The MMA thread

Good stuff from Diaz. That was painful to watch though, Davis couldn't handle the reach and got taken apart standing, and then choked into unconsciousness. His right eye is a state.
 
Come on KenFlo!

Hopefully Maynard doesn't get to turn this into a snoozefest like the Lentz fight and gets beaten, badly
 
Maynard two rounds up, Kenny has to pull out the stops
 
Maynard is an exceedingly boring fighter. Does he do anything but take people down and.. err.. what, exactly?

No, another Fitch. I hate these types.

Decision to Maynard :( Expected more from Florian
 
You know what though, at least Fitch is relentless. And his control in any position is brilliant. How cheap is Maynard waiting till the last few seconds of the round doing literally nothing and then 1 takedown to steal the round.
 
Now I just hope BJ really puts on a show against Frankie Edgar. Maynard wouldn't find it so easy going against him.

You know what though, at least Fitch is relentless. And his control in any position is brilliant. How cheap is Maynard waiting till the last few seconds of the round doing literally nothing and then 1 takedown to steal the round.

This is true. I don't like Fitch, but he does seem to go for it, and stays busy. Maynard did little but back up, and then shoot. And then.. half try to punch him a couple of times.
 
More of the same shit from wrestlers. This kinda thing is really turning me off UFC. These "mixed martial artists" are all the same: big muscular guys that just LnP. They get warned that theyll be stood up, so they throw a few punches and go back to being deadweight.
 
You know what though, at least Fitch is relentless. And his control in any position is brilliant. How cheap is Maynard waiting till the last few seconds of the round doing literally nothing and then 1 takedown to steal the round.

Good point, Fitch always puts 100% into each fight, always working, so Maynard comparisons are pretty unfair
 
True, normally BJ's takedown defence is from another dimension. Although it wasnt in evidence against Edgar last time around... But yeah if there's one lightweight who can take Maynard's only tool away from him and stop him becoming champ then its BJ Penn.

Edgar can wrestle but I'd imagine he'd just be too small to stop Maynard doing the same shit to him.

Very tired, even forgot they fought before and if I recall it was indeed the same shit.
 
Unfortunately Maynard's gameplan is very effective and I think there's a decent chance he could it to BJ too. BJ has all the ability to beat Maynard down but his conditioning and mindset is always suspect and I think he could be ground down by Maynard and lose a few rounds. Hope I'm wrong though, I'd love BJ to beat him good and proper, obviously I'm hoping he does the same to Edgar tonight.
 
I just dont want Maynard holding the title. So if BJ is the guy who is going to beat him, then I gotta pull for him. Of course Maynard could add things to his arsenal and I could end up liking him. But the current Maynard... Give me a break. I dont mind a wrestler who beats his opponent from guard and halfguard. But you've got to beat them up good and proper with lots of strikes and make sure they know they've been in a fight. Then its okay by me. Sonnen and Fitch do that.
 
A couple of fights to save the card I think. This has all been very forgettable so far apart from J Lau.
 
I just dont want Maynard holding the title. So if BJ is the guy who is going to beat him, then I gotta pull for him. Of course Maynard could add things to his arsenal and I could end up liking him. But the current Maynard... Give me a break. I dont mind a wrestler who beats his opponent from guard and halfguard. But you've got to beat them up good and proper with lots of strikes and make sure they know they've been in a fight. Then its okay by me. Sonnen and Fitch do that.

Agree. Maynard's just about exploiting the rules, Fitch and Sonnen aren't pretty but they're battlers. Maynard would be a horrible champion.

Toney - Couture coming up :D i'm fecking nervous, I don't want Toney to get humiliated here and it could well happen. Hoping he wins by Gogoplata :D
 
Toney by flying Armbar in the first minute.

Couture wont have time to tap. When Toney's bodyweight flys through the air and hits Randy in the face, it'll be

Pay yo lectric bill. Lights out.

If the worst happens and Toney catches him, puts him on the ground and pounds him out I do think there will be a few pros as well as the cons. I think some younger boxers might want to try their hand at mma and could learn to be real mixed martial artists.
 
Toney by flying Armbar in the first minute.

Couture wont have time to tap. When Toney's bodyweight flys through the air and hits Randy in the face, it'll be

Pay yo lectric bill. Lights out.

If the worst happens and Toney catches him, puts him on the ground and pounds him out I do think there will be a few pros as well as the cons. I think some younger boxers might want to try their hand at mma and could learn to be real mixed martial artists.

:lol:
 
Couture got a black belt for subbing Toney :lol: Lesnar must be pissed he didn't get one for Carwin
 
Great start for the answer. Used to be that BJ hadnt been taken down in years. Edgar's managed 2 in the first round, and several in the last fight.
 
Looking pretty similar to the last fight at the moment
 
I think BJ is just confused and has lost a lot of confidence. I think he's up for the fight, he has absolutely no excuse not to be. But he just doesnt know how to win this fight.
 
Unreal, didn't think this'd happen again. Seems there's something seriously wrong with Penn
 
As they say, styles make fights. Wouldnt be surprised if BJ dominates his next opponent, anyone but Frank Edgar. Sort of like Franklin and Anderson Silva. It wasnt the end of Franklin when he lost the rematch, he moved up to light heavyweight and may end up with a title shot who knows? But he just couldnt beat Anderson Silva. And BJ Penn cant beat Frankie Edgar.
 
I'd like to see Gomi go on a tear, would be delighted to see him as Champion. Perhaps Penn vs Gomi II next? Or a rematch with Florian

I really hope Edgar beats Maynard. Showed great strength and wrestling this fight so there's promising signs there.

If Mir were to beat Crocop @ UFC 119, how about Crocop vs Toney?
 
I bet Toney gets cut and that was his last fight in the UFC.

However if not, Anderson Silva Vs. James Toney would be something magical. Would have to be at a catchweight though most likely unless Toney goes on an 8 month diet.
 
I think Toney could still be pretty lucrative to the UFC if they gave him the right fight, and there are some great fights around for him. Could give him Carwin as well perhaps. Having a wrestler take him to the ground and choke him out is one thing, but put someone in there who'd stand with him. If Silva danced around him or Crocop took him out with a LHK it'd be an even bigger victory for MMA, but the fights would be more competitive and Toney would be a very serious threat.
 
I dont think Dana let him have a fight because its lucrative though. As he said, Toney picked a fight. He had to prove something and show something that suggested that in a very short UFC career, he could hang with the best of them.

He was completely and utterly made to look a fool.

Had he won the fight, I think he might have seen out his contract. But I mean, he only got one in the first place because he stalked Dana White and threatened to show up on his doorstep.

And dont get me wrong, there are UFC fighters out there who just stand and bang and want exciting wars. Like Sam Stout for example.

But he's not fighting Brock Lesnar or the other big draws and he doesnt make even a small percentage of the money Toney makes in boxing. I dont think he'll be interested in fighting those lesser known names, or the kind of money he'll be offered to do it.