Crolla getting operated on. Linares too good.
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At a push the first but could've gone either way. Hasn't gotten near since
Crolla down in the 7th
Linares isn't bothered about Crolla's power at all so he's just doing what he wants.
I think Linares could've finished it in that final minute then but probably knows he doesn't need to risk anything looking for it being so far ahead and rounds to go
Probably should finish the fight before they start giving him booze.
Crowd lifted Crolla back into it there. He shows incredible spirit despite being clearly outclassed here.
Crolla has about as much power as Amir Khans jaw, when drunk.
Crolla's round.
There's a round.
Outclassed, but heart shines through.
Easy work for Linares.
Crolla is poor. He had nothing.
Anybody know if this Tomi Tatham fight is on sky?
Apparently he is from my home town so just curious if he's any good
Apparently he is from my home town so just curious if he's any good
A lot of heart shown by Crolla, but Linares was a class apart. Great sportsmanship from both fighters in the end as well.
Eddie Hearn looked a defeated man as well towards the end, looking enviously towards Oscar de la Hoya.
Eddie Hearn looked a defeated man as well towards the end, looking enviously towards Oscar de la Hoya.
You from settle?
Lancaster. He's from Bentham apparently which is 5minutes away
And yes, Unfortunately Tyson Fury lives here to
Crolla needed to box perfectly for 12 rounds to stand a chance and unfortunately it didn't come off for him. Crolla doesn't have enough power to stop Linares from letting his hands go and to make him have something to think about when coming forward with his fast hands. Was a decent fight from a neutral prospective though and overall a decent night of boxing.
Lancaster. He's from Bentham apparently which is 5minutes away
And yes, Unfortunately Tyson Fury lives here to
It's my one of my old mates brothers that's why I was asking lol.
Shame for Crolla he's a good boxer just not in the same league as Linares as thought before this fight. If anything this one was more 1 sided than the last (and that was an easy night for Linares as it was!)
I think it would be interesting to see Crolla without Gallagher, whilst he's not the best fighter I think a lot of fighters with Joe tend to be one dimensional and not switch their game plan. I think he'd of lost the fight either way it's more of an observation moving forward.
I think it would be interesting to see Crolla without Gallagher, whilst he's not the best fighter I think a lot of fighters with Joe tend to be one dimensional and not switch their game plan. I think he'd of lost the fight either way it's more of an observation moving forward.
I think Crolla has squeezed as much out of his ability as he can. He just isn't talented enough for the elite level IMO. That isn't a criticism because I think he has had a great career and it is much better seeing a fighter going above and beyond than failing or underachieving.
Yeah I don't disagree with that. He isn't in the same league as Linares but it just seemd a bit one dimensional.
I think Bellew said it after (who wagain was good at the punditry) whilst Linares was better the tactics used just benefitted him so much.
It's not just Crolla who the criticism of Gallagher is aimed at. The likes of Quigg were the same in the Frampton fight and Marcus Morrison lost this weekend to. He seems a decent enough coach but I don't think he's the level he thinks he is and fighters would have a better time with better coaches.
It's always been a criticism of Gallagher that his fighters are fairly static and upright. If you look at the likes of Crolla and, in the past, John Murray, they are stiff with zero head movement and heavy feet. Quigg is a bit more lithe but he looked massively short of ideas against Frampton.
Crolla is a good kid but he's not World Class.
Crolla is a good kid but he's not World Class.
Didn't watch the fight but find it mad Crolla is considering moving up a weight? If he doesn't have the power at this weight?
Would have been nice for him to fight Flanagan but Flanagan holds all the cards now being champ.
Really does seem the only elite level fighter Hearn has is Joshua which makes his claims about only wanting elite fighters ludicrous as they are few and far between.
Would have been nice for him to fight Flanagan but Flanagan holds all the cards now being champ.
Really does seem the only elite level fighter Hearn has is Joshua which makes his claims about only wanting elite fighters ludicrous as they are few and far between.
I'd say Kell Brook is elite level.
Kudos to Quigg for moving to train with Roach at the Wild Card gym. There is hope for him yet.
In fairness to Hearn he has the biggest names in British boxing. Brook, Joshua, DeGale, Callum Smith are all good names and legitimate fighters. His "support" acts of Yafai, Whyte Luke Campbell aren't bad either. Maybe not "elite" but he will always talk up his fighters as he's a promoter.
