The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Joe Joyce is done, looks an absolute shell of the guy he was a couple of years ago.

Plodding along against some journeyman
He was never the most dynamic, but feck me I watched round 4 and turned over to UFC. Joyce looked hopeless
 
He was never the most dynamic, but feck me I watched round 4 and turned over to UFC. Joyce looked hopeless

I should have done the same.

Hopefully he retires as he will just become a punchbag with his lack of movement. His chin will have gone now and he could be on the end of some brutal knockouts
 
I should have done the same.

Hopefully he retires as he will just become a punchbag with his lack of movement. His chin will have gone now and he could be on the end of some brutal knockouts
Was he as big when he was an amateur? I saw a few bits of his amateur career and he didn’t look the same size at all.
 
Was he as big when he was an amateur? I saw a few bits of his amateur career and he didn’t look the same size at all.


I think he was ok then got some hype after the Dubois fight which made people think he had a chin of granite.

Zhang did him and probably his punch resistance is probably gone imo
 
Well he's also 57 and didn't look the best in his last fight 4 years ago. I'd love to see him knock that YouTube eejit out though.

Eh?

He fought a recently retired Roy Jones Jr whose last fight was only three years prior and gave him a terrible time.

Roy Jones Jr was visibly relieved for the fight to end because Tyson was thumping him every round. It got to the point that Roy Jones Jr was looking for the clinch repeatedly.

If anything, Tyson looked excellent for someone in their mid-50s
 
Not looking good for Paul if these latest Tyson training videos are anything to go by. :lol:





He looks as expected. Dude has been hitting pads for 40+ years, he's going to look good and still reasonably quick/powerful. Fact is he was shot to pieces 20 years ago. I suspect he has almost zero punch resistance.

Genius marketing by Jake Paul really because certain people can't seem to look beyond the 'Mike Tyson aura' and still see him as that same invincible kid he was at 19/20, when in reality he has no business in the ring in with anybody of pro calibre (which, despite how absolutely bang average he is, Jake is)
 
He looks as expected. Dude has been hitting pads for 40+ years, he's going to look good and still reasonably quick/powerful. Fact is he was shot to pieces 20 years ago. I suspect he has almost zero punch resistance.

Genius marketing by Jake Paul really because certain people can't seem to look beyond the 'Mike Tyson aura' and still see him as that same invincible kid he was at 19/20, when in reality he has no business in the ring in with anybody of pro calibre (which, despite how absolutely bang average he is, Jake is)

Tbf to Tyson he was high as a kite most of the time when he retired wasn't he? I think he's mentally in a much better place than he used to be so it might not be as clear cut as all that.
 
He looks as expected. Dude has been hitting pads for 40+ years, he's going to look good and still reasonably quick/powerful. Fact is he was shot to pieces 20 years ago. I suspect he has almost zero punch resistance.

Genius marketing by Jake Paul really because certain people can't seem to look beyond the 'Mike Tyson aura' and still see him as that same invincible kid he was at 19/20, when in reality he has no business in the ring in with anybody of pro calibre (which, despite how absolutely bang average he is, Jake is)

It's not as if Mike bullied a recently retired Roy Jones Jr only a few years ago, whilst looking quicker and more powerful than him.

Oh wait, he did.

Tyson will wreck him the way Jones Jr was clinging for life. :lol:
 
Tbf to Tyson he was high as a kite most of the time when he retired wasn't he? I think he's mentally in a much better place than he used to be so it might not be as clear cut as all that.
Let’s be fair…..Tyson is here for the money. He’s doing his bit to build it but he needs the cash and I think actually having a competitive fight isn’t really top priority for him
 
Let’s be fair…..Tyson is here for the money. He’s doing his bit to build it but he needs the cash and I think actually having a competitive fight isn’t really top priority for him

Most likely yes, but he's not exactly the type to not try to put on a show. I couldn't care less about the fight I just think Tyson remains moderately impressive despite his advanced age.
 
He looks as expected. Dude has been hitting pads for 40+ years, he's going to look good and still reasonably quick/powerful. Fact is he was shot to pieces 20 years ago. I suspect he has almost zero punch resistance.

Genius marketing by Jake Paul really because certain people can't seem to look beyond the 'Mike Tyson aura' and still see him as that same invincible kid he was at 19/20, when in reality he has no business in the ring in with anybody of pro calibre (which, despite how absolutely bang average he is, Jake is)
Even if he were shot 30 years ago with little punch resistance, you're talking about an extremely heavy hitting era of heavyweight boxers not holding back with everything they throw. Jake Paul does not punch like they do, not even close. I can see the route via Tyson simply being exhausted, but whilst there's something in the tank, the fight is incredibly dangerous for Paul.

It's not so much the aura, rather the reality that Tyson's sequencing and work to the body and coming up to the head is ridiculous. The pad work is always impressive because he made a career out of transferring those drills into knocking people out quickly and efficiently.

