Adam Booth confirms it is signed. In Germany, June 25th, or July 2nd.
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Get in. That should be a cracking fight. Do you reckon he will hang around for Vitali if he wins?
Booth said exactly that.
At last.This should repair some of the damage done to the heavy weight scene.
About time they got this organised.
Great news. I reckon Haye will knock him out.
and Haye get all this shit about pulling out of fights second time Wlad has done this to Chisora now.
He will get his chance one day, Haye vs Wlad is a superfight.
What, for him then to retire, and a possible unified champion then turns into four different champions again?
You are correct in what you are saying, but if Haye were to beat both brothers, there is no one left worth sticking around to fight.
David Haye will fight Vitali Klitschko this summer - if his brother Wladimir pulls out of their world heavyweight title unification showdown with injury.
Londoner Haye, the WBA heavyweight champion, finally agreed a deal to fight IBF/WBO king Wladimir over the weekend.
However, the Klitschkos' manager Bernd Boente has revealed that the contract signed does not specify which of the Ukrainian siblings he will meet.
Should Wladimir fail to recover from an abdominal injury before the end of June, Haye could instead fight his brother Vitali, the WBC champion.
Boente - who also confirmed they are exploring possible venues outside Germany for the fight on June 25 or July 2 - said: "It could also be Vitali.
"In the talks, David was not rejecting Vitali any more, he was very flexible. That was never negotiated.
"Knock on wood it's not the case, but should anything happen injury-wise (to Wladimir), as long as it is not three days before the fight or whatever, then Vitali could be the opponent. But first of all Vitali has to win his fight against Odlanier Solis on March 19 which will be a pretty tough fight."
While the contest was expected to be held in a football stadium in Germany, Boente revealed "two or three" options in other countries were also under consideration but insisted it would definitely not be in England or the United States.
"It is not 100% going to be in Germany," he said.
"The stadiums in Dortmund, Gelsenkirchen and Kaiserslautern are available and very interested in staging it.
"There are two or three other options that we are exploring in other countries. Honestly, that is only to maximise revenues. In the end it is not about home advantage or whatever. That is a key understanding between Adam (Booth, Haye's manager) and myself. Adam is with me in the driving seat, we will discuss these things together.
"We'll work out which stadium we use 100% as partners, be it in Germany or outside of Germany.
"I can't tell you where but they are all in Europe - but not England. Las Vegas and the United States was never an option because this fight has to be prime time in Europe, especially because the fight is pay-per-view.
"It will be around 10.15pm English time, 11.15pm German time. That is what we are looking for."
While Wladimir is expected to be in the opposite corner against Haye, there will inevitably be a degree of doubt after he twice pulled out of a voluntary title defence against Dereck Chisora with an abdominal injury.
He cancelled a fight against Haye's fellow Londoner in December after suffering the injury days before the bout and, despite rescheduling it for April 30, pulled out for a second time on Saturday because the problem is healing slowly.
Haye and the Klitschkos have been involved in on-off negotiations for more than two years - Haye himself withdrew from a 2009 fight against Wladimir with a back injury - and Boente revealed talks were far smoother this time around.
He also revealed the contract is a simple one-bout arrangement, with a general understanding that Haye would fight one brother first and then the other in the autumn, before his planned retirement in October.
"It is a one-fight deal. We didn't want to complicate it too much. Contrary to what was always said, in the end Adam and myself got along absolutely okay.
"The good thing this time was that the group of people negotiating and talking was very, very small.
"It was really just on their side Adam and his lawyer, and on ours Shelly Finkel (the Klitschkos' US advisor) and myself and it was very simple, very easy and we were really all acting as gentlemen. There were no problems.
"I think it is a very fair deal for both sides. Nobody can see himself as the winner or loser and if everything goes the right way from a revenue point we are all winners.
"It's a huge fight, not only for England, Germany and Ukraine but also for boxing fans around the world. It's one of the biggest, most massive fights with the biggest impact you can do at the moment, because nobody knows if the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao fight will ever happen."
Boente revealed the definitive date for the bout will depend on where it is held.
"It really depends on the different stadiums, because not all of the three mentioned could do July 2. But those dates are agreed by the Hayemaker side and Sky."
Londoner Haye, the WBA heavyweight champion, finally agreed a deal to fight IBF/WBO king Wladimir over the weekend.
However, the Klitschkos' manager Bernd Boente has revealed that the contract signed does not specify which of the Ukrainian siblings he will meet.
Should Wladimir fail to recover from an abdominal injury before the end of June, Haye could instead fight his brother Vitali, the WBC champion.
Boente - who also confirmed they are exploring possible venues outside Germany for the fight on June 25 or July 2 - said: "It could also be Vitali.
"In the talks, David was not rejecting Vitali any more, he was very flexible. That was never negotiated.
"Knock on wood it's not the case, but should anything happen injury-wise (to Wladimir), as long as it is not three days before the fight or whatever, then Vitali could be the opponent. But first of all Vitali has to win his fight against Odlanier Solis on March 19 which will be a pretty tough fight."
