He deserves to win tonight, but the personal beliefs are anachronistic.
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After the two fights Haye cancelled against Fury, and the following vitriol spouted by Fury, I'm not sure he'd give Haye a shot unless he was forced to by the Boxing association, or there were absolutely shedloads of money thrown at him.
A damming inditement on what's become a joke of a division.
On the contrary. It was a quite brilliant performance. Did you actually watch the fight?
Fury tries to move like Roy Jones in there but he can't even bob and weave properly. If I did that at my boxing club people would laugh at me. Glen McRoy was as polite as possible in repeatedly calling him 'erratic'. If you are 6ft 9 and full of confidence and heart, it can get you a long way.
I think WK is aging but he was exposed a bit too. He benefitted for years for having a significant size advantage over his opponents. Tonight he was the smaller man and couldn't adjust.
Division is poor but credit where it's due. Klitschko has beaten the best that division has to offer for over a decade -- going to Germany with a game plan and sticking with it. Absolutely superb performance regardless of the overall division quality -- Wlad is a world class operator, even at 39.
Yes. Sticking to a game plan doesn't equal quality boxing in my opinion.
How many shots were even thrown overall in the whole fight, never mind actually landed.
Klitschko has been a good champion, you can't really question that given him longevity, although I would put it down in part to the fact that the heavyweight division has been a joke for the guts of 25 years.
He didn't show it tonight, and the result was due as much to him showing his age, and a bit of a lack hunger as it was to Furys fight plan IMO.
There was nothing brilliant about it.
Typical posts you'd expect tonight, Wlad is old, the division is poor etc etc. End of the day most were saying Fury was done for and he took the fight with ease. He made the fight sell and apologised to both Lewis and Wlad tonight for his antics, explaining what it was. Fair play to him, he'd taken 3 belts in the champion of 10 years own back yard, no one can take that away from him.
Would love to see dust up with Haye and Josh. Haye, although the better boxer must be kicking himself!
Would love to see dust up with Haye and Josh. Haye, although the better boxer must be kicking himself!
Yep, and in my view part of what makes a quality boxer is the ability to adjust and beat the man thats in front of you.
Just like the all time great Buster Douglas knocking out Mike Tyson then.
Haye even being in the running for a shot at the title is an indication of how poor the division is.
Yeah ok, it was rubbish. boxing's shit and I want to die.
You did more to that strawman than happened in 12 rounds tonight.
what?
In 30 years of watching boxing that was one of most forgettable title fights I can remember.
I'm not going to get into what is and what isn't a good fight as clearly that is a subjective opinion. i've already posted why I thought it was a remarkable achievement what Fury did in the ring tonight as have others. If you don't agree, good for you.
Throwing a punch or two is generally a universally accepted element.
I couldn't care less who won BTW, but as a spectical of boxing, and leaving aside whatever bullshit soap opera plot they employ to sell ppv subscriptions, it was a dire display.
Post fight presser should start to give us an inclination of how unbearable Fury will be as world champion... If we don't already know.
Agree to disagree
Mostly because there were less shots on target than United earlier.
People have been moaning for years that two robotic Ukrainian fighters have dominated the heavyweight boxing division. People have moaned that nobody has seriously challenged them, that the weight division has got boring and predictable, and have moaned that the brothers are both so dull and lack proper charisma or personality and that the majority of title fights have been a huge joke or a complete let down.
Now we have a Champion who causes controversy, is absolutely batshit insane and will go to any lengths to show how insane he is (dressing as batman, singing when crowned champion) he will say extremely unpopular things and he doesn't seem to give a shit what he says or who he offends and he's being slated for it. He had a game plan, he spelled out what he was going to do, and he went out and did it. Perfectly. And now he is being slagged for it? It's amazing and like many boxing fans don't actually know what they want. They want a different champion, just not this guy.
I don't like Fury at all, I think he is a complete buffoon, but I have to admire him because he did exactly what he said he would do, and in the way he said he would. He has taken the titles from a stale old fighter who had absolutely no personality inside or outside of the ring. His boxing style was based around using his size and reach to keep people away and he never really excited crowds or fans because of his one dimensional style that mirrored his personality. Klitchko losing is only good for boxing and especially the heavyweight division, no matter who he lost to.
