I am saying that a corrupt referee would have gone for something like 7-5 which would not have generated any debate cause it was a really close match. 10-2 looks just stupid, not even corrupt.
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Wtf was that's judge doing?! Should be investigated for being paid off. Disgraceful.
I had GGG just edging the fight. I get people thinking Canelo won but never at a 118-110 distance. fecking joke!
I had GGG just edging the fight. I get people thinking Canelo won but never at a 118-110 distance. fecking joke!
Some called this judge dodgy prior to the fight like the guy above, and now you see why. The 118-110 was very corrupt and even if you were actively rooting for Canelo you cannot justify that score. That being said I'm not against the draw in itself, even if I had GGG just edging it.
Poor GGG. 118-110 is corruption pure and simple.
Just rewatched it and still think Alvarez looks the stronger, cleaner boxer with GGG being clearly the busier. I think some might be getting carried away with GGG's pluckier looking work than Canelo's careful approach. Judge it how you like but I don't think GGG clearly won at all. Why not do it again.
So who is everybody favouring in the rematch?
Canelo
Triple G won this one in my eyes, but Canelo if it goes again.
If they went again I could actually see a similar fight and result, there's very little to separate them
The promoters would take another draw and a part 3 right now I imagine
The promoters would take another draw and a part 3 right now I imagine
GGG. He was the slightly better boxer yesterday, and I don't think there would be too much difference in 5th of May. They are similar level though and so it will be a very close fight, with any of them being able to edge it.
The commentators were saying before the fight that this one has already been tipped to be a trilogy.
I think you could toss a coin. I expect it would go to another points decision and then who knows.
Disagree. Canelo was the better boxer, his shot selection and defence was much better, he just didn't work as hard as GGG. Rematch could go either way.
GGG in a rematch,like will be even more one-sided, he was apprehensive in the first few as he wasn't sure about his power. Next match he will go for him.
Had it at 7-5 GGG at worst. Where the hell that 118-110 came from I have no idea. Even if she was watching an entirely different fight she'd still be doing well to catch on that one-sided.
I do love that a decision that had nearly the entire boxing world in outrage immediately drew its defenders on the caf though.
I do love that a decision that had nearly the entire boxing world in outrage immediately drew its defenders on the caf though.
Because he wasn't capable of reaching the same levels of work ethic as GGG. I think GGG was too apprehensive at the beginning of the fight, now he's tested the waters I can't see him making the same mistakes in a rematch. Expect more body punches too.
Yeah same way I see it. I tried but I couldn't even make a prediction going into the first fight, I truly thought it was a 50/50 fight and I feel the same way about the rematch.
He never did even towards the end of this fight, what makes you think he'll fight much different in the rematch? Canelo clearly can cope with him, and GGG clearly respects Canelo's power. Next fight i expect to be similar, with Canelo will try to be a bit more active. Think he will edge it. Goes to a decision again though, i really don't think either guy is capable of stopping the other right now. So unless one of them does something wrong during training or age catches up to GGG, it will be more of the same
I didn't say he was, I simply pointed out he was the better boxer. He punched cleaner, landed more power punches and did a better job defensively. That's no slight on GGG it's just how it is.
The decision itself doesn't have the world in outrage, just that one card. They tripped over their d*cks to come to the right decisionI do love that a decision that had nearly the entire boxing world in outrage immediately drew its defenders on the caf though.
Golovkin fans already preparing excuses for the rematch.
Oke, so I didn't watch the game. But was Byrd's scorecard really that bad?
It was, you can't make a case for Canelo having won 10 of the 12 rounds though I can make a case for a narrow win for him. It was a close fight, never a landslide.
I would say about 90% of the reaction I've seen had GGG winning, with the rest entertaining a draw. Even without that ridiculous scorecard it would have been a controversial decision. Byrd just made it a farce.
So, I'm trying to understand this objectively. Can you see any reason for her scorecard? Like, if you reached a bit, can you understand her judging? Or was it just blatantly bad?
Yes, even Canelo's mum couldn't argue he won the middle part of the fight. But some commentary has gone too far the other way, suggesting the judging as a whole was robbery. The other two judges scoring was a reasonable reflection of the fight.
Blatant corruption/ineptitude
That's sad to hear. What can boxing do about this?
Nothing since they don't want to do anything about it. Corrupt/inept judges are good for the promoters
I would be being kind to her if I suggested that stylistically she heavily favors Canelo's better technical boxing skill above GGG's raw power, even then I just can't see how she calls it that wide as GGG had clear success in some rounds.
I believe corruption could be a partial factor but not of the sort where money is exchanged and more the sort where she is very aware that favoring a golden boy fighter has its career advantages, even then I have to say she could have at least made it look close.
I just thoroughly believe that its down more to a combination of a certain level of incompetence and a heavy bias toward one fighting style as opposed to another, if you asked her to name her personal favorite fighters I think that would tell its own story as I'd expect to see very few brawlers/punchers on her list and more technically gifted fighters.
Natural bias over fighting styles is the biggest factor I can put it down to, I honestly don't believe that somebody out to do a corrupt job would call it that wide, I think that is genuinely how she saw it which speaks to her incompetence.
Rewatched. Still a farce.
Some of the best punches landed in the fight
She gave GGG 2 rounds...2 fecking rounds.
Argue for a draw and I might be swayed, but Canelo won 10 rounds in that fight?
Farcical, she needs to be dealt with the way the cartels in Colombia dealt with disappointment.
Argue for a draw and I might be swayed, but Canelo won 10 rounds in that fight?
Farcical, she needs to be dealt with the way the cartels in Colombia dealt with disappointment.
Alverez wasn't landing clean shots since if he was, it would've done serious damage to Golovkin, which was clearly not the case. Canelo was obviously the more powerful puncher and deserves credit for that, but you can't possibly expect him to have drawn or won this fight when he was significantly out punched in term volume and jab, and the fact that Golovkin was clearly the aggressor for at least 80% of the fight.
Golovkin has a brick head man, Canelo landed multiple times flush. The punch at 0:40 in the above video is almost a round-winning punch in isolation, it's a huge clean overhand right.
Any normal judge would've given that to GGG. The fact that one had it a draw (not a chance) and another had it 10-2 Canelo when the entire world had it right, just shows what shambles boxing is in.
What a farce. Hopefully the FBI are monitoring Adalaide Byrd's bank accounts 
Corrupt judge who should be banned.
Corrupt judge who should be banned.
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Why do the FEW Canelo fans claim people don't know "how to score" - you are literally saying thousands who know the game and have been involved for years - experts, boxers and analysts - don't know how to score.
I'm not seeing any scorecards out there for Canelo.....so maybe you few and Bird need to create a new organisation, because lord knows, boxing needs another with farcical decision that go against what everyone else is seeing.
I'm not seeing any scorecards out there for Canelo.....so maybe you few and Bird need to create a new organisation, because lord knows, boxing needs another with farcical decision that go against what everyone else is seeing.