silva 7. Carlos Tevez 8. Pepe 9. De Gea
02) paulscholes18/Marty1968 (Germany 1972, 4-3-3)- 1. Nesta 2 Vidal 3 RVN 4 Hummels 5. Veron 6. Marcelo 7. Cavani 8 Ljungberg 9 Neuer
03) crappycraperson (Milan 1989, 4-4-2) - 1. Ronaldinho 2. Thiago Silva 3. Beckham 4. Crespo 5. Rooney 6. Gattuso 7. Kompany
04) Downcast (Juve 1983, Lop-sided 4-4-2) - 1. Kaká 2. Shevchenko 3. Zambrotta 4. Xavi Hernandez 5. Bonucci 6. Riquelme 7. Barzagli 8. Senna
05) harms (Ajax 1995, 3-3-1-3) - 1. T. Müller 2. J. Martínez 3. Abidal 4. Touré 5. Essien 6. Walcott 7. Badstuber 8. Darmian
06) DavidG (River 1941, 3-2-5) - 1. T. Henry 2. Bale 3. Ivan Cordoba. 4. Ibrahimovic 5. Chiellini 6. Giuly 7. Di Natale 8. Stankovic
07) Šjor Bepo (GER 1990, 3-5-2) - 1. Suarez 2. Ribery 3. Boateng 4. Marquez 5. Lucio 6. Gundogan 7. Forlan 8. Buffon
08) Gio (Hungary 1953, 3-2-1-4) - 1. Totti 2. Raul 3. Robben 4. De Rossi 5. Verratti 6. Klose 7. Deisler 8. Ivanovic
09) Enigma_87 (ITA 1934, 2-3-2-3) - 1. Seedorf 2. Busquets 3. Eto'o 4. Samuel 5. Hazard 6. Robin van Persie 7. Sagnol 8. Chivu
10) P-Nut0712/mazhar13 (BRA 1982, 4-2-2-2) - 1. Neymar 2. Pogba 3. van Bronckhorst 4. Marchisio 5. Maicon 6. De Bruyne 7. Rakitic 8. Drogba
11) Raees/anant (Austria 1934, 2-3-5)- 1. Schweinsteiger 2. Alaba 3. Griezmann 4. D. Alves 5. S. Ramos 6. Agüero 7. Dybala 8. L. King
12) NoPace (Arsenal 1931, 3-2-2-3) - 1. Godin 2. Mascherano 3. Fabregas 4. Alexis Sanchez 5. Lampard 6. Thiago Motta 7. Azpilicueta 8. Mkhitaryan
13) Brwned (ENG 1966, 4-1-3-2) - 1. Rio Ferdinand 2. Gerrard 3. Cole 4. Terry 5. Kane 6. Owen 7. G. Neville 8. Hargreaves
14) Kazi (BRA 1958, 4-2-4) - 1. Modrić 2. Vidic 3. David Villa 4. Carrick 5. Lewandowski 6. Joaquin 7. Evra 8. Marquinhos
15) EAP (Barca 1992, 3-4-3) - 1. P Vieira 2. X Alonso 3. Pedro 4. G Pique 5. A Martial 6. D Blind 7. J Valdivia 8. Deco
16) MJJ/VivaJanuzaj (Dynamo 1975, 4-1-3-2) - 1.Lahm 2. Iniesta 3. Reus 4. Koke 5. Cambiasso 6. Ballack 7. Torres 8. Laporte
 
Marty1968 said:
Surprised you didn't go for a player to suit his role in the first couple of rounds to be honest.....he was the heartbeat of the 90 WC team.
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thought about going early but as i didnt have a very good replacement i decided to go around it and pick similar players for others. No point of wasting early pick and still hear moaning how he isnt like Matthaus. Was hoping to pick Gerrard in 4, 5 round but @Brwned screwed me there and after that i changed my mind about his successor at least 5 times.

@Downcast i can.
 
