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Apparently Margarito was offered Hydroxycut in the changing room by a trainer, banned substance, doctor said it was up to him whether he took it, no one knows if he did! Roach was demanding an immediate drug test but apparently they're just lodging an official complaint and letting the fight go ahead
What the hell, they've got fecking Nelly on with some song after the national anthems. Get on the with the fight ffs
He's doing another bloody song now
He's doing another bloody song now
Wow, brilliant fight so far. Margarito taken so many hits but making a fight out of it, just had a great round
This is awesome stuff here
Domination.
Awesome stuff but borderline sickening in the end. Margarito is freakishly tough and he looked like he had Manny badly wobbled in the sixth and again in the seventh. Briefly looked like a repeat of Margarito-Cotto could be on the cards but Manny rallied and in the end it probably should have been stopped after the tenth or so. Tony could barely see, was barely able to throw punches and he was absorbing a brutal amount of punishment. Manny continues to be the closest thing to a Henry Armstrong or a Duran that our generation is likely to see (shite catchweights notwithstanding) , and Margarito's sheer guts go some way towards salvaging some sort of positive reputation post-handwrap debacle.
Just watched the Harrison fight again
What bothers me is how a couple of pro fighters can go out and not want to fight.
Haye was just has bad as Harrison in that first and second rounds.
No punches landed or thrown in the first round was a joke.
Then mid way though the 3rd Haye decided to fight , looked a bit staged to me , watching the second time round.
Dont want to say fix , but there I said it fix.
What bothers me is how a couple of pro fighters can go out and not want to fight.
Haye was just has bad as Harrison in that first and second rounds.
No punches landed or thrown in the first round was a joke.
Then mid way though the 3rd Haye decided to fight , looked a bit staged to me , watching the second time round.
Dont want to say fix , but there I said it fix.
Towards the end it almost looked like the cut was bigger than the eye. For all the stick Margarito gets, the guy is still tough as nails so credit to him for sticking with it and even giving some back.
tbh, Haye was only 'bad' because he knew when he wanted to finish it. Cashing in a couple of bets for his family and friends, nice of him really. So yeah as close to a fix as you can get considering the gap in class between the two.
Garbage as expected though, but I bet Haye gets more from that fight that he will from any fight with the Klits, just because people just lapped it up.
yeah maybe your right , just think that Harrison has done people out of a fight again.
He has no place in a boxing ring , rank bad image for the sport , when if does not need it.
I guess you'd get more action if they didn't have fight in those stupid house sized shorts!
I was pleased to see Audrey on his back! Useless.
I was pleased to see Audrey on his back! Useless.
Watching it at the mo. A great fight so far. Manny'll retire as an all time great....I'd say he's the best fighter I've seen.
Pussy Boy Floyd needs to step up to the plate now, that was a masterclass by Manny last night and he's in a position where he doesn't really have anything left to prove and that makes Gayweather more likely to want to redeem his reputation.
So glad I missed Fraudley-Haye.. by all accounts a disaster of a fight and I didn't expect anything great from that match-up in the first place, what Manny-Margharito proved yesterday was a great boxing match fought in the right spirit can be more than a match for UFC.
So glad I missed Fraudley-Haye.. by all accounts a disaster of a fight and I didn't expect anything great from that match-up in the first place, what Manny-Margharito proved yesterday was a great boxing match fought in the right spirit can be more than a match for UFC.
Only idiots bought into the Haye-Harrison fight.
Julian Jackson Vs Bomber Graham. What a punch. What a KO.
He was out well before he hit the deck. From what I can recall Jackson was a very good fighter, Bomber wasn't bad either to be fair...but he never had it in him to be a champ. As for Jackson, I think McClellan knocked him out to win the WBA(?) crown (G McClellan - I still to this day don't know how Benn managed to get through that fight let alone win...).
He was out well before he hit the deck. From what I can recall Jackson was a very good fighter, Bomber wasn't bad either to be fair...but he never had it in him to be a champ. As for Jackson, I think McClellan knocked him out to win the WBA(?) crown (G McClellan - I still to this day don't know how Benn managed to get through that fight let alone win...).
Very entertaining action last night.
I wonder how Margarito looks today. He's taken some severe punishment in the past but that was savage. Credit to the guy... he's one tough fecker and made it about as competitive as he could have done. Even briefly threatened to drag Pacquiao into the trenches in the 6th or 7th.
If Pacquiao doesn't fight Mayweather next I don't know who there is left for him to fight. Martinez and Williams are surely too big for him.
I wonder how Margarito looks today. He's taken some severe punishment in the past but that was savage. Credit to the guy... he's one tough fecker and made it about as competitive as he could have done. Even briefly threatened to drag Pacquiao into the trenches in the 6th or 7th.
If Pacquiao doesn't fight Mayweather next I don't know who there is left for him to fight. Martinez and Williams are surely too big for him.
Especially when there was perfectly good free streams online.
How is he a pussy just trying to make sure the fight is fought fairly? This Manny guy has moved up so quickly and even got faster with each ascension.
What really is his reservation for not wanting to partake in olympic-style drug testing?
If you have nothing to hide, this should be a minor issue for you.
That Manny fight was belting. The class of the man at the end too, he clearly eased off after the point he looked to the ref to see if the fight shouldn't be stopped, he knew Margarito could have been seriously hurt because he was too brave for his own good. An odd thing to say about someone who's had plaster in their gloves!