Now Fury can go off and brag about his accomplishments and act the big man and say controversial things and act the twat and breath some life and interest into a division that has been crying out for just that for years. People will be queueing up to see him get knocked out. At the same time, the real future star of the division, and the best fighter I have seen since Mike Tyson, Anthony Joshua, can carry on doing what he is doing and then come and take the division by storm!
Now we have a Champion who causes controversy, is absolutely batshit insane and will go to any lengths to show how insane he is (dressing as batman, singing when crowned champion) he will say extremely unpopular things and he doesn't seem to give a shit what he says or who he offends and he's being slated for it. He had a game plan, he spelled out what he was going to do, and he went out and did it. Perfectly. And now he is being slagged for it? It's amazing and like many boxing fans don't actually know what they want. They want a different champion, just not this guy.
I don't like Fury at all, I think he is a complete buffoon, but I have to admire him because he did exactly what he said he would do, and in the way he said he would. He has taken the titles from a stale old fighter who had absolutely no personality inside or outside of the ring. His boxing style was based around using his size and reach to keep people away and he never really excited crowds or fans because of his one dimensional style that mirrored his personality. Klitchko losing is only good for boxing and especially the heavyweight division, no matter who he lost to.
Now Fury can go off and brag about his accomplishments and act the big man and say controversial things and act the twat and breath some life and interest into a division that has been crying out for just that for years. People will be queueing up to see him get knocked out. At the same time, the real future star of the division, and the best fighter I have seen since Mike Tyson, Anthony Joshua, can carry on doing what he is doing and then come and take the division by storm!
You're talking shit mate. British boxing is booming.
Don't think I'll ever reach such a high off of boxing for a long time. It was all just perfect. Fecking love boxing.
Problem with Tyson Fury is that he doesn't even has a puncher's chance cause he hasn't got good power for someone his size. He needs to outbox Wlad...
All the people in here and all the sports writers slating Fury sum up the mentality of the majority of our country - losers.
Made up for Fury.
(Doesn't mean I agree with his beliefs but don't believe everything Oli Holt writes either!)
Made up for Fury.
(Doesn't mean I agree with his beliefs but don't believe everything Oli Holt writes either!)
Why limit things to British boxing when it's a tiny part of the sport.
Happy for Fury although it lost me money. But it was a shit fight, and that's how it was always going to be.
I watched Canelo Alvarez vs Cotto afterwards, now that's how boxing should be. But to think every fight will be like that is unrealistic.
I watched Canelo Alvarez vs Cotto afterwards, now that's how boxing should be. But to think every fight will be like that is unrealistic.
Agreed. Possibly one of the most boring title fights in recent memory, punctuated by the Champ barely participating in the fight.
Was it worse than Mayweather v Pacman?
Anyone would be cautious to let their hands go if they're being caught by 245lbs left hooks every time they come in to throw a punch.
I would put it down to the fact that he had a legit reason to duck the best heavyweight on the planet for the last 12 years. He was never really the best, but he was the 2nd best.
That´s not how boxing should be either. One guy winning unconvincingly due to having a gigantic size and age advantage. You reverse the size and age parameters and Cotto beats the living piss out of Canelo and stops him in five rounds. And that´s the story of nearly all of Canelo´s fights. Canelo will never fight somebody his own size that can punch. Sucks for GGG.
Slightly worse imo since in that one at least both fighters participated. Klitschko looked like he had better things to do than participating in a boxing match.
Ahhh, ok. I was listening on the radio and it didn't sound very exciting, only during the last couple of rounds could you hear the commentators and crowd start to get louder and be interested in the action.
Exactly this. He needed to find a way to get in because Fury will go down if caught (and get up probably). However, he didn't precisely because he was afraid of getting caught. The fight wansn't a classic by any stretch but it was a stunning performance that was unexpected. Froch, said in the commentary afterwards that he was mesmerized by Fury's performance. Tactically, the fight plan was execeuted to perfection and dominated a 10 year world champion against all odds and opinion pre-fight to win a points decision in Germany which has an unbelievable track record of appalling decisions. For this he deserves all the plaudits. Kudos to him.
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In the past 10 years I've probably only watched five of the highest billing fights and they've all ended up shit.
Nah mate, Fury showed all he needed to. Can only beat what's in front of him and he nullified him absolutely.