Wlad was oddly too patient after he knocked AJ down imo. He had the chance to launch a flurry of punches to take advantage of AJ's wooziness, but instead decided to play the long game, and wound up paying the ultimate price.
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Wlad was oddly too patient after he knocked AJ down imo. He had the chance to launch a flurry of punches to take advantage of AJ's wooziness, but instead decided to play the long game, and wound up paying the ultimate price.
Bellew is really irritating me though. He mentions his so called Haye "win" as much as Froch goes on about his fight with George Groves at Wembley in front of 80k people. 
Bellew is really irritating me though. He mentions his so called Haye "win" as much as Froch goes on about his fight with George Groves at Wembley in front of 80k people.
My god, hope this never happens.
Definitely. I don't know if he was gassed himself, it's the only explanation because AJ was literally gone at that point. His movement was non-existent and he was so wobbly on his feet. I think that will be the moment Wlad will look back on when he watches the fight and realises what a missed opportunity that was.
I wonder If Wilder did face Joshua would it be in England again or would the American audience embrace it enough to have it over in the states?
Be interesting to see the Heavyweight division being centre stage again in America.
Be interesting to see the Heavyweight division being centre stage again in America.
Almost certainly in the States for maximum PPV money.
But would the interest in the American people be as big as it would be If it was in England? I just don't sense that it would attract the same numbers but for the division now it has to be with Fury v Joshua or Wilder v Joshua .
After all said is done, it's great to see Boxing having a revival again as I felt it's been slowly dying in the last couple of years but it's getting back to it's best now with great fight match-ups again
Froch sounds like a fan when he keeps mentioning that.Bellew is really irritating me though. He mentions his so called Haye "win" as much as Froch goes on about his fight with George Groves at Wembley in front of 80k people.
Amazing fight and unbelievable showing from both guys, especially Wlad.
Said it before and I'll say it again though, Fury is far and away the best HW in the world and no one is close to him.
Said it before and I'll say it again though, Fury is far and away the best HW in the world and no one is close to him.
My god, hope this never happens.
As much as Bellew irritates me I'd find it hilarious if he fought Wilder and somehow won
Wilder is an average boxer.My god, hope this never happens.
Would love to see Wilder spark him out at Goodison after a ring walk with Lukaku.
He really has to get himself in shape and prove this....I'm a big fan of Fury and I think he would beat Joshua but he needs to get his head right. The only thing I will say is I think this is a fight that would really motivate him to come back to boxing again.
But would the interest in the American people be as big as it would be If it was in England? I just don't sense that it would attract the same numbers but for the division now it has to be with Fury v Joshua or Wilder v Joshua .
After all said is done, it's great to see Boxing having a revival again as I felt it's been slowly dying in the last couple of years but it's getting back to it's best now with great fight match-ups again
I think this fight would. It would literally be the biggest fight in years at a time when Boxing has been on the wane and lacking proper rivalries and personalities, especially at a time when MMA and the like have been on the rise. This would be Boxing's way of saying "I'm back".
As much as Bellew irritates me I'd find it hilarious if he fought Wilder and somehow won
I just hope Bellew calls it a career. He's proved his point against one leg Haye, now move on and don't disrupt the HW ecosystem.
True. I don't think he proved much against Haye tbh apart from he can take a punch. Definitely, I'm not a fan of boxers recklessly sliding up and down weight classes for the odd fight just because it's a huge opportunity to fight one of the major players.
Fury would need a warm-up fight before Joshua.
Haye would be nice.
For sure. And then you see professional footballers who suddenly look like pub players at 31.
My god, hope this never happens.
To be honest Bellew would be the biggest fight of Wilders career and I wouldn't put it pass Bellew to spark Wilder. Now I kinda want to see it. If the Wilder vs Parker fight doesn't come about the biggest fight other than AJ,Klitch, Parker is Bellew.
Does anyone really care about Tyson Fury he caught Klitchko on an off night.
On Wladamir though showed so much intelligence, and rolling with AJ;s punches. Really showed his experience. Was a great fight.
Agreed. A 41 year old man shouldn't be able to take a world class champion like AJ that deep into a fight.
AJ wasn't a world class champion until tonight. He fought bums, won a vacated title, and took on a major challenge tonight that many thought (myself included) could've been too much if Wlad was 100% commited.
