feck off adelaide
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feck off adelaide
not the specialized media at least
http://mmadecisions.com/decision/8418/Gennady-Golovkin-vs-Saúl-Álvarez
Anyone want to wager they rematch on cinco de mayo?
Precisely and that how i saw it and it looks like the judges agree. The ability to take a punch is admirable but the fact that you are taking those punches still means you are being scored against. GGG has a habit of blocking punches with his face rather than his gloves which isn't gonna do you many favors in boxing in the long run.
Clearly wary of the counter uppercut but now he's felt his power, he'll go more to the body in the rematch
Canelo ran the show for 2 rounds.....GGG adjusted, and forced Canelo into an even more defensive mode that just made him lose rounds, he legit gave away 3-4 rounds. How you score the other 6 is dependent on what you saw I guess, but I just struggle to see how anyone can give 6 mostly 50/50 rounds to the same boxer.
GGG won this more than he won the fight against Jacobs at least and Jacobs didn't land bombs on him from what I can recall.
Canelo knew he lost, his camp knew he lost otherwise wouldn't tell him to go out there in the 12th like that, and DLH knew he lost because he paid Bird off at some point in the 12th.
I could handle a draw though - if one of the scorecards wasn't so fabricated to force the draw.
GGG won this more than he won the fight against Jacobs at least and Jacobs didn't land bombs on him from what I can recall.
Canelo knew he lost, his camp knew he lost otherwise wouldn't tell him to go out there in the 12th like that, and DLH knew he lost because he paid Bird off at some point in the 12th.
I could handle a draw though - if one of the scorecards wasn't so fabricated to force the draw.
I think Canelo's strategy should be to wait til GGG gets closer to 40, which would guarantee success.
Except GGG threw more and landed more.
He's clearly wumming
Golovkin outlanded Canelo, yes. But how many truly great scoring punches did Golovkin actually land on Canelo - most were slipped or partially blocked by his gloves. Canelo landed some extremely clean blows on Golovkin consistently through the bout, except for a small period during the middle rounds.
Sounds like it.
He did for the simple fact he has a better defence and worked the body.
I had no idea that in order to score points you had to land 'truly great' punches. GGG landed plenty of clean shots. He cut the ring off and backed Alvarez up against the ropes consistently.
Or just pay more than one judge next time.
This....feck De La Hoya
Landing clean shots is pretty much the number one criteria when scoring a fight, and Canelo definitely had the edge there.
What I do give Golovkin tons of credit for is outworking the younger fighter.
All I know is after the 9th round Canelo needed a knockout and he didn't get it. GGG by 2 clear rounds, I was rooting for Canelo btw.
When I heard 118-110 I was sure it was for GGG as the other way literally made zero sense, either way it was an absurd decsion.
When I heard 118-110 I was sure it was for GGG as the other way literally made zero sense, either way it was an absurd decsion.
'Ring generalship' now equates to being punched more?
Landing at a higher PCT especially with power punches is key. Nobody is saying Canelo didn't get caught, but he manged those periods against GGG and controlled the fight better with the smarter more educated work coming from him.
*Curtsy*
Not quite. But no point in arguing....you're right despite being wrong. As proved above, you are very very very much in the minority.
Absolutely. The better shots were landed by Canelo, that cannot be argued surely.
No, he didn't. If you listened to the HBO commentary, though, I could see why you might think that. It was ridiculous.
Not at a higher PCT and not with power punches. What constitutes a scoring punch is key to this argument.
He lost 8 rounds and was gifted a draw. GGG threw more, landed more and was the aggressor throughout.
Indeed. And GGG landed more scoring punches than Alvarez.
I need to see numbers breakdown for each round anyone came across it yet?
Really? Lampley and Lederman were both biased towards Golovkin, while Max and Roy were leaning towards Canelo. So on the whole, was fairly balanced.
People rely way too much on the punch stats IMO
Kellerman said GGG won the fight after.
GGG
He controlled the fight. Sounds like something LvG apologists would say. Canelo fecking far from controlled anything. It's so obvious, I think anyone that says otherwise is genuinely just wumming to feck with peoples brain at this late hour.
He controlled the fight. Sounds like something LvG apologists would say. Canelo fecking far from controlled anything. It's so obvious, I think anyone that says otherwise is genuinely just wumming to feck with peoples brain at this late hour.
Pretty much everyone had GGG winning before anyone knew the punch stats.... 
Kellerman was over the top ridiculous in his Alvarez love. Lederman scored the fight like 90% of people.
He did, but during the fight, he said Golovkin would have given away the first 3 rounds in the eyes of many and that Canelo turned the screw in the last 3.
Or maybe 90% of people scored the bout like Lederman...
There's no plausible way Canelo won the fight under any circumstances. GGG won it 7 rounds to 5 at worst, probably closer to 8-4
Canelo won the first two. It was hard to give him much after that, but you could find a round or two around 9-12 to throw his way.
I'm struggling to give him 5.
I'm struggling to give him 5.
Byrd had Canelo winning while she was eating her lunch.Pretty much everyone had GGG winning before anyone knew the punch stats....
Certainly not 10. 
GGG was humble after the fight...better man than I....I wouldnt of been able to hold my tongue....Canelo on the other hand being a cnut saying he won 7 or 8 rounds.