The RedCafe Boxing Thread

Whens this one on? Hes the lad from limerick who won the sky fightnight thing isnt he? RTE?

19th March at the City West Deco & yeah Willie is the lad from Limerick, a traveler & a real character. It'll be some night especially if he pulls it off, a lot aren't giving Big Bang a chance but i know i'll be putting my money on him, KO round 6! TV3 i believe are televising it.

Promo Vid.
 
I would be massively surprised if Casey came away with a win. Rigondeaux has not look amazing as a pro, as yet, which is only 7 fights in however, but that's more to do with expectation.

I see it being quite similar to Hatton-Mayweather, Rigondeaux pot-shotting him all night long.
 
Saw him against Cordoba & if i'm honest, nothing really stood out for me. He only just about got the better of Cordoba in the last round A boring enough fight. I know he was supposed to be a cracking amateur but so far he hasn't looked that great as a pro certainly not as good as some are making out. I'm confident Willie on his night can take him, yourself & 'Me thinks not' are obviously not. There was bigger & better than Rigondeaux taken down over the years though.

I beg to differ
 
Rigoneaux's pretty much had to be the aggressor in all his pro fights so far, which doesn't really suit him. Don't recall seeing him in the am's (although it's likely I'll have seen him in the Olympics at some stage) but you can tell that he's quality from the handful of pro fights he's had. His reflexes, timing, shot placement and speed all look pretty amazing but whenever I've seen him he's looked reluctant to let his hands go.

Hopefully, as he starts to fight better opponents, or guys who will take the fight to him, we'll see that counterpunching ability of his shine through. I'm intrigued really, his amateur record speaks for itself and he's been called one of the best amateurs ever, so yeah there is a lot of hype for him to live up to, hopefully he can deliver.
 
I've a feeling Casey's style will be ideal for Rigoneaux. Its be a great fight to watch that much Im sure of... heres a decent preview I found

Willie Casey vs. Guillermo Rigondeaux Preview & Prediction

Limerick’s favorite son, Willie Casey, is set for the test of his career when he faces two time Olympic Gold medalist Guillermo Rigondeaux. Up for grabs is the interim WBA World super bantamweight belt, which Rigondeaux claimed by split decision in his last bout against Ricardo Cordoba. This fight is intriguing, not least because of the hugely disparate paths the two men have taken to arrive at this point in their careers.

Rigondeaux, a Cuban defector, is an all-time amateur great who has seen more gold around his neck than BA Baracus, while Casey was an undistinguished amateur who may have toiled in obscurity as a professional had it not been for his upset win in Sky Sports’ Prizefighter tournament. The other interesting counterpoint is the clash of styles; Rigondeaux is a highly-technical outside fighter, every bit as adept at racking up points as in his amateur days, whereas Casey is a heavy-handed pressure fighter that likes to box at phone-booth range. Witnessing which man can impose his style on the other and emerge victorious will be one hell of a spectacle.

Willie Casey (11-0, 7 KOs)
Casey is of Irish gypsy stock and, amazingly, is one of 22 siblings. With such a large family, the Caseys are clearly staunch Catholics, so it is safe to assume the moniker ‘Big Bang’ is a reference his punching prowess and not a deliberate slight on the creationist movement.

A late starter, the Limerick native was 26 years old when he entered the professional ranks and received the break of a lifetime as a four fight novice by replacing the injured Wayne McCullough in Prizefighter. Sky’s boxing tournament may be little more than a modern-day circus boxing booth but there is no shortage of exposure for the fighter who braves the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune and actually wins the damn thing.

Casey did just that – tearing up the form book in the process – as he steamrollered through Mark Moran, Josh Wale and Paul McElhinney. A shot at the European super bantamweight belt soon followed against fellow Irishman Paul Hyland – a replacement for Spanish knockout artist Kiko Martinez who vacated the belt after suffering an injury. Casey actually bullied the more experienced Hyland before stopping him in the fourth by TKO.