While the contest was expected to be held in a football stadium in Germany, Boente revealed "two or three" options in other countries were also under consideration but insisted it would definitely not be in England or the United States.
"It is not 100% going to be in Germany," he said.
"The stadiums in Dortmund, Gelsenkirchen and Kaiserslautern are available and very interested in staging it.
"There are two or three other options that we are exploring in other countries. Honestly, that is only to maximise revenues. In the end it is not about home advantage or whatever. That is a key understanding between Adam (Booth, Haye's manager) and myself. Adam is with me in the driving seat, we will discuss these things together.
"We'll work out which stadium we use 100% as partners, be it in Germany or outside of Germany.
"I can't tell you where but they are all in Europe - but not England. Las Vegas and the United States was never an option because this fight has to be prime time in Europe, especially because the fight is pay-per-view.
"It will be around 10.15pm English time, 11.15pm German time. That is what we are looking for."
While Wladimir is expected to be in the opposite corner against Haye, there will inevitably be a degree of doubt after he twice pulled out of a voluntary title defence against Dereck Chisora with an abdominal injury.
He cancelled a fight against Haye's fellow Londoner in December after suffering the injury days before the bout and, despite rescheduling it for April 30, pulled out for a second time on Saturday because the problem is healing slowly.
Haye and the Klitschkos have been involved in on-off negotiations for more than two years - Haye himself withdrew from a 2009 fight against Wladimir with a back injury - and Boente revealed talks were far smoother this time around.
He also revealed the contract is a simple one-bout arrangement, with a general understanding that Haye would fight one brother first and then the other in the autumn, before his planned retirement in October.
"It is a one-fight deal. We didn't want to complicate it too much. Contrary to what was always said, in the end Adam and myself got along absolutely okay.
"The good thing this time was that the group of people negotiating and talking was very, very small.
"It was really just on their side Adam and his lawyer, and on ours Shelly Finkel (the Klitschkos' US advisor) and myself and it was very simple, very easy and we were really all acting as gentlemen. There were no problems.
"I think it is a very fair deal for both sides. Nobody can see himself as the winner or loser and if everything goes the right way from a revenue point we are all winners.
"It's a huge fight, not only for England, Germany and Ukraine but also for boxing fans around the world. It's one of the biggest, most massive fights with the biggest impact you can do at the moment, because nobody knows if the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao fight will ever happen."
Boente revealed the definitive date for the bout will depend on where it is held.
"It really depends on the different stadiums, because not all of the three mentioned could do July 2. But those dates are agreed by the Hayemaker side and Sky."
Big two weekends coming up for Irish fighting fans. Andy Lee vs Craig McEwan this weekend and Casey v Rigondeaux, Magee v Bute the following weekend. Out of the 3 I would expect Lee to win and the other two to lose in spirited fashion.
I feel Casey might have a chance against Rigondeaux as if Casey's power hurts him and he backs off like he did against Cordoba it would be interesting to see how judges would score it considering it is in Ireland. I can't really see Magee winning as Bute is proven at the top level wheras Magee has generally fallen just short at top level, I'll still hope for an upset though.
I feel Casey might have a chance against Rigondeaux as if Casey's power hurts him and he backs off like he did against Cordoba it would be interesting to see how judges would score it considering it is in Ireland. I can't really see Magee winning as Bute is proven at the top level wheras Magee has generally fallen just short at top level, I'll still hope for an upset though.
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Some good fights this weekend, pretty jam packed
Cotto vs. Mayorga
Martinez vs Dzinziruk
Andy Lee vs Craig McEwan
Ricky Burns vs Joseph Laryea
Miguel Vazquez vs Leonardo Zappavigna
Anyone been following the press conferences for Cotto-Mayorga? Even though I am Cotto fan, I wasn't that interested in the fight, however love him or hate him, Don King can really sell a fight, Mayorga is great value as well.
Some good fights this weekend, pretty jam packed
Cotto vs. Mayorga
Martinez vs Dzinziruk
Andy Lee vs Craig McEwan
Ricky Burns vs Joseph Laryea
Miguel Vazquez vs Leonardo Zappavigna
Anyone been following the press conferences for Cotto-Mayorga? Even though I am Cotto fan, I wasn't that interested in the fight, however love him or hate him, Don King can really sell a fight, Mayorga is great value as well.
Yeah looking forward to Cotto and Mayorga. Cotto should batter him really but the build up has been entertaining. Martinez vs. Dziniruk - one for the boxing purists out there. Good to see Martinez back in action anyway, he's a class act.
Does anyone know in or around what time the Andy Lee v Craig McEwan fight is on tonight?
Degale fighting now, the level of opponent they still have him fighting is a farce, would love to see the cocky git get his head knocked off.
Well done Andy Lee, great come back, didn't fight his best fight tonight (conditioning looked poor for some reason) was behind up until the final round & then out of no where he landed a beautiful one two & McEwan was on the deck. Lee as entertaining as always, Great fight.
Cotto and Martinez both won last night.
Check out Solis, looks like he has actually trained for this fight.