Šjor Bepo said:
thought about going early but as i didnt have a very good replacement i decided to go around it and pick similar players for others. No point of wasting early pick and still hear moaning how he isnt like Matthaus. Was hoping to pick Gerrard in 4, 5 round but @Brwned screwed me there and after that i changed my mind about his successor at least 5 times.

@Downcast i can.
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Thanks.
 
Brwned said:
His role was so varied in that tournament alone it's almost impossible to replace him, really. Vidal is maybe the only one picked so far that you could make a passable argument for, but even then he falls short in a number of areas. So then you're left with deciding not to go for the perfect all rounder, because that kind of player doesn't exist in this era, and making a choice on which qualities were most essential to that team...and that's an impossible task.

I came to a similar conclusion with Charlton. Where can you find a player that glides across the pitch, possesses an immaculate touch, scores 30 yard screamers for fun, can effortlessly play a pinpoint 80 yard pass or a defence splitting through ball and can man mark one of the greatest players in the history of the game in the biggest game of his career?

This is an era of specialists not all rounders. I'm quite pleased to get the only all round midfielder in the draft who was legitimately one of the best players in the world, but he's still no Bobby Charlton. So you're left with the question of do you compensate with some of these deficiencies from elsewhere in the team/midfield, or will that just imbalance things further?
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After i got Germany the first thing i did, i went on youtube to see is there any compilation for Matthaus for that specific tournament and there it was. After watching that i thought: feck, this is going to be difficult as there isnt a single player in the world that can combine scoring and gliding across the pitch.
Then i went to watch the full games and i saw thats only half the story as the prick decided to play like Di Stefano on that tournament so i basically needed a player that can play DM and AM in the same time. Mission impossible.
 
Šjor Bepo said:
After i got Germany the first thing i did, i went on youtube to see is there any compilation for Matthaus for that specific tournament and there it was. After watching that i thought: feck, this is going to be difficult as there isnt a single player in the world that can combine scoring and gliding across the pitch.
Then i went to watch the full games and i saw thats only half the story as the prick decided to play like Di Stefano on that tournament so i basically needed a player that can play DM and AM in the same time. Mission impossible.
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Never mind your elusive goalscoring playmaking left-back.
 
Balu said:
I don't think Toure ever combined all these traits at the same time. It was always one or the other, which makes him kinda the opposite of what Matthäus was. Vidal was the obvious pick for me and he actually has the selfless warrior attitude as well, which Toure always lacked.
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What I was trying to say is that Vidal is probably the best fit stylistically, but he never had technical ability of Matthaus, while Toure can challenge him in shot technique, passing (I knew how brilliant he was, but when I watched his games now, looking specifically at his passing... :drool:) and even some defensive qualities. But yeah, him being much less mobile and quite lazy for the most time probably rules him out.

What could've happen if the player with such qualities had the mentality of Vidal :drool:
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
You should have taken Vieira in R1. He is a more crucial part of the team than Suarez imo.
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To be fair it's very hard to find a diver who proved himself on the highest level to replace Klinsmann, so the Suarez pick is justified.

That little jump at the end :lol:
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
You should have taken Vieira in R1. He is a more crucial part of the team than Suarez imo.

I don't mind even trading you Vieira for Boateng. ;)
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Suarez is perfect for his role, Vieira isnt so it was a easy choice. As i already said, no point of wasting early picks and still hear moans how the players lacks something from Matthaus game so therefor he isnt a good match, at least thats my view of it.
 
What's really strange is that @crappycraperson already was online since his first turn and was engaged in the conversation at the time of scholes pick. :(
 
Šjor Bepo said:
As i already said, no point of wasting early picks and still hear moans how the players lacks something from Matthaus game so therefor he isnt a good match
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That would not be a valid opinion in this draft at all. When replicating legendary teams, in cases more often than not, the new players will be viewed/rates as inferior to the GOATs.
 
People have jumped the gun on their goalkeepers I see....
 
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