Feels like they were supposed to confirm the date for Fury v Usyk in the ring last night, but Fury taking a beating threw it up in the air. They had a face-off, Usyk had lines prepared announcing the date in broken English, but Warren had to stress about Fury’s cuts to put it on hold.
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So disappointing to watch that.
Fury was severely underprepared and lost by a country mile, hardly laid a glove on him.
Anyone who says any different is talking complete bollocks. A clearly rigged “decision “
Hopefully he can get himself up for the uysk fight, if he’s anything as bad as last night he’ll get dismantled.
Fury was severely underprepared and lost by a country mile, hardly laid a glove on him.
Anyone who says any different is talking complete bollocks. A clearly rigged “decision “
Hopefully he can get himself up for the uysk fight, if he’s anything as bad as last night he’ll get dismantled.
If you switched performances and Fury landed the big shots, got a knockdown and generally didn't look like he had been through a war at the end, do we think N'gannou gets the win? And if he does is it fuelled with huge controversy?
Also the commentators at the start of round 10 clearly thought Fury was behind saying he needed a knock out.
Also the commentators at the start of round 10 clearly thought Fury was behind saying he needed a knock out.
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Ngannou should go pro, why the hell not, he did very well.
The fight against Usyk was NEVER happening in December, I'm more worried about it not happening at all. Don't think Tyson took it very seriously tonight, but either way he'll continue trying to duck an opponent he knows for sure will trouble him.
I just can't believe how much I've turned on Fury and just hope I get to see him knocked out before his career ends
The fight against Usyk was NEVER happening in December, I'm more worried about it not happening at all. Don't think Tyson took it very seriously tonight, but either way he'll continue trying to duck an opponent he knows for sure will trouble him.
I just can't believe how much I've turned on Fury and just hope I get to see him knocked out before his career ends
Same! I used to be a big fan but I find him annoying more than anything now.Ngannou should go pro, why the hell not, he did very well.
The fight against Usyk was NEVER happening in December, I'm more worried about it not happening at all. Don't think Tyson took it very seriously tonight, but either way he'll continue trying to duck an opponent he knows for sure will trouble him.
I just can't believe how much I've turned on Fury and just hope I get to see him knocked out before his career ends
Said a few times before the fight this was supposed to be part and parcel of the whole promo - Francis made easy work of and a segue into a Usyk showdown.
Fury was not at all with it post fight and promotion was the last thing on his mind at a time when he was processing the shambles that had just transpired.
The commentators were being way too giddy about Ngannou all night. Like a lot of people on here. He was decent but not amazing. Seemed completely gassed for most of the middle rounds and ate that jab all night long. The result was fair. Fury was well below par but just about shaded it. Which is how every boxing expert I’ve read saw it. Yet apparently redcafe (and MMA fans) know best. Go figure.
It was a crap fight, being spun into some sort of epic, by casual fans who were way too invested in the Ngannou fairytale. As per the Gary Lineker tweet posted above.
“Fury seemed flat and all out of ideas as a quiet and almost bewildered crowd watched the final two rounds. Weariness also took its toll and Fury did not attempt to force the pace. It was almost as if he believed that the judges would favour him and so he allowed his fate to be protected by their decision-making.”
“For the dwindling band of purists and romantics who cling to the notion that boxing can still be a noble and uplifting sport this was another night tainted by contention.”
Guardian nearly summing up both the occasion and how I feel about the whole farce
“For the dwindling band of purists and romantics who cling to the notion that boxing can still be a noble and uplifting sport this was another night tainted by contention.”
Guardian nearly summing up both the occasion and how I feel about the whole farce
You're right, he does need to prepare better and look something like he has over the last few years against Usyk. But let's not forget that Usyk had his own robbery of his own against Dubois.
This sport is so fixed man, day light robbery that was not even close. What’s the point watching it.
Fury is apparently a disgrace and embarrassment
A guy that was 33-0, world champion, undefeated and got in there with a legit fighter no matter what experience he has in boxing, is a disgrace and embarrassment because he struggled and had an off night and looked like he had lost the fight? It’s silly season again I see.
Fair enough to think he lost that fight but it doesn’t make him a disgrace or any of these things or suddenly a bum that’s a shit boxer ffs, stop being silly. I’m sure he feels like a huge embarrassment being 34-0 in boxing, a world champion just having been paid millions upon millions that will change his families lives forever and fighting at the top level in front of millions of people while some people at home at 1 in the morning are typing he’s an embarrassment and disgrace on social media and online.
