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Beat me to it. I've seen Judo in particular used very effectively :lol:

I did judo for 5 years. From 5 years old to 10. Even though it was a long long time ago - I can tell you it helped me a lot in scraps.
 
Any form of grappling is quality in a street fight if you know what you're doing. Being slammed on the floor is fecking painful and not the shit you see in the movies. People dont just get back up.
Given that most street fights end up on the ground, saying wrestling is neutralised is absurd.
 
Given that most street fights end up on the ground, saying wrestling is nullified is absurd.

Yeah and someone gets seriously hurt. Having your head punched and then hitting of the hard concrete can be deadly.
 
A heated standoff in the lobby is completely fair play. Smashing busses and injuring other fighters is obviously not.
It wasn't a stand off. Khabib and his goons swarmed Artem, punked him and even bitch slapped him.
Bully boy tactics from a thug. Now they end up hiding in a bus when retaliation comes their way.
The only way that "Heated standoff" didn't end up like this shitshow is due to Artem being alone.
Im just sick of it. Although Ill never be sick of seeing bullies back down when confronted and I'll never get sick of seeing twats like Conor piss their lifes work away.
This sport needs a clearout. Hopefully Conor ends up in Jon Jones old cell.
 
Hearing rumours that Rose might also be off the card because of this incident... feck you if that's true Conor.
 
It wasn't a stand off. Khabib and his goons swarmed Artem, punked him and even bitch slapped him.
Bully boy tactics from a thug. Now they end up hiding in a bus when retaliation comes their way.
The only way that "Heated standoff" didn't end up like this shitshow is due to Artem being alone.
Im just sick of it. Although Ill never be sick of seeing bullies back down when confronted and I'll never get sick of seeing twats like Conor piss their lifes work away.
This sport needs a clearout. Hopefully Conor ends up in Jon Jones old cell.
There is a warrant out for McGregor's arrest and you are banging on about a nothing incident in a lobby. Says it all.
 
It wasn't a stand off. Khabib and his goons swarmed Artem, punked him and even bitch slapped him.
Bully boy tactics from a thug. Now they end up hiding in a bus when retaliation comes their way.
The only way that "Heated standoff" didn't end up like this shitshow is due to Artem being alone.
Im just sick of it. Ill never be sick of seeing bullies back down when confronted and I'll never get sick of seeing twats like Conor piss their lifes work away.
This sport needs a clearout. Hopefully Conor ends up in Jon Jones old cell.

I've seen every video of the Artem/Khabib handbags. Next time Artem should probably keep his mouth shut about other fighters and mind his own business. What happened there was no different than what occasionally happens at face offs. What McGregor did was in a completely different category. He is in jail.
 
Any form of grappling is quality in a street fight if you know what you're doing. Being slammed on the floor is fecking painful and not the shit you see in the movies. People dont just get back up.
Oh, I was talking about this kind of nonsense though. You're not fighting for position when theres blind punches and kicks coming from all angles.
Theres a video of Khabibs crew street fighting with the scrap pack from a few years ago. Lets say there weren't many double legs being attempted.
 
It wasn't a stand off. Khabib and his goons swarmed Artem, punked him and even bitch slapped him.
Bully boy tactics from a thug. Now they end up hiding in a bus when retaliation comes their way.
The only way that "Heated standoff" didn't end up like this shitshow is due to Artem being alone.
Im just sick of it. Ill never be sick of seeing bullies back down when confronted and I'll never get sick of seeing twats like Conor piss their lifes work away.
This sport needs a clearout. Hopefully Conor ends up in Jon Jones old cell.

It was nothing like that if you know the culture of where Khabib is from. He will always fight his own battles. Sure, Artem was intimidated but no way anyone other than Khabib would have hit him. Doesn't work like that in Dagestan, Chechnya. They're very proud folk and you talk shit you will answer for it. And as for being bitch slapped why didnt Lobov hit him or defend himself? He's as much a a Russian as I am. He knew full well it was always between him and Khabib.
 
That little slap on the back of the neck was hardly a bitch slap. Or was there an actual bitch slap that I missed?
 
Oh, I was talking about this kind of nonsense though. You're not fighting for position when theres blind punches and kicks coming from all angles.
Theres a video of Khabibs crew street fighting with the scrap pack from a few years ago. Lets say there weren't many double legs being attempted.