Casey is a big-punching brawler who operates most effectively in his opponents’ pocket. He may lack the technical ability of a world class operator but his high pressure style and tireless work rate goes some way to compensate. Interestingly, his boxing idol is Ricky Hatton and there are certainly stylistic comparisons. Like Hatton, he is an inside fighter that punishes opponents on the ropes and throws rib-breaking body shots. Also like Hatton, Casey is the type of fighter who leaves it all in the ring but whether his blood-and-guts approach can nullify the superior ring-craft of a fighter like Rigondeaux is another matter entirely.

Guillermo Rigondeaux (7-0, 5 Kos)
The Cubans arguably make better amateur boxers than they do cigars, and Rigondeaux is one of the finest they have ever produced. The highlight of his resume is claiming gold in two Olympics and two World Championships. While amateur records are sketchy at best, it is believed he won nearly 400 fights with only 12 losses. After a botched defection in 2007 he got it right in 2009, moving to Florida before announcing his intention to turn professional [and becoming one of many top-flight active boxers who defected from Cuba].

In his third fight, Rigondeaux outclassed the durable but shop-worn Giovanni Andrade, dictating the distance and tempo before stopping him by TKO in the 3rd. A sterner test arrived in his seventh fight against Ricardo Cordoba for the interim WBA super bantamweight belt on the undercard of Manny Pacquiao Vs Antonio Margarito. The fight proved a stinker and Rigondeaux was fortunate to scrape through with a split decision victory, however, it should be recognized that Cordoba is a former world champion and was a huge test for a novice professional.

Many boxers over the years have dismissed the benefits of a distinguished amateur pedigree upon entering the professional ranks (usually the ones who do not possess one) but it’s clear that Rigondeaux is exuding a class and assurance that belies his tender professional experience. He is already highly adept at dictating the distance of a fight, using his mobility and footwork to keep his opponent on the outside, where he can potshot at will. Any attempt to shorten the range is met with monstrous power shots - usually hooks and uppercuts. Rigondeaux has also demonstrated impressive counter-punching abilities. Only Cordoba managed to upset the script, harrying and hustling the Cuban on the inside and refusing to have the terms dictated to him. He even (sort of) dropped Rigondeaux in the 6th by forcing him to place a glove on the canvas.

Casey vs. Rigondeaux Preview & Analysis
Casey’s game plan is always to brawl on the inside and to date he has not found it hard to close the gap and unload on his opponents until they are broken down. Paul Hyland is a skilled boxer but he wasn’t tough or strong enough to hold off the Limerick man. Rigondeaux is a different beast entirely and finding a route past his barrage of jabs and power shots will be instrumental in determining whether Casey has any success in the fight.

In terms of vulnerabilities, it is clear he is not a highly technical boxer and has entered the sport too late to remedy this in any meaningful way. Furthermore, Casey has not fought a live opponent yet, nor gone past eight rounds, so it will be illuminating to discover if his stamina and punch resistance holds up to sterner examination.

Rigondeaux will not want a repeat of his showdown with Cordoba. That fight was fought on the inside too often and the Cuban will need to learn his lesson and work on keeping Casey on the outside. Key to this is a more positive approach – against Cordoba he was too defensive and reactive – so getting busy with the jab and utilizing the whole ring will keep Casey off him. But most importantly, he needs to punish the Irishman every time an attempt is made to encroach inside.

Rigondeaux does not have the technical limitations of his opponent nor will he have any trouble going 12 rounds - as he proved against Cordoba - but perhaps the location of the fight could be an issue. He may have travelled to every far-flung corner of the globe as an amateur but amateur crowds do not bubble with the particular vitriol or partisanship that is the hallmark of professional cards in Europe. How he copes with thousands of inebriated Irishmen calling for his blood could be significant.

Finally, it should be noted that both fighters are southpaws, so it may get scrappy in places with clinching and head butts, but ultimately the polarity in styles should prevent an anti-climatic stalemate.

Rigondeaux vs. Casey Prediction

I actually see this fight as the off-brand version of Hatton Vs Mayweather. Casey may have some early success as the aggressor but ultimately it will prove to be a messy, ill-disciplined aggression and he will get hit more as the fight progresses. Rigondeaux is faster, slicker, a better boxer and - for my money - a bigger puncher, so I cannot see the fight going any other way than his. I believe despite giving it his all, Casey will get caught too many times closing the gap and go out on his shield in the second half of the fight.
 
