It's just an annoyance thing, it's like it's 'cool' to not respect your fellow professionals. There's promotion and then there's just talking pure shite trying to act the hard man before getting knocked out.
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It's just an annoyance thing, it's like it's 'cool' to not respect your fellow professionals. There's promotion and then there's just talking pure shite trying to act the hard man before getting knocked out.
Well, I kinda see where you're coming from, but it comes with the territory. Imagine if boxers had the personality of Alan Shearer for example, devoid of any charisma, constantly streaming recycled quotes from the conveyor belt of public relations "Yeah, it'll be a tough match, but i've got the quality to win".
It wouldn't quite generate the same publicity, would it? The press conference earlier between Cleverly and Bellew + Degale and Groves was TV gold
I don't care about trash talk, it's to be expected. it's a fight after all but what grates me with DeGale is that after the Olympics i liked him, during it i liked him, he was an honest and likable lad but now he's a pro he feels the need to just talk shit all the time which goes against what i thought was his personality. It seems very false.
If that's your actual personality, to get in the face of everyone then it can be quite entertaining. Like a James Toney for example but then he would talk and and back it up. DeGale has done nothing so far yet talks like he's done it all when before he was the "happy to be here" type. it's the falseness of his personality that grates.
But that's all it is now... just recycled shite from the other end of the spectrum, 'yeah I'm gonna smash his face in, KO him, I'm gonna KO him, he's going to hit the deck.'
Basically I see boxers running their mouth now and think 'yeah yeah blah blah heard it all before just fecking fight each other and see who the best boxer is, don't need this pantomime.'
I guess I just don't see the point in bigging yourself up when there's a chance you are going to get embarrassed and knocked out yourself. I prefer people who just get in the ring and get the job done and provide an exciting fight.
With DeGale as has just been said, it's not just the promo. It's just how he is everywhere, talking shite playing the big man all the time like he's 10 men. His Soccer AM interview was cringeworthy.
It's also not like the playful piss taking like say Mayweather on Sky Sports talking about Hatton, but it's actual sneering like he really considers himself to be on another level as a person to the rest of us. I hate that attitude in people. I prefer the matey pally guy to that.
it's got a time and a place but it's such a put on with DeGale. His ring entrance is embarassing, his whole attitude and style is an embarassment and it seems so manufactured to create hype and to be fair it does work. People want to see him lose.
Groves is a far more likable character and i think it'll be a great fight, i want Groves to win but if DeGale does i hope he doesnt take a step back, i hope he starts gunning for the big names and is a busy fighter that proves he isnt all talk but for a fighter who hasnt even won anything big or even had a tough fight it's embarassing.
I mean look at Prince Naseem, he was as cocky and arrogant as anyone but you could at least tell it was a bit tongue in cheek. Or could you?
A startling revelation.
Bellew pulled. Couldn't make weight. Shocking.
Sky should refund anyone who has paid for this card and stick it on Sky Sports 1.
Boxingscene
Sky should refund anyone who has paid for this card and stick it on Sky Sports 1.
Boxingscene
can't believe this is still pay per view, customers who have ordered should be refunded and it should be switched to sky sports.
How can they keep that card PPV? HOW!?
Seen that before, class. That's the sort of thing I want to happen to all these cocky cnuts. 'Yeah I'm gonna KO him, come *** day ees gonna be screamin ma name innit bruv. He doesn't stand a chance, he be cryin for his momma.' WHAM KOd in one. Serves you right you cocky twat.
It's a PPV because the undercard is still stacked.
Smigga, Gavin, Saunders, Sexton and Cook all fighting as well as the Degale/Groves fight although I suspect that will be made the headliner to keep people in as nobody will really care about Clev vs the Pole.
And if you're pissed about your 15 quid, I paid to go see it so nobody feels more rushed than me!
Smigga, Gavin, Saunders, Sexton and Cook all fighting as well as the Degale/Groves fight although I suspect that will be made the headliner to keep people in as nobody will really care about Clev vs the Pole.