Listen I pretty aware what happens in a street fight. And every fight is different because you don't know where it's going to be but saying Judo or wrestling or BJJ isnt effective in a fight is utter fecking bollocks.
 
I've seen every video of the Artem/Khabib handbags. Next time Artem should probably keep his mouth shut about other fighters and mind his own business. What happened there was no different than what occasionally happens at face offs. What McGregor did was in a completely different category. He is in jail.
You bring a squad of goons to catch one man alone makes you a thug. Im sorry. Thats just how I feel about it.
Anyway Ill let this go.
 
Maybe if Im not quoted several times I wouldn't have to answer!
I think the issue is with your posts, not the people quoting them. ;)

Anyway, you've said you're letting it go, now let's see what the fall out from this shit is going to be. Should be very interesting.
 
So Dana confirms that this was all about the Artem/Khabib issue and Artem was actully involved in the mob that attacked the bus. He should receive a Paul Daley award if true.
 
You bring a squad of goons to catch one man alone makes you a thug. Im sorry. Thats just how I feel about it.
Anyway Ill let this go.

He didn't "bring a squad of goons". That was simply Khabib's people who are accompanying him in NY. Dietiecian, trainers etc.
 
Dana actually suggested that maybe Conor was on drugs. It was suggestive anyway.

Artem acting the hard man after that pussy look he had on his face. fecking wanker.
 
He didn't "bring a squad of goons". That was simply Khabib's people who are accompanying him in NY. Dietiecian, trainers etc.

It was few of Dagestani mates that were with him as well. All them Chechen, Dagestani folk always together.
 
Dana actually suggested that maybe Conor was on drugs. It was suggestive anyway.

Artem acting the hard man after that pussy look he had on his face. fecking wanker.


Yeah I thought that. I’d imagine Dana knows something in regards to that and it kind of slipped out in heat of moment.

He’s at his best in times like that Dana, no bollocks can see he’s fuming and let down by it all.
 
Yeah I thought that. I’d imagine Dana knows something in regards to that and it kind of slipped out in heat of moment.

He’s at his best in times like that Dana, no bollocks can see he’s fuming and let down by it all.

He also made a good point about having a son at home and him getting on like a moron. I mean what the feck happened to Conor? He completly went off the rails. I wont be surprised if sponsors start dropping him after this. And if he was a divisive figure in UFC before; he certainly isn't now.
 
Listen I pretty aware what happens in a street fight. And every fight is different because you don't know where it's going to be but saying Judo or wrestling or BJJ isnt effective in a fight is utter fecking bollocks.
In a 1 on 1 fight yes but ( unless the accepted wisdom has shifted) youre supposed to avoid being on the ground or clinched for as long as possible with the chaos a multi man brawl brings.
Good luck pulling guard when you get kicked in the back of the head.
This is turning a bit silly now! We should meet up to test our theories..
 
I'm sure he had a couple of friends there, but what happened is being exaggerated.

I know. I completely agree. I know they surrounded Lobov and yes it would have been intimidating but lets not go overboard.
 
Hold on, if Conor gets arrested doesn't that mean he can never enter America again?
 
He also made a good point about having a son at home and him getting on like a moron. I mean what the feck happened to Conor? He completly went off the rails. I wont be surprised if sponsors start dropping him after this. And if he was a divisive figure in UFC before; he certainly isn't now.

He's probably coked up to high heaven.
 
In a 1 on 1 fight yes but ( unless the accepted wisdom has shifted) youre supposed to avoid being on the ground or clinched for as long as possible with the chaos a multi man brawl brings.
Good luck pulling guard when you get kicked in the back of the head.
This is turning a bit silly now! We should meet up to test our theories..

It depends. When I fight my first instinct is to go on the ground and on top. Then you can throw punches if need be. In a brawl with multiple people, well thats a different story, seeing as I was specifically talking about Khabib fecking McGregor up in a street fight.
It's like that Krav Maga expert dissed Gracie the other day about that basketball fight that happened. If you study a certain martial art you are always going to say it's most effective. I did Judo and it helped me in street fights so I'm always going to advocate it.
 
He's probably coked up to high heaven.

If he gets arrested now, would there be a blood test in New York state? I'm actually not sure how it works so thats why I'm asking.
 
If he gets arrested now, would there be a blood test in New York state? I'm actually not sure how it works so thats why I'm asking.

I doubt it. He would get arrested for things like destruction of property and felony assault.