The RedCafe Boxing Thread

6-1 FM to me. MM needs a knockdown to get into the fight now. Can't see him winning all of the remaining rounds. Close ones will go to FM's classier, efficient work.

Floyd taking jabs is nothing new. It's his weakness and is well documented. Few fights are won from jabs alone though.
 
Is it just me who is bored by this fight? Im not a boxing fanatic but this is just one guy running from the other.

mayweather has built his career by not getting hit. That is the genius of him. You have to admire the way he misses, glances, dodges, blocks every single fighter that comes against him.
 
It's great, but this shouldn't be the pinnacle of the sport IMO

Maidana is no way near the level of Mayweather tho. He is simply being completely outclassed in the ring. It is like Barcelona. They just keep the ball, the other team needs to come to them and they play through them. This guy did not deserve a rematch anyway. Just not in the same league as him. No one is tho
 
Maidana is no way near the level of Mayweather tho. He is simply being completely outclassed in the ring. It is like Barcelona. They just keep the ball, the other team needs to come to them and they play through them. This guy did not deserve a rematch anyway. Just not in the same league as him. No one is tho

Agree that a rematch wasn't deserved. And why is Maidana holding up his fecking arms?
 
Easy easy, flawless from Floyd

I thought he might be in trouble in this fight given his age, but he's coasted to victory here.
 
mayweather has built his career by not getting hit. That is the genius of him. You have to admire the way he misses, glances, dodges, blocks every single fighter that comes against him.

Genius? The only thing I can compare it to in sport is parking the bus, 12 rounds running away and holding, cowardly tactic. I don't follow boxing but when I watch a BOXING match I expecting to see BOXING.
 
Genius? The only thing I can compare it to in sport is parking the bus, 12 rounds running away and holding, cowardly tactic. I don't follow boxing but when I watch a BOXING match I expecting to see BOXING.

the fact that Maidana misses most of his power punches by a couple centimetres because Floyd dodges them and counters is boxing. He doesn't need to go toe to toe with Maidana. He just outboxes him.
 
mayweather has built his career by not getting hit. That is the genius of him. You have to admire the way he misses, glances, dodges, blocks every single fighter that comes against him.
Exactly, this is the brilliance of mayweather, if you don't know by now that Floyd is a boxer and not a fighter they shouldn't be buying the tickets for this.
 
Bastard landed one punch in round 12. Get Khan in for May, at least he poses some danger.
 
the fact that Maidana misses most of his power punches by a couple centimetres because Floyd dodges them and counters is boxing. He doesn't need to go toe to toe with Maidana. He just outboxes him.

His dodging speed is impressive and of course that's a part of boxing but running away from 12 rounds and holding any time he could surely it must bore you?
 
His dodging speed is impressive and of course that's a part of boxing but running away from 12 rounds and holding any time he could surely it must bore you?
How about the fact that Mayweather probably landed as many punches as this Madonna chump did? You know what's even more boring? Watching some untalented lump, with no flair, no technique and no brain, flailing his arms about for 40 mins.
 
His dodging speed is impressive and of course that's a part of boxing but running away from 12 rounds and holding any time he could surely it must bore you?
He is hardly going to stand and fight now is he with his ability and speed to dodge those punches, the point of the game is to not get hit and also his hands are shot if he got in to a real scrap he wouldn't be boxing twice a year.
 
Maidana thought he won :annoyed:

He might have been the aggressor but he hit him with feck all, really besides the 4th Floyd was comfortable for the entire fight whilst picking him off with counter rights.
 
Maidana thought he won :annoyed:

He might have been the aggressor but he hit him with feck all, really besides the 4th Floyd was comfortable for the entire fight whilst picking him off with counter rights.

He knows he didn't win. It's just all part of self-promotion to make the fight sound closer than it was.
 
Scorecards were generous to Maidana. Giving him every benefit of the doubt, I could see him getting 3 or possibly even 4 rounds, but not 5. Round 4 was the only one he clearly won, and there were 2 or 3 others that neither decisively won. That's being very generous to him though. Mayweather was comfortable but that wasn't a masterclass imo. Moments of brilliance, but he held loads and got hit more often than I'd expect.
 
Genius? The only thing I can compare it to in sport is parking the bus, 12 rounds running away and holding, cowardly tactic. I don't follow boxing but when I watch a BOXING match I expecting to see BOXING.

:lol:
 
Scorecards were generous to Maidana. Giving him every benefit of the doubt, I could see him getting 3 or possibly even 4 rounds, but not 5. Round 4 was the only one he clearly won, and there were 2 or 3 others that neither decisively won. Mayweather was comfortable but that was far from a masterclass imo. Moments of brilliance, but he held loads and got hit more often than I'd expect.