Check out Solis, looks like he has actually trained for this fight.
was a great fight, dissapointed for McEwan, had Lee badly hurt but rushed it and couldnt find the shots to end it. THen tired at the end gets caught by a big one two which hurt him badly, he'd ran out of steam in the latter rounds.
He was winning the fight and boxing well, hope he can learn from his misakes and come back stronger. I'd love to see a rematch.
Just about to watch Lee-McEwan now, heard it was a good scrap.
Watched Martinez last night... guy's just a beast. Never seen Dzinziruk before but he was touted as the sort of guy it's impossible to look good against. Well Martinez looked ridiculously good.
Great fighter and brilliant to watch as well. Shame there's a lack of big fights out there for him.
Watched Martinez last night... guy's just a beast. Never seen Dzinziruk before but he was touted as the sort of guy it's impossible to look good against. Well Martinez looked ridiculously good.
Great fighter and brilliant to watch as well. Shame there's a lack of big fights out there for him.
Not long to go now until Willie 'Big Bang' Casey enters the ring.
10pm, RTE 2 for anyone thats interested.
10pm, RTE 2 for anyone thats interested.
wow no clash of fights tonight....
Klitschko wins in 1 round, didn't look like much of a punch.
Feel bad for Solis, knee just blew out there.
Well that was a bit ridiculous, and Jim Watt really is a bit of a clown as well, "Another dominating performance from Klitschko".
Lets hope Rigondeaux meets a similar end.
Lets hope Rigondeaux meets a similar end.
Cant see this one ending well.
Rigondeaux To Win in Rounds 1-3 @ 9/2 isnt the worst bet Ive ever seen. Hope Im wrong
Rigondeaux To Win in Rounds 1-3 @ 9/2 isnt the worst bet Ive ever seen. Hope Im wrong
Touch of the Father Teds off this crowd............
Rigondeauxs body shots are amazing.
edit.........all over 1st round. Casey hadnt a prayer. World class stuff
edit.........all over 1st round. Casey hadnt a prayer. World class stuff
Had a feeling that would happen.
Booked tickets for DeGale/Groves with a few pals, strange but it (Cleverly) will be only my second title fight
Booked tickets for DeGale/Groves with a few pals, strange but it (Cleverly) will be only my second title fight
Not sure about that one, nor is Vitali by the sounds of it.
I'd say that will be well worth the money, Groves & DeGale is almost a main event by itself. If Warren can get a few good undercard fights that could be one of the best cards of the year.
Big pity about Casey though, expected it though so can't say I'm too disappointed, certainly not close to either of Bernard Dunne's losses.
Now just have to hope Magee puts in a good performance against Bute tonight. Not to hopefull but certainly can't be much worse than that.
Now just have to hope Magee puts in a good performance against Bute tonight. Not to hopefull but certainly can't be much worse than that.
Being reported torn ligaments for Solis.
Hoping they can get Murray/Mitchell sorted but not hopeful
Also have press accreditation for Khan/McCloskey but haven't got the money to travel to Manchester and stay over so I'll have to pass
How would you see that one going if it was made? I don't know how Mitchell will react after his first loss, but I'd fancy him to take it if he has learned from it rather than been affected in a bad way. Would be a good scrap though.
Khan and McCloskey should be interesting, I see Khan winning, but McCloskey could pull something out of the bag with one of those hooks from an awkward angle that Khan doesn't see coming. As a matter of interest, do you know if Roach is travelling over with him for the fight?
I like Murray looks a tough bastard but I think the fact he has more or less been discarded and Murray is the hot English LW should give him all the motivation he needs but I don't think Mitchell can show Murray anything that will make think 'shit!' whilst Mitchell has been rocked and stopped so that will play on his mind.
That's an interesting point about Roach but I think Khan in of an importance now that he will have to, will leaving Pac with Buboy for a few days have that much of an impact on the Mosley fight? Doubt it to be honest
That's an interesting point about Roach but I think Khan in of an importance now that he will have to, will leaving Pac with Buboy for a few days have that much of an impact on the Mosley fight? Doubt it to be honest
Anyone see Gamboa-Solis last night? Savage stuff from Gamboa - Solis reckons he hits harder than Pac. Those lead left hook followed by right hand combos were jaw-dropping. Anyone wants a link PM me.
Yeah Gamboa is a force of nature when he's in that kind of form. Ridiculous handspeed with devastating power to boot. Such a fun guy to watch.
Hopefully the Lopez fight gets made sooner rather than later, he stepped into the ring during the interviews and both guys said they want the fight to happen. If only it was that simple...
Hopefully the Lopez fight gets made sooner rather than later, he stepped into the ring during the interviews and both guys said they want the fight to happen. If only it was that simple...
I used to like JuanMa but he is on Pavlik status for me, I want Gamboa to stick it to him and I expect him to do so. Both have questionable chins (Roy claimed that Gamboa's is because he's off balance but I doubt so) and can punch like feck. There has been talk of JuanMa using 'Tito' wraps helping with his punching power but feck it I'm not fussed I just want to see the fight!