However, that performance elevates him. Getting past the knockdown, surviving when need be, and finishing it deep into the fight - A place where he'd never been before... A world class performance versus a high class opponent.
Tyson made Wlad uncomfortable, and a rematch would've ended up the same way, in my opinion.
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High risk low reward though.
Called it a while ago.
Yes, AJ proved himself tonight. He was always on an upward learning curve, the question was if was enough to beat an opponent of Wlad's stature. AJ surprised me, coming back the way he did, and deserves massive respect for his fighting spirit and killer instinct. He's only going to get better as he's still not the finished article.
I never, ever thought I'd agree with that sentence but indeed. I still can't believe how he ate that uppercut.
Superb fight. That was the best Klitschko we've seen in years, and Joshua answered many questions about his stamina, chin and heart tonight. As cautious as he is, Wladimar is a big puncher and I'm massively impressed that Joshua recovered from that knockdown. He looked fecked after that for a few rounds. Incredible to see him rally with the body punching and eventual KO.
Fury beat Wlad not because he was passed it but because Fury's style made Wlad's jab impotent. Being totally unorthodox, and an incredibly fleet of foot fighter for his size, Fury outclassed Klitschko by outsmarting him and outmanoevering him with lateral movement. Fury would most likely win a rematch.
AJ was never going to win the same way as he is very much an 'up and down' fighter and relies much more on pure power and aggression. It would be unwise to rule out Fury against AJ which would be an incredibly intriguing match up. Styles make fights as they say.
I'd add that Fury has excellent head movement and handspeed too. The best in quite some time I'd state. Particularly weird he's 6 ft 9, can fight as a southpaw as well and yet has no knock out power. And is a fatty. I guess training since he was 5 years old helps though.
Brilliant brilliant fight. Wasn't the only one who thought aj was gone.
Yeah, he is a natural. With the right focus and application, he is as formidable as anyone in the HW division. He is his own worst enemy and atm he is defeating himself. Peter Fury is a cracking trainer too.
Absolutely bonkers AJ was up on points, I doubt even he decides to go for it in the 11 if he knew that shambles, thank feck he didn't. Though then again, he's about the fans, and when he's got his second wind, he wants the KO, so maybe he didn't care anyway....whereas Wlad started to point it up instead of going for the KO possibly, though he won the 3-4 rounds between his knockdown and knockout very easily.
A genuinely proper HW fight that got the nation buzzing though, and lived up to it. Fair fecks to the pair of them. Eddie Hearn isn't one to pussyfoot about making fights, so I'm sure all the noises on Fury will happens, ALL the cards are in AJ/Hearns hands on that one, so Fury can't really dance away from like Amir does with Kell. Let's get a proper UK smashfest on this time next time providing Fury gets through a couple of tune up fights.
A genuinely proper HW fight that got the nation buzzing though, and lived up to it. Fair fecks to the pair of them. Eddie Hearn isn't one to pussyfoot about making fights, so I'm sure all the noises on Fury will happens, ALL the cards are in AJ/Hearns hands on that one, so Fury can't really dance away from like Amir does with Kell. Let's get a proper UK smashfest on this time next time providing Fury gets through a couple of tune up fights.
Exactly. And he was one round away from possibly winning on points. Against a 27 year old 18-0 who never went beyond the seventh round.
Wlad is a fecking legend.
His shape is great, but it kinda saddened me a bit to see him like that. Watch his shape 3-4 years ago when he bettered Povetkin and you'll see what that time frame does to your body at that age.
What? He's body is barely any different, he's been in phenomenal shape for years, he's like Floyd in that he's ALWAYS in shape, I'm not really seeing what you are seeing, and more to the point, getting "saddened" by.
There are only a few months that separate Joshua in Fury in age. People seem to overlook this.
That's the least likely outcome IMO. Wilder has huge power but he's an awful boxer.
Never liked Klitschko brothers as boxers, just not into that style of boxing, I guess. A win by United today will make it a lovely weekend sports-wise.
Really good fight from both boxers I enjoyed that. A bit worried about Joshua' stamina though he was completely gassed after his knockdown in the 5th, a younger Klitchko would have finished him with ease at that point. He won't get 3 rounds to recover against a younger fighter, he really needs to work on that.