The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Let’s be fair…..Tyson is here for the money. He’s doing his bit to build it but he needs the cash and I think actually having a competitive fight isn’t really top priority for him

Most likely yes, but he's not exactly the type to not try to put on a show. I couldn't care less about the fight I just think Tyson remains moderately impressive despite his advanced age.
 
He looks as expected. Dude has been hitting pads for 40+ years, he's going to look good and still reasonably quick/powerful. Fact is he was shot to pieces 20 years ago. I suspect he has almost zero punch resistance.

Genius marketing by Jake Paul really because certain people can't seem to look beyond the 'Mike Tyson aura' and still see him as that same invincible kid he was at 19/20, when in reality he has no business in the ring in with anybody of pro calibre (which, despite how absolutely bang average he is, Jake is)
Even if he were shot 30 years ago with little punch resistance, you're talking about an extremely heavy hitting era of heavyweight boxers not holding back with everything they throw. Jake Paul does not punch like they do, not even close. I can see the route via Tyson simply being exhausted, but whilst there's something in the tank, the fight is incredibly dangerous for Paul.

It's not so much the aura, rather the reality that Tyson's sequencing and work to the body and coming up to the head is ridiculous. The pad work is always impressive because he made a career out of transferring those drills into knocking people out quickly and efficiently.

Paul hasn't been in with anyone where he is the prey and they are coming to take his head off with a certainty of purpose for the little bit of time they are loaded with power and agility - Tyson isn't going to stand there pawing away with jabs and being tentative and Paul's simply not had anything like that in the ring, especially from someone whose footwork is copied and imitated to this day.

I suspect Paul will be on his toes running for dear life for the opening two rounds and will try and get into the fight after the third, probably with Tyson dead on his feet. There's no way he stands toe to toe with Tyson whilst he's fresh.
 
Suspect it will be a sham fight to go the distance with lots of holding throughout. Probably a split decision result as well to ensure a rematch is on the cards.

I would love Tyson to spark him out in the first round though!
 
Suspect it will be a sham fight to go the distance with lots of holding throughout. Probably a split decision result as well to ensure a rematch is on the cards.

I would love Tyson to spark him out in the first round though!

I'm not sure why so many folks are so confident that this fight will be an exhibition sham.

Tyson's fight with Jones Jr was supposed to be an exhibition, but instead Tyson spent all eight rounds bullying, slipping and trying to hit the knockout hook.

Folks on here are in for a stark surprise when Tyson shows up and doesn't treat it like a friendly. :lol:
 
Last time Tyson fought almost four years ago, Jones Jr. (only three years retired) spent most of the fight clinching, whilst Tyson had the cardio, speed and power to pummel him for eight rounds. 57 or not, it's sheer hubris to think Paul will be standing to the end when Roy Freakin' Jones struggled only a few years ago.

 
It's not as if Mike bullied a recently retired Roy Jones Jr only a few years ago, whilst looking quicker and more powerful than him.

Oh wait, he did.

Tyson will wreck him the way Jones Jr was clinging for life. :lol:

Recently retired... You make it sound like we're talking about a dude in his mid to late 30s. Roy is also in his 50s and was shot to pieces back in 2009. He just lost a boxing match to Showtime Pettis FFS.
 
Recently retired... You make it sound like we're talking about a dude in his mid to late 30s. Roy is also in his 50s and was shot to pieces back in 2009. He just lost a boxing match to Showtime Pettis FFS.
Yeah, Roy Jones Jrs career went on about 15 years too long.
 
Most likely yes, but he's not exactly the type to not try to put on a show. I couldn't care less about the fight I just think Tyson remains moderately impressive despite his advanced age.
Yes he’s impressive and of course we’re all hoping that the demon returns and he beats Paul to a pulp.
I just think he’ll be aware to not bite the hand that feeds
 
He's finding this one tricky. Put the excessive showboating to the side now
 
Not as good as he thinks he is; looks like he’s primed for a spectacular KO if he doesn’t stop offering his face. Got caught loads reflexively in the 3 rds I saw. Will have to actually box properly going up.
 
Naz from Wish. Next to nothing in these punches.
Tbf to Naz Whittaker really takes it to another level. One day he will get flattened if he doesn't learn. Naz wouldn't start dancing mid fight and always had his eyes on his opponent, I can't remember seeing a boxer literally look away as much as Whittaker does.

It's a shame really because he's got all the raw attributes to be an incredible boxer, he just needs to dial the showboating down.
 