This thread confused me thinking Casey Ringodeaux was on tonight, anyway Donaire Montiel on tonight, well Sunday morning. Potential fight of the year!

Reckon Donaire will be too much for Montiel, though could very well K.O Donaire himself.
 
Frankie Gavin looked impressive against Michael Lomax, great little fighter, speaking of last night anyone see Johm McDermots KO in the 1st round, animal of a man god bless him!
 
Gavin seems a decent fighter, but last night what I saw of his style he seems to keep his fists quite low and roll his shoulder alot. I mean, if he can perfect it fair play to him, but his style is really, really open.

Also, anyone see the first fight? McDermot Vs that big dude? :lol: I couldn't believe how out of shape McDermot looked and then bang, knocked the other fella out in first round.
 
Fair amount of boxing on last night. Tyson Fury looked pretty good and knocked his man out cold with a right hand.

Witter involved in the worst fight I've seen since Haye-Harrison. Needs to retire asap.

As for Donaire, wow, what a shot! When you saw Montiel twitching around on the floor you just thought "it's over"... how the feck he managed to get up from that I'll never know. Can't fault the guy's heart. But yeah, Donaire is the real deal. The way he dealt with Darchinyan and now Montiel is unbelievable.
 
God damn wasn't FOTY but def a candidate for stoppage. Had Montiel on another planet, I pray someone here is awake so they can say they actually say it live!

I watch it on download, and saw the file size so knew it was going to end in a stoppage, but seeing as they were both K.O fighters I was still high in anticipation, however from the opening bell Donaire was picking Monteil off, so pretty much knew he was going to win from there.

However the Knockdown was still pretty amazing, but what was more amazing then that was Monteil managing to get up. When i saw his legs going, first i was going "oh no", then when he got up, that changed to "W.T.F". The guy has remarkable will.

The ref should be punished though, stupid for letting it continue.
 


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Great Knockout, I thought the fight would be much closer, I actually had a few quid on a Donaire K.O in the latter half of the fight. It will be very interesting to see who he fights next, after Vic he avoided some potential super fights and seemed confident just retaining his belts against challengers. Hopefully he looks to unify the division now, or maybe goes up another weight to challenge for a belt.
 
Davids Hayes teasing it on his twitter....give it time..
 
Kenny Egan beaten by 17 year old, former World Youth Champion, Joe Ward earlier tonight in the Irish Seniors, Egan flooring him twice on his way to a 11-6 win. Egan was going for his 11th title in a row, I've heard there will probably be box offs in some of the categories to determine who has a chance of qualifying for the Olympics as a number of favourites were knocked out early on, but as it stands theres plenty of young talent.

Michael McDonagh, another 17 year old, won the 6kg final against a very good fighter in David Oliver Joyce. Con Sheehan won his fourth title in a row at just 21. John Joe Nevin, who appeared at the last Olympics at just 18, also won his weight class along as did other top talents like Paddy Barnes. Boxing will surely be Irelands best hope of an Olympic Gold medal at London 2012, possibly more than one.

Edit: Egan-Ward, O'Neill-Quigley, Joyce-McDonagh and Sheehan-Corcoran available here on RTE player if anyone has any interest.

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Nothings confirmed yet as far as I know, but the word is that Wlad is pulling out of the Chisora fight to make the Haye fight happen.

A bit harsh on Chisora if it happens as its the second time Wlad has done this too him but this is the fight all the fans really want to see. But I think if hes realistic with himself he probably would have caught a beating against Wlad, but instead his unbeaten record is still intact while his profile in the States has been raised significantly. Really hope this happens this time.
 
Mexican sensation Saul Alvarez came in almost two pounds over the agreed weight limit Friday, but his world title clash with Britain's Matthew Hatton was still on for Saturday.

Alvarez, whose red hair and freckles account for his nickname Canelo -- "Cinnamon" in Spanish -- will fight Hatton for the vacant World Boxing Council super welterweight title on Saturday at Anaheim's Honda Center, just down the street from Disneyland.