And if you're pissed about your 15 quid, I paid to go see it so nobody feels more rushed than me!
I think as Bam said below he paces himself, and whilst his power means he is always a threat he isn't as blistering late on as he is when he starts a fight. On the other hand if you give him reason Pac will thrash you same pace for 12 rounds. That's more what I meant
It's frowned upon but you can get away with it, most use it as a range finder to be sure that your oppo is in punching distance. Another of Wlad's tactics is to stand on your foot to ensure you are in range (he did it to Ibragimov in one of the WORST fights I've seen in my life!)
It's not a proper video though, he has black gloves on when doing his ring entrance and red gloves on when fighting.
I'm not pissed about it, I would never pay £15 for non-headline fight night is all. DeGale isn't headline worthy yet.
I would argue that Cleverly isn't, either.
I have no qualms ponying up for quality fights, but the rush to get certain fighters on PPV years before they actually warrant it, is killing the sport.
I have no qualms ponying up for quality fights, but the rush to get certain fighters on PPV years before they actually warrant it, is killing the sport.
Neither are it's just that Degale Groves is one the bigger domestic fights that can be made right now whilst Cleverly was meant to be/is a world title fight
Anyone watching Borenard/Pascal 2?
Roy Jones just got brutally KO'd by Lebedev. Shocking stuff from the ref.
Hopefully this'll make him realise it's time to retire.
Hopefully this'll make him realise it's time to retire.
I was just going to post this after seeing it on Boxingscene. Did you see the fight?
Yeah there were a couple of streams on Myp2p. Jones looked pretty good for the first couple of rounds but just couldn't keep up.
The stoppage was unbelievable though. Jones was completely out on his feet and the ref just stood there and let Lebedev take another swing. Looked really serious for a few minutes. He came so close to lasting the distance as well, it literally happened right at the end of the final round.
I expect that there'll be some videos knocking about later. You'll be shocked by the ref when you see it. Ridiculous incompetence.
The stoppage was unbelievable though. Jones was completely out on his feet and the ref just stood there and let Lebedev take another swing. Looked really serious for a few minutes. He came so close to lasting the distance as well, it literally happened right at the end of the final round.
I expect that there'll be some videos knocking about later. You'll be shocked by the ref when you see it. Ridiculous incompetence.
Diabolical refereeing. Lebedev even turned to the ref to tell him to stop it before he threw the last punch. It was a scary few minutes when Roy was unconscious on the floor. It was a surprisingly entertaining fight though. Gutsy effort from Roy with the odd moment where his old class shoen through. Some of those lead rights he threw were brilliant, and I thought Lebedev was gone for a split second at the end of the 9th. Roy needs to call it quits.
Just watched it. Smoger is an asshole. Roid was fecked.
Yeah Jones landed some nice shots (and yeah he defo hurt Lebedev in the 9th) but never really followed them up... don't think his energy levels would allow it. He's still got his handspeed though, which I find pretty remarkable.
Anyway tonight should be fun. DeGale will look class again I think, he keeps improving with every fight and I see it happening again tonight. This is worth a watch if you haven't seen it btw:
Piss funny. As for Hopkins-Pascal, will probs just download that tomorrow cos I'm knackered but there's been plenty of friction between them recently. Pascal implied that Hopkins is using performance enhancers so Hopkins replied with some massive rant at a press conference and warned people not to be shocked if Pascal "dies in the ring", or summat like that...
Different fight. He's wearing different gloves in the ring compared to the ring walk
Boxingscene.
What times Degale v Groves?
its about to start
DeGale getting heavily booed on way to ring.
Both fighters look tense so far I got it 1-1 as we go in to round 3
It's pretty tight, may be level now after six
I got it 4-3 to Groves so far after 7.
Groves saves by the bell there
I have DeGale by one after that round
a draw?
I've got DeGale by two
I watched it on radio...which means I've got no idea.
I really hope DeGale loses.
Groves won!