What separates these types of fighters from Naz is that he had unbelievable power in both hands
 
Tbf to Naz Whittaker really takes it to another level. One day he will get flattened if he doesn't learn. Naz wouldn't start dancing mid fight and always had his eyes on his opponent, I can't remember seeing a boxer literally look away as much as Whittaker does.

It's a shame really because he's got all the raw attributes to be an incredible boxer, he just needs to dial the showboating down.
Naz could take the piss, admittedly nowhere near to the level of this guy, because opponents feared the power when he knuckled down. There's nothing to be fearful of on that front.
 
Naz could take the piss, admittedly nowhere near to the level of this guy, because opponents feared the power when he knuckled down. There's nothing to be fearful of on that front.
Of course, Naz had real power but Naz would never start dancing mid bout and just look away and point to his corner like some of the weird stuff Whittaker does. Floyd would also take the piss a little despite not really having the power (especially towards the end of his career) but I feel the whole dancing and looking away thing will end up in a big embarrassment for him if he doesn't cut it out.

There's a difference between fighting with your hands down and trying to bait your opponent/ taking the piss when your opponent is practically finished than starting to breakdance and look away in the middle of a combination. He's overdoing it imo and I'm not really a fan of it.

 
Of course, Naz had real power but Naz would never start dancing mid bout and just look away and point to his corner like some of the weird stuff Whittaker does. Floyd would also take the piss a little despite not really having the power (especially towards the end of his career) but I feel the whole dancing and looking away thing will end up in a big embarrassment for him if he doesn't cut it out.

There's a difference between fighting with your hands down and trying to bait your opponent/ taking the piss when your opponent is practically finished than starting to breakdance and look away in the middle of a combination. He's overdoing it imo and I'm not really a fan of it.

He looks like a dope and as you say there's no real point to it. He's making a fool of himself, more so than the opponent.
 
Of course, Naz had real power but Naz would never start dancing mid bout and just look away and point to his corner like some of the weird stuff Whittaker does. Floyd would also take the piss a little despite not really having the power (especially towards the end of his career) but I feel the whole dancing and looking away thing will end up in a big embarrassment for him if he doesn't cut it out.

There's a difference between fighting with your hands down and trying to bait your opponent/ taking the piss when your opponent is practically finished than starting to breakdance and look away in the middle of a combination. He's overdoing it imo and I'm not really a fan of it.


Such an annoying little twat, but I did laugh at the little bop on the top of the opponent’s head.
 
What a fight that was. Wardley and Clarke both exhausted
Dead on their feet ... Clarke collapsed to the floor at the end! Thought it was a fair result but Clarke needs to up his cardio seriously. He was very economical with his shots and yet tired visibly
 
Dead on their feet ... Clarke collapsed to the floor at the end! Thought it was a fair result but Clarke needs to up his cardio seriously. He was very economical with his shots and yet tired visibly

Didn't think he looked too bad, Wardley was visibly way more tired even though his nose wasn't broken. Clarke is 270 I think it's always gonna be tough to do 12 at a high pace. Needs to use his weight more up-close.
 
Yup ... Thought he did really well - all that noisemaking from Chamberlain was weird. Let the guy enjoy his win.
Why stand and trade with Lawal? Outbox him and keep moving

Nice one, read after that he apparently fractured his rib in round one.
 
Whittaker is just coming across pathetic, its been done before by Naz but he delivered the big shots so it was entertaining. Also he'd do his hip shake and drop his hands almost for the crowds entertainment. Whittaker is doing it to totally belittle his opponent and to that isn't a good look.

Whatever ever we say though, he's got people talking about him. I heard Ben Shalom talking about him on talkshite the other day saying he's demanding his hotel room be swapped. The interviewer asked if he was getting above his station as a pretty early stage pro but the reality is he's being talked about an awful lot and is always going to be an interest name on any card given everyone is hoping he gets knocked the feck out.
 
Whittaker is just coming across pathetic, its been done before by Naz but he delivered the big shots so it was entertaining. Also he'd do his hip shake and drop his hands almost for the crowds entertainment. Whittaker is doing it to totally belittle his opponent and to that isn't a good look.

Whatever ever we say though, he's got people talking about him. I heard Ben Shalom talking about him on talkshite the other day saying he's demanding his hotel room be swapped. The interviewer asked if he was getting above his station as a pretty early stage pro but the reality is he's being talked about an awful lot and is always going to be an interest name on any card given everyone is hoping he gets knocked the feck out.

Ben Whittaker is an absolutely top lad, there's a lot of false narratives about him at the moment.

I'm highly unsurprised though considering his showboating doesn't at all fit the stereotypical British view of what a fighter should be, hence the instant Tall Poppy Syndrome.