Although the WBC last week designated the fight for its 154-pound title vacated by Filipino hero Manny Pacquiao, the camps had already agreed to a catch weight of 150 pounds.

Alvarez, 20, came in at 151.8 pounds. Given two hours to make the catch weight, he dropped less than half a pound.

Hatton, a naturally smaller fighter who weighed in under 150, agreed to stay in the fight, with Alvarez foreiting an financial penalty.

Even if that eats into any financial reward for the unbeaten Mexican, a world title would be payment enough.

"I didn't expect it to happen this quickly, but I've been preparing for this for a long time," said Alvarez, who turned professional at 15 and boasts a record 35-0 with one drawn and 26 knockouts. "I'm grateful for the opportunity, but I know I still have to earn it."

Even before the weigh-in, Alvarez was considered a big favorite against the 29-year-old Hatton, younger brother of former two-weight world champion Ricky Hatton.

The Briton is also getting his first shot at a world title, and wasn't inclined to quibble over the weight issue even though there were concerns it could scupper the bout.

Hatton brings a record of 41-4-2 with 16 knockouts to the fight. The European welterweight champion insisted that despite his underdog status he is ready to seize his chance.

"He's never fought anyone as good as me, anyone as fit and determined as me," Hatton said. "I was highly motivated for the fight in the first place, but to get to fight for the world title motivates me even more.

"I'll leave nothing in the locker room."


Would love Hatton to win this one but really can't see it.

Is this on normal sky sports?
 
I reckon Hatton is in for a sickening early knock out ala his big brother vs Pacquiao. Hatton's KO percentage shows he is a moderately powered welterweight while Alvarez is more powerful and this weight is natural for him. Hatton has been beaten by some utter dross in the past and although he has improved lately European level is about his upper limit in my opinion.

Edit: Just saw your sky sports question there as well. I don't think they are showing it live, on Box office or normal Sky Sports, but they are showing a replay of the full fight the next day at some stage. It is on American t.v as far as I know so I'm sure streams would be available if you wanted to watch it.
 
Anyone up watching Alvarez-Hatton, the last undercard fight before the main event was just on and it just displayed one of the main things wrong with boxing. It was a young American fighter, Adrien Broner, against a seasoned, former World champion in Ponce De Leone who was moving up in weight. The fight was pretty close and hard to score, however general consensus at ringside was De Leone had won by a round or two although it could be argued that Broner had won by the same margin. However Broner won a unanimous decision, this alone would be slightly suspect, however amazingly one judge scored the fight 99-91.

This fight was the penultimate fight of the night and the most anticipated apart from the main event. How can a judge of an event of this scale be so incompetent. Its ridiculous that these fools can cost fighters so much, both in terms of legacy and wealth. It's like Manchester United beating Chelsea 3-0 and then after the game the referee going "oh sorry, I actually scored the game as 2-0 to Chelsea".
 
Watched the Judah fight instead of that. Zab put on a defensive masterclass but barely threw a shot, then in the 6th or 7th (I think) stopped Mabuza out of nowhere. Was truly out on his feet. Would be a tough fight for anyone at 140 in that kind of form, he looked very impressive, albeit extremely apprehensive to let his hands go for some reason.
 
Watched the Judah fight instead of that. Zab put on a defensive masterclass but barely threw a shot, then in the 6th or 7th (I think) stopped Mabuza out of nowhere. Was truly out on his feet. Would be a tough fight for anyone at 140 in that kind of form, he looked very impressive, albeit extremely apprehensive to let his hands go for some reason.

Thats just the problem though isn't it. Whenever he steps up he generally bottles it.
 
Spirited display from Hatton, gotta give him respect for lasting the full 12 because it was looking unlikely after the first couple of rounds. The difference in ability was clear to see and he lacked the physicality to maybe turn it into a messy fight on the inside, which is the only way he was getting anything out of the fight. Can't fault his heart though.

Will be fun watching Alvarez in the future, exciting fighter with his whole career ahead of him.
 
Breaking on Sky Sports News, Wlad says Haye fight has been agreed. Wank Warren's lawyers are on red alert.