Say he lost the fight. Say it was a robbery. Say he would lose to Usyk. But let’s not turn this into the embarrassing match day threads ffs.
A guy that was 33-0, world champion, undefeated and got in there with a legit fighter no matter what experience he has in boxing, is a disgrace and embarrassment because he struggled and had an off night and looked like he had lost the fight? It’s silly season again I see.
Fair enough to think he lost that fight but it doesn’t make him a disgrace or any of these things or suddenly a bum that’s a shit boxer ffs, stop being silly. I’m sure he feels like a huge embarrassment being 34-0 in boxing, a world champion just having been paid millions upon millions that will change his families lives forever and fighting at the top level in front of millions of people while some people at home at 1 in the morning are typing he’s an embarrassment and disgrace on social media and online.
Say he lost the fight. Say it was a robbery. Say he would lose to Usyk. But let’s not turn this into the embarrassing match day threads ffs.
The same Guardian who had Fury winning on points for most of the fight and at the end of their minute by minute coverage.
I thought Fury seemed almost upset in the post fight interviews etc. Think he realised he messed up, maybe didn't take it seriously enough or he's realised things are catching up to him. He just kept repeating the same things as though he didn't want to talk.
I was quite shocked by some of the things Fury got wrong or just didn't do. His footwork seemed sluggish, his timing was all off and Ngannou was hardly a difficult target. There was a lot wrong and the question now will be whether time has caught up or if it was an issue with his prep. He claims to have took it seriously, though I have seen him look ring rusty before after big periods out of the ring. This was by far the worst I've seen him. Probably worse than vs Cunningham.
He fought an amateur in his first pro boxing match, got hammered, and had to rely on a robbery. It is embarrassing. So is his incessant ducking.Fury is apparently a disgrace and embarrassment
A guy that was 33-0, world champion, undefeated and got in there with a legit fighter no matter what experience he has in boxing, is a disgrace and embarrassment because he struggled and had an off night and looked like he had lost the fight? It’s silly season again I see.
Fair enough to think he lost that fight but it doesn’t make him a disgrace or any of these things or suddenly a bum that’s a shit boxer ffs, stop being silly. I’m sure he feels like a huge embarrassment being 34-0 in boxing, a world champion just having been paid millions upon millions that will change his families lives forever and fighting at the top level in front of millions of people while some people at home at 1 in the morning are typing he’s an embarrassment and disgrace on social media and online.
Say he lost the fight. Say it was a robbery. Say he would lose to Usyk. But let’s not turn this into the embarrassing match day threads ffs.
That's the thing with boxing, when you score it as the sport it is then you can arrive at the correct conclusion. But sometimes the context and overall feel of the fight can overshadow that. It used to drive those that hated Mayweather around the bend to see him not be the aggressor so often but get the decisions.
I’m not a boxing expert at all but I’ve a couple of friends who and they both had Fury winning (or a draw) at the end of the fight.
Most of my friends who don’t watch a lot of boxing were outraged at the result.
Even I could see why Fury won though. I thought he won 6 or 7 rounds handily enough. His jab was very effective and he landed a few heavy shots. It was a terrible fight to watch. Neither of them looked particularly great. Fury seemed a shadow of his usual self
What I've been saying for ages.
Watched the highlights and yep boxing is really is a parody sport of itself. “Battle Of The Baddest “
Very funny but also very stupid.
Very funny but also very stupid.
30 seconds of footage?
Don't think it will happen sadly. Jones is injured and Ngannou now moved onto new promotions.
I like Ngannou a lot but AJ or wilder do him in 3 rounds.
So you think, fair fight, fair result, nothing to see here?
Crap fight, fair result, nothing to see here (that we haven’t seen loads of times before)
Ngannou should go pro, why the hell not, he did very well.
The fight against Usyk was NEVER happening in December, I'm more worried about it not happening at all. Don't think Tyson took it very seriously tonight, but either way he'll continue trying to duck an opponent he knows for sure will trouble him.
