100%, but imagine have only one loss on record and it being to a blatant cheater, that said UFC put both Royce Gracie and Ken Shamrock in the Hall of Fame so they give no shites about Ped's.
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100%, but imagine have only one loss on record and it being to a blatant cheater, that said UFC put both Royce Gracie and Ken Shamrock in the Hall of Fame so they give no shites about Ped's.
Taking steroids doesn't give you phenomenal skill and artistry. Steroids or no steroids Jones stands alone as the greatest there has ever been. He's just a phenomenal talent. Cormier knows this, hence his bitterness.
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Not sure if DC really cares about it as he's pushing for a Lesnar fight
Impressive from DC but he certainly didn't "separate himself" from a fighter who beat him twice. He will forever be in Jones' shadow unless he actually beats him in the octagon, which at this late stage of his career, appears increasingly unlikely. He shouldn't therefore allow it to continue eating him up from within and just press on and retire.
It does make your bone strenght better and mental awareness of the present moment faster, though I do believe Jones has a good fight IQ.
I get it, but until we see Jones at heavyweight, there will be the question of how he would do against them, while Cormier is undefeated in that division.
I agree 100% but cheating is cheating. Skill and artistry only goes so far. While Jones would be a great fighter with or without, there is no doubting he has cheated at this stage. Would a non-pedded up Jones beat Cormier, who knows? but the fact is Cormier has a big blemish on his record and that blemish was caused by a known cheater. He's right to be bitter.
By the way, if Gus loses this fight he will enter Faber territory unfortunately. Hope he isn't that guy who always loses the big one.
Dont think he will ever have a better shot. Jones will be rusty.
Jones has fought more recently than Gus
See i also agree in the thinking that the kick wasn't a part of the drug use BUT the drug use can lead to more rigorous training, better overall performance in the fight etc.
Even if it is a bit of "salt in an Olympic size pool" as he loves to state, it's still cheating as the traces found are illegal. It is a no PED policy... Not a small dosage of PED policy.
If you cheat on a sport and get caught then rightfully there will always be an appendix next to your record.
So if this is a trace amount detected left over from the last time he got busted, how do they know the original bust wasn't a trace amount from taking the drug a year before? If I remember correctly they never found any tainted supplement or anything. They just said the amount was so small and hadn't showed up on other tests, so it must have been accidental. But this is also so small and didn't show up on previous tests. So what is the difference between what has happened now and what happened 17 months ago? Surely the only difference is that 17 months ago they couldn't us the excuse of it being a trace amount left from when he last took the drug!
I hope Jones win against Gus and DC, just to see how pissed off @George Owen gets
I'd usually root for Gus, as a fellow Scandinavian.
I hate that Jones fecked up his career like he did, i still enjoy watching him fight.
I deserve it.
For the first fight, i was rooting for Jones and defended his victory decision for the belt (even if Gus had won the first 3 rounds, Jones fecked him up late, and I'm of the opinion, a belt needs to be won decisively). In hindsight, obviously his roided body would had much better stamina than Gus, and that's why he won. Having better endurance, will help you make the best decisions until late in the fight.
Then, somehow i ended up rooting against DC for his first fight with Jones. I had always loved DC until then, but i kinda didn't liked the new DC doing trash talk.. whatever. Fell for the Jones enchantment too.
I totally bought his crocodile tears
His talent is so amazing, i wanted to give him all the opportunities, but the guy is a sociopath cnut and has no remedy. I really hope Gustafsson Knocks his ass off this time, but with PEDs still in Jones body, will be a hard task.
I deserve it.
For the first fight, i was rooting for Jones and defended his victory decision for the belt (even if Gus had won the first 3 rounds, Jones fecked him up late, and I'm of the opinion, a belt needs to be won decisively). In hindsight, obviously his roided body would had much better stamina than Gus, and that's why he won. Having better endurance, will help you make the best decisions until late in the fight.
Then, somehow i ended up rooting against DC for his first fight with Jones. I had always loved DC until then, but i kinda didn't liked the new DC doing trash talk.. whatever. Fell for the Jones enchantment too.
I totally bought his crocodile tears
I really hope Gustafsson Knocks his ass off this time, but with PEDs still in Jones body, will be a hard task.
Get your excuses in early.
Is that right? Would not of thought that was the case.
Have you seen his social media? Very unimpressed
I’d like to know how he passed the rest of the tests during camp if this was the lowest detected or was there other tests which didn’t pick it up
Rogan suggested that the specificity of the testing process evolved over the past year or two to where things that weren't detected then may be detected in the present (albeit at highly low levels).
Have you seen his social media? Very unimpressed
Hunt is a loser....literally. He's lost 4 out of his last 5. How he is still on the UFC roster is completely baffling, especially when he's 44 and constantly insulting them.
Gus last fight was against Glover Teixeira in May 2017.
The amount detected is close to the same as the amount they claimed was detected last time, which makes it all the more ludicrous.
Some strange facts about this from what I can gather:
1. The 'residual' leftovers found in this positive test are equal if not higher than the original positive test in 2017.
2. They are claiming that there is no evidence of a new ingestion. However there is no test to distinguish between new and old ingestions in the first place! It's just as correct to say they have no evidence that it isn't a new ingestion.
3. There's never been another case of Tbol metabolite being detected 18 months after the first positive test. The original test was already claimed to be a trace amount. So the first case of a Tbol metabolite being detected after 18 months is from a trace amount?