I don't know how many elite level boxers there are in boxing at the moment? Presumably it would mean the whole package including being a legitimate PPV Draw as well. Who can really say that? Probably really only Joshua, Canelo and Mayweather when he comes back.
Absolutely - i'm looking forward to seeing him out again.
He's fighting at Wembley in a month it's been announced so you won't have long to wait!
What are peoples thoughts on Joshua-Klitschko as it gets nearer?
Personally i think Wlad has been written of prematurely off the back of his Fury performance and i think Joshua has flaws. Klitschko is a master of shutting down a fight albeit it's not always much of a spectacle and i've not always been impressed when AJ has to press a fight. He fell short with a lot of his punches against Brezeale and Klitschko will not be on the offensive IMO.
Personally i think Wlad has been written of prematurely off the back of his Fury performance and i think Joshua has flaws. Klitschko is a master of shutting down a fight albeit it's not always much of a spectacle and i've not always been impressed when AJ has to press a fight. He fell short with a lot of his punches against Brezeale and Klitschko will not be on the offensive IMO.
It's a weird fight really.
I don't think Hearn would put him in against Wlad unless he and Joshua's coaching team strongly thought that he had declined. The Fury fight he obviously lost but he wasn't brilliant vs. Jennings before then either and was showing his age slightly. Equally Joshua has fought no one near the level of Wlad so it's a huge test.
If I had to guess I think Joshua will win purely cos of what I said above. If Wlad wins it'll be a dull affair and Hearn will spin it to "One of them wanted to box the other wanted to hug" or something like that and then rebuild from there. The worst thing that could happen to him is if Wlad schools him for ages and then stops the fight. Anything else can be spun from a PR point of view to make it less damaging for his reputation.
Call me stupid, but I actually that Wlad will win. Joshua has never faced anyone who is anywhere near Wlad's level (even a past it Wlad).
I don't think you're stupid. Wlad's stance means the target (head) for Joshua is further away than any opponent he will ever face. He was falling short quite often against a rangy opponent in Breazeale previously, nevermind against Klitschko. Not to mention that WK can floor any man and potentially end a fight with either fist and at any distance (hooks or straight shots). Then factor in WK's likely withdrawn tactics to encourage the fight into the later stages and it's a recipe for clear danger to Joshua unless he lands significant damage. He may be an Olympic champion but in a sparring contest, you'd still back Klitschko's experience 9/10.
With all that said, there's many aspects in Joshua's favour too; speed, power, activity, form etc. It's a real pick 'em fight between a young bull and a cagey old lion.
It's hardly stupid, it's a 50-50 fight really when all facts are considered. The odds for the fight would reflect that if there wasn't so much money going on AJ (mostly from the "casuals" who don't really watch boxing).
Though it's something that maybe makes the elitists dislike him more, but Eddie Hearn has made the casuals more than the casual. Boxings pretty massive in the UK right now. He's worked that market tremendously, with the help of a lot of talent of course, it's not just him.
Joshua is also favoured stateside last I know of, so the odds don't reflect British casuals dropping on him, they reflect he's younger, and well Wlad is coming off a loss where he looked brutally old and rusty....and it's like 18 months later. I think a lot are punting on Wlad just as much.
Joshua is also favoured stateside last I know of, so the odds don't reflect British casuals dropping on him, they reflect he's younger, and well Wlad is coming off a loss where he looked brutally old and rusty....and it's like 18 months later. I think a lot are punting on Wlad just as much.
Yeah I agree. I think he's a bit of a tit but he has done a lot for British boxing. Look at stuff like the Next Gen series he's doing now for the future as well. He's put on some shocking mismatches in his time but he;s given some huge events (his cards have sold out Wembley twice.)
Again agree on the second point. I don't think it's just cos of people being "casual fans" or whatever. Joshua is a world champion and an active fighter who knocks people out easy. Wlad is an old fighter with a long lay off, injury problems and hasn't looked great in a good few years. Equally I know experience is a factor but take away Fury who Wlad obviously lost to is there any of his recent fights people wouldn't back Joshua to knock them out or at least beat them? There isn't many.
possible Froch return to fight Kessler? Can see him being tempted by a big pay-day
Kessler would destroy him at this point would he not? Why do it for a pay day. I'm sure Froch is quite comfortable.
He's been retired longer than Froch hasn't he? TBH the reason I think he'd be tempted (as well as the money) is he'd probably have a decent chance.
edit: and these comments!
I honestly had brain fart I thought Kessler was still going and Froch had retired. Well I know Froch has.
Anyway what did you make of GGG Jackobs fight?