I just can't believe how much I've turned on Fury and just hope I get to see him knocked out before his career ends
I wouldn't be surprised if Fury ducks Usyk and calls for a Francis rematch because of the controversial nature of the fight and dismantles him making a ton of money
Almost. A 8 minute YouTube video with most of the time spent on the entrances and post fight interviews.
Personally don't see the robbery, when Ngannou won the rounds he did, he won by a comfortable margin which is probably why people are arguing he shouldve won, but Tyson did enough to win the rounds he did, and especially towards the latter of the fight (outside round 8). Over the course of the 12 rounds, he did get more punches in too.
Easily could've ended up going Ngannou's way, as the rounds were all close, but some people here seem to only recall the takedown/round 8 when Ngannou was all over Tyson. He doesn't get extra points for that.
Not a great contest, and wouldn't have argued the result either way.
Easily could've ended up going Ngannou's way, as the rounds were all close, but some people here seem to only recall the takedown/round 8 when Ngannou was all over Tyson. He doesn't get extra points for that.
Not a great contest, and wouldn't have argued the result either way.
Bit disingenuous. Fury dominated Wlad and won by UD. Nobody was saying Wlad was washed up till, of course, Tyson beat him. He still gave AJ a bit of a fight 2 years later in his last ever fight and even knocked him down. Wilder was the one everyone wanted AJ to fight, but he never did. Of course, once Fury demolishes him everyone suddenly downplays him too, even though he probably still is one of the most dangerous fighters in the division.
Fury is apparently a disgrace and embarrassment
A guy that was 33-0, world champion, undefeated and got in there with a legit fighter no matter what experience he has in boxing, is a disgrace and embarrassment because he struggled and had an off night and looked like he had lost the fight? It’s silly season again I see.
Fair enough to think he lost that fight but it doesn’t make him a disgrace or any of these things or suddenly a bum that’s a shit boxer ffs, stop being silly. I’m sure he feels like a huge embarrassment being 34-0 in boxing, a world champion just having been paid millions upon millions that will change his families lives forever and fighting at the top level in front of millions of people while some people at home at 1 in the morning are typing he’s an embarrassment and disgrace on social media and online.
Say he lost the fight. Say it was a robbery. Say he would lose to Usyk. But let’s not turn this into the embarrassing match day threads ffs.
Alright Tyson, you still got paid and won the fight, calm down.
Fair enough.
I never had a dad, but now I know how people feel when they say, “god my dads a stubborn old bugger”
I don’t think Fury did near enough, he didn’t even outwork Ngannou to any degree.
People saying Fury or it wasn’t a robbery are giving every close round to Tyson and that’s not how it works. That’s just looking for reasons to judge if it was a robbery or not so it’s naturally a bias in Tyson’s favour.
Except it’s not true at all.
He was expected to lose to Wlad, who he beat on his home turf, comfortably, if you have a problem about the rematch, fine.
Wilder took the first fight thinking Fury wouldn’t be back to his best, he went to America, beat him and got jobbed on the scorecards with a dodgy knockdown counted even though he was a shot behind the head.
I mean, Fury outlanded Ngannou every round except 3,4 and 8, round 3 was the knockdown which is a 10-8, round 8 Ngannou landed one more punch in probably what was his best round outside of 3.
The whole event left a nasty taste in the mouth. It's truly quite sad seeing what boxing has done to itself.
As per the post above, Fury outpunched in most rounds, he did enough to win the rounds, and that's why he was winning the close rounds at the end of the day. I think it was round 8 as well where a big chunk of Ngannou's 59 punches landed, a round in which he won (obviously), but he didn't do much outside of those dominate rounds. From what I saw in the close rounds Tyson had the edge, he was very conservative and it wasn't by all means a great performance or anything, but he did enough for the 10-9 in those rounds, and apparently, 2/3 of the judges agree with that.
Again, not saying by any means that Fury absolutely should've won, like with my post, I said I wouldn't have argued the score either way, but it's a 10 round fight, not a 2 round where just 3 and 8 matter.
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We're never going to see usyk, now.
Forget Fury, Usyk, Anderson, Sanche or whoever, Moses Itauma is the next big thing in the heavy weight boxing World. Best heavy weight I’ve seen since a teenage Mike Tyson.
This. It’s become more like YouTube boxing. The result, spectacle & money is everything. Sports got precious little to do with it now
Disingenuous or not it's a fact outside of Wlad and Wilder his record is unbelievably bad