The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Me too, can't see him wanting another 12 rounds of that. His lifestyle has caught up with him

Was perhaps the most significant factor, I don't see Fury having the capacity to make up that difference when the fight with Usyk is determined by volume, movement and consistent adjustments.
 
I think Fury will. Can't see him fighting again
It’s a shot to nothing in the sense that he won’t really lose any further respect by losing again, but has everything to gain. Kind of similar to how AJ was probably feeling after the first fight.

I don’t believe the stuff about him not being motivated by money and being able to walk away from boxing. It’s boxing that seems to keep him level.

If he does rematch and win, there will be an inevitable third fight. It will put some serious mileage on his body, so I think the AJ fight probably disappeared tonight. At least a prime version of it anyway.
 
I thought it was a pretty even fight to be honest, Fury edged about six rounds but it was obvious he was trying to keep Usyk at bay and once he got rocked it was game over.
 
The first six or seven rounds were pretty close and open to subjective interpretation by the judges imo, which short of a stoppage, was destined to result in a close final score.

I agree, if the fight stayed on that trajectory I could see a draw but that power left hook from Usyk changed the bout.

It was a close fight and I had Usyk the winner by two definitive rounds 115-113: judging ring generalship, clean punches landed (including body), boxing off the back foot and defense.

The scorecards are reflective of how the fight was appropriately judged with exception of the one winner for Fury that's a little too controversial for my liking and it's a good highlight having seen some of the most disgusting robberies last 12 months with Teofimo Lopez vs Ortiz topping that list.
 
I wonder if he didn't have his knob of a dad in the corner telling him he was cruising whether it would have been different. Sounded like the American guy in the corner was seeing a different fight the way we were seeing it in the last rounds.
 
It’s a shot to nothing in the sense that he won’t really lose any further respect by losing again, but has everything to gain. Kind of similar to how AJ was probably feeling after the first fight.

I don’t believe the stuff about him not being motivated by money and being able to walk away from boxing. It’s boxing that seems to keep him level.

If he does rematch and win, there will be an inevitable third fight. It will put some serious mileage on his body, so I think the AJ fight probably disappeared tonight. At least a prime version of it anyway.

I think him losing his 0 was a big thing for him. This character he played relies a lot on his unbeaten record and now that's gone.

I'm not interested in a rematch for whatever reason, despite enjoying this fight.
 
I think Fury edged 4 or 5 rounds if we're being generous. 115-112 was the right score. If we forget that it was a technical knock out.
 
I thought it was a pretty even fight to be honest, Fury edged about six rounds but it was obvious he was trying to keep Usyk at bay and once he got rocked it was game over.

In the early rounds he was toying with Usyk and using his jab and size to mess with him and have a little fun.

The broken nose changed it all, then his corner clearly lied to him.

It was never even once Usyk found the upper hand. He is the better boxer, even in the early rounds his technique was clearly superior.


I wonder if he didn't have his knob of a dad in the corner telling him he was cruising whether it would have been different. Sounded like the American guy in the corner was seeing a different fight the way we were seeing it in the last rounds.

His corner were very audibly wrong for the whole fight. John Fury especially should be punted out of it, stupid fat prick.
 
Fury won 4, 5, 6 and maybe 12 - that's it. Everything else was clearly Usyk
 
Said he would have gone for the kill in the last 2 rounds if his corner said he was behind. I think Tyson will be in for a shock when he re-watches the fight his corner too they made a poor judgement with the he's winning narrative.
 
Sounds like a dude who's happy to fight for the mega bucks in front of him in the Joshua fight and rematch to me. The 0's gone, nothing to protect anymore.
 
Said he would have gone for the kill in the last 2 rounds if his corner said he was behind. I think Tyson will be in for a shock when he re-watches the fight his corner too they made a poor judgement with the he's winning narrative.

There's no way Fury didn't know he needed to step up in those last rounds. At best it was a tight fight and he had just been rocked and taken an 8 count, if they didn't think he needed to push ahead there's something going on.
I think Fury knew he couldn't outbox Usyk and was a bit scared to commit himself. Relied on the jab and uppercut too much.
 


He's talking about the decision and how he thinks he won the fight before and after that comment. It's very clearly about the decision.

Guy has always been classless! Had the chance to clear things up or at least apologize for a horrendously bad take after having his head rocked 20 minutes prior, but chose to do niether.
 
Guy has always been classless! Had the chance to clear things up or at least apologize for a horrendously bad take after having his head rocked 20 minutes prior, but chose to do niether.
That was a shame. What’s said immediately after the fight can always be forgiven because God only knows how their mind and body must be feeling. Would have been nice to clear it up in the press conference as you say, rather than digging in their heels insisting we should be proud of him.
 
That was a shame. What’s said immediately after the fight can always be forgiven because God only knows how their mind and body must be feeling. Would have been nice to clear it up in the press conference as you say, rather than digging in their heels insisting we should be proud of him.

I think it's an emotional roller coaster. Looking at Joshua's post fight comments against Usyk was a full-scale breakdown never seen anything like it in sport. Also recall Adrien Broner of all people saying he cried for 3-4 months on a regular basis after he got demolished by Maidana.

As much as fighters have this warrior mindset etc they are still susceptible to mental obscurities.
 
So pleased to see Fury lose after how he's acted last few years, Usyk deserved it. A joke that one of the judges gave it to Fury.

Fully expected it to be a draw seeing as the deal is for two fights, makes a nice change that the correct fighter wins.
 
I think it's an emotional roller coaster. Looking at Joshua's post fight comments against Usyk was a full-scale breakdown never seen anything like it in sport. Also recall Adrien Broner of all people saying he cried for 3-4 months on a regular basis after he got demolished by Maidana.

As much as fighters have this warrior mindset etc they are still susceptible to mental obscurities.

Well yeah, you can't expect boxers to be intellectuals at the best of times. To be fair to Fury, I was pleasantly surprised that he didn't end up doing his ring walk in a ushanka and a Putin mask.
 


He's talking about the decision and how he thinks he won the fight before and after that comment. It's very clearly about the decision.


In fairness, Fury thought it was January 1st as well, so the punches clearly took a toll on his ability to think with clarity.
 
I think it's an emotional roller coaster. Looking at Joshua's post fight comments against Usyk was a full-scale breakdown never seen anything like it in sport. Also recall Adrien Broner of all people saying he cried for 3-4 months on a regular basis after he got demolished by Maidana.

As much as fighters have this warrior mindset etc they are still susceptible to mental obscurities.
Very good point. We can never underestimate how emotionally draining a fight of that magnitude must be. In this day and age it’s too easy to start picking apart everything that’s said or done, and that would unnecessarily detract from what was ultimately a tremendous boxing match.
 
No idea what Fury’s corner was thinking. He was clearly losing and they’re telling him he’s 1 round from undisputed? He needed to go for the kill in the 11th and 12th and just ran out the fight possibly thinking he had done enough? Bizarre

Making a Netflix reality show and doing boxing exhibitions against MMA fighters is ridiculous for Tyson. Lose 1-2% at this high level and it shows