Paul hasn't been in with anyone where he is the prey and they are coming to take his head off with a certainty of purpose for the little bit of time they are loaded with power and agility - Tyson isn't going to stand there pawing away with jabs and being tentative and Paul's simply not had anything like that in the ring, especially from someone whose footwork is copied and imitated to this day.

I suspect Paul will be on his toes running for dear life for the opening two rounds and will try and get into the fight after the third, probably with Tyson dead on his feet. There's no way he stands toe to toe with Tyson whilst he's fresh.
 
Suspect it will be a sham fight to go the distance with lots of holding throughout. Probably a split decision result as well to ensure a rematch is on the cards.

I would love Tyson to spark him out in the first round though!
 
Suspect it will be a sham fight to go the distance with lots of holding throughout. Probably a split decision result as well to ensure a rematch is on the cards.

I would love Tyson to spark him out in the first round though!

I'm not sure why so many folks are so confident that this fight will be an exhibition sham.

Tyson's fight with Jones Jr was supposed to be an exhibition, but instead Tyson spent all eight rounds bullying, slipping and trying to hit the knockout hook.

Folks on here are in for a stark surprise when Tyson shows up and doesn't treat it like a friendly. :lol:
 
Last time Tyson fought almost four years ago, Jones Jr. (only three years retired) spent most of the fight clinching, whilst Tyson had the cardio, speed and power to pummel him for eight rounds. 57 or not, it's sheer hubris to think Paul will be standing to the end when Roy Freakin' Jones struggled only a few years ago.

 
It's not as if Mike bullied a recently retired Roy Jones Jr only a few years ago, whilst looking quicker and more powerful than him.

Oh wait, he did.

Tyson will wreck him the way Jones Jr was clinging for life. :lol:

Recently retired... You make it sound like we're talking about a dude in his mid to late 30s. Roy is also in his 50s and was shot to pieces back in 2009. He just lost a boxing match to Showtime Pettis FFS.
 
Recently retired... You make it sound like we're talking about a dude in his mid to late 30s. Roy is also in his 50s and was shot to pieces back in 2009. He just lost a boxing match to Showtime Pettis FFS.
Yeah, Roy Jones Jrs career went on about 15 years too long.
 
Most likely yes, but he's not exactly the type to not try to put on a show. I couldn't care less about the fight I just think Tyson remains moderately impressive despite his advanced age.
Yes he’s impressive and of course we’re all hoping that the demon returns and he beats Paul to a pulp.
I just think he’ll be aware to not bite the hand that feeds
 
He's finding this one tricky. Put the excessive showboating to the side now
 
Not as good as he thinks he is; looks like he’s primed for a spectacular KO if he doesn’t stop offering his face. Got caught loads reflexively in the 3 rds I saw. Will have to actually box properly going up.
 
Naz from Wish. Next to nothing in these punches.
Tbf to Naz Whittaker really takes it to another level. One day he will get flattened if he doesn't learn. Naz wouldn't start dancing mid fight and always had his eyes on his opponent, I can't remember seeing a boxer literally look away as much as Whittaker does.

It's a shame really because he's got all the raw attributes to be an incredible boxer, he just needs to dial the showboating down.
 
What separates these types of fighters from Naz is that he had unbelievable power in both hands
 
Tbf to Naz Whittaker really takes it to another level. One day he will get flattened if he doesn't learn. Naz wouldn't start dancing mid fight and always had his eyes on his opponent, I can't remember seeing a boxer literally look away as much as Whittaker does.

It's a shame really because he's got all the raw attributes to be an incredible boxer, he just needs to dial the showboating down.
Naz could take the piss, admittedly nowhere near to the level of this guy, because opponents feared the power when he knuckled down. There's nothing to be fearful of on that front.
 
Naz could take the piss, admittedly nowhere near to the level of this guy, because opponents feared the power when he knuckled down. There's nothing to be fearful of on that front.
Of course, Naz had real power but Naz would never start dancing mid bout and just look away and point to his corner like some of the weird stuff Whittaker does. Floyd would also take the piss a little despite not really having the power (especially towards the end of his career) but I feel the whole dancing and looking away thing will end up in a big embarrassment for him if he doesn't cut it out.

There's a difference between fighting with your hands down and trying to bait your opponent/ taking the piss when your opponent is practically finished than starting to breakdance and look away in the middle of a combination. He's overdoing it imo and I'm not really a fan of it.

 
Of course, Naz had real power but Naz would never start dancing mid bout and just look away and point to his corner like some of the weird stuff Whittaker does. Floyd would also take the piss a little despite not really having the power (especially towards the end of his career) but I feel the whole dancing and looking away thing will end up in a big embarrassment for him if he doesn't cut it out.

There's a difference between fighting with your hands down and trying to bait your opponent/ taking the piss when your opponent is practically finished than starting to breakdance and look away in the middle of a combination. He's overdoing it imo and I'm not really a fan of it.

He looks like a dope and as you say there's no real point to it. He's making a fool of himself, more so than the opponent.