5. The other tests Jon has passed in 2018 didn't even test for the long term Tbol metabolite that he popped for both times. Yes that's right, the thing that he tested positive for they didn't even bother to test again until now...which he failed again.
4. The UFC and Novitzky keep citing 'external experts' and other similar cases in interviews without actually providing any examples or names and no such cases or experts have come forward.
5. Andy Foster of CSAC was defending Jon during his trial and is a big fan. His support for Jon stems from his belief that 'It doesn't make any sense' and what else....
6. Other athletes have been given long suspensions for up to 60x less the amount Jon's current test failed.
It appears there have been cases where this has happened previously, but appears to be rare. I suppose testing is so much improved now they can trace tiny amounts?
They need a fighters union asap I think. Fighters on the card are being screwed over by this, and as for fans who have booked tickets..
https://www.abc15.com/sports/sports...er-reinstated-by-ncaa-after-failing-drug-test
They need a fighters union asap I think. Fighters on the card are being screwed over by this, and as for fans who have booked tickets..
https://www.abc15.com/sports/sports...er-reinstated-by-ncaa-after-failing-drug-test
I'm not a hardcore watcher by all means but I can't take Jon Jones seriously after all the PED stories.
It's madness that Machida got a 18 month suspension for taking 7-keto-DHEA and Jones barely got one year for Turinabol... double standards.
Nick Diaz got 5 years not too long ago for weed. It's all par for the course.
This is besides Bones now. The very fact that organisers fecked fans over like that - it's just despicable.
I've seen so many daft comments on the matter, ie; if you've enough money for this -- 4 hour drive shouldn't be too much bother for you. No. You fecking dickheads -- it's the principle. No single fan should be subjected to this, no matter their bank balance. It's a fecking joke. It's the same fans saying this who wouldn't attend a UFC event if it was in their back fecking garden. Dana needs to fecking have a look at himself. Doubtful, I know.
I hear the UFC is allowing people who bought Vegas tickets to use them in LA. The accommodations and inconvenience of a 3 hour road trip aside of course. Ultimately, its a financial issue for the UFC and losing Jones would mean losing 30-40m in PPV revenue since nobody gives a feck about Nunes, Cyborg or the other minnows on the card. Jones v Gus is the draw and allowing the card to crumble because the Vegas sanctioning people were on Christmas break was just never going to happen.
If the reason for him being "clean" from the second test is true then that means that he got way too lenient of a sentence the first time around. Personally I don't buy it that he's clean but Dana is doing whatever to make this happen because money and feck integrity.
That's the trouble with doing it once. Even if you're clean in subsequent tests, there will always be a group of cynical fans waiting to brand you as a cheat irrespective of whether or not your tests come up negative.
There is so much wrong with this, let me dive in.
Steroids might not give you the coordination to pull these things off, but it can give you the fitness to pull these things off, so, in effect, they can give you the coordination to pull these things off.
Allow me to give you an anecdotal example of what I mean. When I was 22, I could run flat out down the field (American football) on a streak pattern, and for shits and giggles I could catch the ball behind my back. Me at 39, I still have that coordination, I do not have the flexibility, speed, or basic all around physical conditioning to do that at anything more than a trot now. Put me on the Joe Rogan protocol of HGH and TRT out the ass, and I could probably do it at a solid running speed.
Steroids give you fitness. They give you strength. When you are at peak levels of fitness, your coordination isn't any better, but you can push the limits of your coordination further. Steroids allow you to train harder, recover faster, reach higher levels of skill and "artistry" because the steroids allow you to develop muscle memory at higher levels of work.
It's one thing to trot down field and catch a ball behind your back, and another to be in full flat out sprint. Likewise, it's different throwing a kick at someones head when you're going 30%, and throwing a kick at someones head when you're in the fight of your life, and losing the last half of every round.
Steroids allow you to perform in training at a higher level, so that when you've got a guy like DC walking you down, and brutalizing you for the last 2 minutes of each round, you have the conditioning and muscle memory to throw that kick at 100% effort in a very difficult situation. When you feel good, you perform good. When you feel great, you try shit you'd never try otherwise. When all the little stabilizing muscles, all the major muscles are in absolute peak condition, you feel like a lord, and your confidence is not only through the roof because you feel great, but you know your body is actually capable of pulling these high skill "artistic" moves off.
Simply put, Jones is a cheater. He's doping again. It's indisputable. If you bought the UFC's excuse, you don't understand how steroids work, or how testing protocols work. You don't suddenly piss hot for a steroid that has a ~16 hour half life, 18 months later, when all preceding tests using the same protocol were negative.
Hunt is a legend. You shit talk Dana, he shit talks Dana, but you seem to have issue with that! Hunt does it and he is employed by them and doesn't give a feck.
Fans can criticize Dana all they want, its part in parcel of being a spectator. Hunt, at this stage, is no more relevant or entertaining than the likes Lyoto, Shogun, Rashad, or any of the other geriatric brigade fighters. No excuses for having a 44 year old guy who loses every fight he's in while criticizing the promotion. If he hates the UFC then he should probably put his money where his mouth is and stop profiting off of them by either retiring or fecking off to some lower level promotion.
I swear Hunt wanted to switch organizations after the Brock fight but want allowed to because he had some fights left on his contact?
He could've asked to be released.
Same thing. He wanted release from UFC so he can go elsewhere. Wasnt granted it.
If true then both sides are to blame for Hunt's constant moaning, despite not being good enough to win any of his fights.
Funny thing is, does he think fighters in other organizations don't do PEDs? If he thinks that then he's an idiot.