Pacquiao accepted his terms for a November 13th fight, didn't he? At that point Mayweather was nowhere to be found so they made the deal with Margarito.
Harrison was an absolute disgrace last night- he should look back on this fight with shame. His one shot at glory and he didn't even put up a little bit of a fight and was stopped in Hayes first attack.
Should not box again.
Should not box again.
Don't think he has ever agreed, there was once a story i remember saying he had but was quickly denied, actually in the interview after last nights fight it didn't strike me that he was very keen on the fight happening.
I mean to the 14 day compromise. Not to the Olympic style. I wasn't very clear.
Mayweather has been ducking serious opponents for ages now so it comes as no surprise to regular boxing fans he wont fight Pacquiao, this is why i still have reservations as to him being up alongside the all time greats, sure hes a highly skilled fighter and by far the best defensive fighter arguably there's ever been, but he picks his fights and dodges major opposition and has done for years, Mayweather is scared of Pacquiao and continues to move the goalposts every time theres a chance of an agreement for this fight to take place, and Pacquiao's people know it hence why Mayweather is/was demanding all these tests etc, anything to delay/postpone/ignore any potential fight that he knows he wont win.
Love watching Pacquiao fight, hes just brilliant entertainment and a true gent of the sport to, was amazed how often he landed against Margarito consistently, the speed of his punches even for such a well drilled fighter like Margarito was great to watch, and all this against a much bigger man, thats another difference between Manny and Floyd, Pacquiao is willing to fight bigger men than him and he wins with ease, when was the last time Mayweather fought a bigger man??
Im glad the mexican took a beating no time for cheats of the sport, fighting with a loaded glove is cowardly thank god mosley wasn't seriously hurt in that fight, credit for his guts mind you, its true Mexican fighters are the toughest of the tough, Barrera/Morales/Margarito all warriors in the ring.
Pacquiao v Mayweather is the one everyone wants, everyone except Mayweather, why? because he knows if he goes anywhere near Pacquiao his unbeaten record and reputation will take a beating and he doesn't want anyone like that near him, he fights pussys in the main.
Love watching Pacquiao fight, hes just brilliant entertainment and a true gent of the sport to, was amazed how often he landed against Margarito consistently, the speed of his punches even for such a well drilled fighter like Margarito was great to watch, and all this against a much bigger man, thats another difference between Manny and Floyd, Pacquiao is willing to fight bigger men than him and he wins with ease, when was the last time Mayweather fought a bigger man??
Im glad the mexican took a beating no time for cheats of the sport, fighting with a loaded glove is cowardly thank god mosley wasn't seriously hurt in that fight, credit for his guts mind you, its true Mexican fighters are the toughest of the tough, Barrera/Morales/Margarito all warriors in the ring.
Pacquiao v Mayweather is the one everyone wants, everyone except Mayweather, why? because he knows if he goes anywhere near Pacquiao his unbeaten record and reputation will take a beating and he doesn't want anyone like that near him, he fights pussys in the main.
They have both been ducking each other imo Manny didnt want to fight Mayweather first time around with the drug test now Floyd doesnt want to fight Manny.
This is just incredibly retarded on various levels. Outstanding. Do you post at Boxing Scene?
Sorry I'm no boxing expert but what utter tosh. It was Manny who dodged at first. Question everyone still has is why not go for the drug test? The request from Mayweather's camp seemed to be fueled by insider knowledge.I think if Mayweather was scared of fighting Mayweather he would have just stayed retired, he must of known everyone would demand the fight and he didn't exactly need the money.
Not seen anything from Mayweather to suggest he could even live with Manni, to be honest
I think Pacquaio's on a different level. Just watched his fight with Margarito...he was getting hit with huge shots and then literally clapping at them with joy and landing even bigger ones in retaliation...He's some kind of super human karate boxing nutjob
I think Pacquaio's on a different level. Just watched his fight with Margarito...he was getting hit with huge shots and then literally clapping at them with joy and landing even bigger ones in retaliation...He's some kind of super human karate boxing nutjob
Mayweather would have trouble knocking him out but I think you are seriously underestimating his defence and boxing skills. For all the talking Mayweather does there is no denying he is supremely talanted and could be the one to beat Manny.
Its weird cos I think Manny is the only one capable of defeating Money, but Money is the only one that can deal with and counter Pacmans speed.
It will be a huge huge travesty if this fight doesnt happen (or if it happens when it becomes a farce)
So Vlitali has told the BBC that he wants to fight Haye before his brother, he'd go halves on worldwide revenue and be willing for it be held at Madison Square Garden.
Did he comment on whether or not he was prepared to drop the "if you beat me, then you have to fight my brother" stipulation gayness?
The only direct mention of his brother in the interview was when he said they had an agreement on which one of them would fight Haye first. Although i suppose that could mean that such a stipulation is implicit. But then our Dave claims he wishes to beat them both anyway so...
What's gay about that? It's what Haye wants to do anyway
As for Mayweather, I think it's pretty bloody obvious he's been fight dodging with Manny. I don't think the fight will happen, and I think it's because deep down Mayweather wants his record and knows there's a bloody good chance it goes out of the window if he agrees
As for Mayweather, I think it's pretty bloody obvious he's been fight dodging with Manny. I don't think the fight will happen, and I think it's because deep down Mayweather wants his record and knows there's a bloody good chance it goes out of the window if he agrees