Round 12 he won clearly too; Floyd landed one punch. For boxing purists, I'm sure that was great to watch. But even then, there was too much clinching, Floyd didn't stay in the pocket as much as he usually does and Bayless was breaking too early. Really disappointed with the fight.
 
Stroll in the park for FM. Not sure where the Maidana from the first fight was tonight.

Indeed, really puzzling considering the success he had in the first.

I did think Floyd fought better this time, particularly in the 1st and 2nd it was a totally different fight and Maidana couldn't get close - Mayweathers movement was on another level to the first fight, in which too often he fell back to the ropes.

But I agree with you, very disappointing from Maidana - hell, ignore the first fight and the success he had there, you would think after the 4th that he would realise his best shot is just to revert to being aggressive and throwing lots of punches.

It turned into a really typical Mayweather fight. I almost rolled my eyes when the commentator said 'Maidana just needs that one big punch' - I mean really, we've been hearing that for over a decade and it doesnt happen.
 
Round 12 he won clearly too; Floyd landed one punch. For boxing purists, I'm sure that was great to watch. But even then, there was too much clinching, Floyd didn't stay in the pocket as much as he usually does and Bayless was breaking too early. Really disappointed with the fight.

I can't stand Bayless.
 
He will never lose, he's just some sort of evasive boxing wizard. Want to see him in there with Khan though I can't see it happening.
 
Mayweather is a boxing genius. He knows how to win, and in the end that's all that matters.

I would like to see Khan face him. Not that I think Khan would win, but his speed would cause Floyd more problems than Maidana did.
 
It was a boxing clinic last night. I had 10-2 for Floyd (4th and 12th), -1pt also for Maidana meant 118-109 by my book.

Those saying Floyd ran away only had a case in the 12th round only. Anything else is disregarding the whole art of boxing. That is to hit and not be hit, or at least, not be hit cleanly. While it may not be attractive viewing to casual fans, the technical work involved with Floyd's upper body fluidity and reactions is exceptional. His ability to draw leads from the slightest feint, then cat like agility to pounce on those moments and land a scoring punch that while rarely a knockout shot, is always a clear point scoring punch that the judges will recognise. It means he is always in control of the fight when it's at medium to long distance, even when not leading the action by throwing the first punch himself. His efficiency and use of those abilities in particular is up there with Willie Pep as the greatest ever in a boxing ring - yes, greater than Roy Jones Jr in his prime too.

For more on that, see this -

Back to Floyd, his cross guarded, shoulder roll defence allows him to catch the majority of punches that appear to hit him on tv. Any that do hit are often deflected off a forearm or shoulder on their way through or at the full reach of the opponents punch, and thus the power is vastly reduced when they do land. His evasiveness is an elite skill as highly regarded in the boxing world as one of the best skills to be showcased ever in the ring.

The one punch that Floyd is often open to is a straight jab, and this is a deliberate move. A jab can control a fight if landed regularly but Floyd never allows it to against him. However, he lets his opponents land jabs because they are the softest single punches that are thrown, it then allows Floyd to time their release and launch counters.



Those criticising Kenny Bayless, while I agree there was leniency toward Floyd who could and probably should have had a point taken away also for the forearm in the face work, you must understand that Floyd's dirty work is much cuter. It is not as obvious. Kenny Bayless is not deliberately choosing to ignore it, it's all part of the Mayweather style. Hatton said when they fought he was surprised most with how good Floyd was at that side of the game.

As such, I advise any boxing fans to watch this short 13min documentary on Kenny Bayless - it includes his perspective of the Hatton demolition by Pacquiao and Khan's stoppage loss to Danny Garcia. In the referees view, it's hard not to disagree with Bayless.

 
Watching Floyd is a thing of beauty. For the purists that enjoy the likes of Floyd and Rigo just shutting out an opponent and completely outclassing them, that was a very good display.

I think if you've boxed aswell then you can really appreciate the talent that these guys possess.
 
Another Mayweather borefest. I don't understand when he never gets penalized for holding. It's embarrassing he calls himself the best ever. He probably fools some fans in believing it as well.
 
Watching Floyd is a thing of beauty. For the purists that enjoy the likes of Floyd and Rigo just shutting out an opponent and completely outclassing them, that was a very good display.

I think if you've boxed aswell then you can really appreciate the talent that these guys possess.

I'd rather watch Pacquiao on his worst day. You can see extremely honed technical ability and, you know, actual violence.