The MMA thread

@Oggmonster we've probably reached a conclusion with the discussion at large. I'll just say, if I'm Wonderboy, I'd be pissed that I'm being messed with like this.

Like I've said before, the consequences, I believe, are massive should Wonderboy lose - he won't be contesting for anything belt-wise for a long, long time, if ever again and I just don't like that.

The ducking of Till makes perfect sense to me - a young, hungry and skilled fighter with nothing to lose and everything to gain in relation to whoever he's up against who's trying to consolidate their position and look upward, not down at someone who wants them as a stepping stone. Ranks should come with perks - that's essentially what they are, right, seeds?

Seeds get kept apart until it's time for a big upheaval and that's what rank is supposed to be there for in the first place.

I am surprised you didn't use Conor as an example, btw. He basically set a blueprint every up-and-comer has tried to follow to varying degrees of success. The difference there, (I was gonna counter) is that Conor riled up those big guns and they wanted to fight him - he got under their skin enough that they were willing to bet their own rank and status... Dana didn't have to do anything, which is the only way it should be - that the highly-ranked fighter calls the shots.

I like both fighters, but I feel for Wonderboy knowing why and how this has come about - it's just damn shady and disrespectful.
 
George Owen said:
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Feel bad for him being disqualified though.

The fight was still on... Its up top the ref to stop the fight.

cnutish move obviously but still not sure DQ was the right call.
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Stomping a downed opponent is illegal in almost all organizations, and that was a 2 footed koopa troop fail flip stomp.
 
Nucks said:
Stomping a downed opponent is illegal in almost all organizations, and that was a 2 footed koopa troop fail flip stomp.
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The illegal shot wasn't the reason he got DQ though. We see illegal shots in almost every fight... the fighters usually gets a warning first, maybe a point deduction if you keep on with it. If you end the fight with an illegal shot, then yeah, they get DQ (But in this case, he didn't finished the fight with an illegal strike).

A exemplary monetary fine for breaking the sportsmanship code would be enough. Or a fine plus a No Contest.

But DQ, giving his opponent the victory and him a loss? that's the part i don't agree. (But if it's in the rules, then well, feck him... lesson learned)
 
George Owen said:
The illegal shot wasn't the reason he got DQ though. We see illegal shots in almost every fight... the fighters usually gets a warning first, maybe a point deduction if you keep on with it. If you end the fight with an illegal shot, then yeah, they get DQ (But in this case, he didn't finished the fight with an illegal strike).

A exemplary monetary fine for breaking the sportsmanship code would be enough. Or a fine plus a No Contest.

But DQ, giving his opponent the victory and him a loss? that's the part i don't agree. (But if it's in the rules, then well, feck him... lesson learned)
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The other guy knocked himself out. He stomped him before the ref could stop the fight. He landed an illegal blow and the other guy could not continue, therefore he was DQ'd. That is as far as I know the official athletic commissions decision on it.
 
Less than a week away! So excited for this fight. I can see Khabib mauling Ferguson like he does with everyone but then Ferguson's ground game is top notch. You could make compelling arguments for both!
When do the embeddeds normally go up on YouTube?
 
Khabib time.

He is going to ground-n-pound Tony to the fecking dirt.
 
Apparently Ferguson is out and Holloway is in..

Could be an elaborate April Fools prank but that now seems very unlikely given the cooperation between Ariel and Dana, such a trick would require.

I love Max but Khabib will smash him to pieces, unfortunately.
 
No Love said:
Apparently Ferguson is out and Holloway is in..

Could be an elaborate April Fools prank but that now seems very unlikely given the cooperation between Ariel and Dana, such a trick would require.

I love Max but Khabib will smash him to pieces, unfortunately.
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If you're not lying, I still say you deserve a ban
 
Ah feck it's been changed on their site and all.
Feck this, how is this even for Conors belt? The interim for the interim title?
 
cyberman said:
Ah feck it's been changed on their site and all.
Feck this, how is this even for Conors belt? The interim for the interim title?
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As soon as a punch is thrown between Max/Khabib on Saturday night, McGregor is no longer Lightweight champ. This will be for the real belt.
 
Raoul said:
Just heard. Horrible news of course. But the Holloway matchup does sound tasty.
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I’m honestly worried that Max is going to suffer a severe beating on Saturday. 6 days notice, just coming off an injury and facing a monster in a higher weight class.

It gives me the same feeling I got when Anderson stepped in to fight DC. Mercifully, DC carried Anderson through that fight. I fear Khabib won’t be so accommodating.
 
No Love said:
As soon as a punch is thrown between Max/Khabib on Saturday night, McGregor is no longer Lightweight champ. This will be for the real belt.
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That's bullshit though. Tony can't be stripped like this never mind the chance of Max Halloway becoming champ!
Give Tony the real belt and have this interim. Its the only fair way around it
 
No Love said:
I’m honestly worried that Max is going to suffer a severe beating on Saturday. 6 days notice, just coming off an injury and facing a monster in a higher weight class.

It gives me the same feeling I got when Anderson stepped in to fight DC. Mercifully, DC carried Anderson through that fight. I fear Khabib won’t be so accommodating.
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Nah he'll be fine. Conor moved up from 145 and beat Alvarez (recognizing that Khabib is better than Eddie). Max is one of the best fighters in MMA right now so he should do ok.
 
Get this, Tony turned around to greet someone, tripped and ripped his ligament clean off his leg.
Max is going to get mauled. He said last week he was still injured and hoping for a Summer return.
My guess is he's been promised a fight with Conor with the winner facing the winner of Tony v Khabib.
If he loses of course.
 
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fecking hell this has to be a joke right?

4 times they've tried to make this fight now, they should never even think about matching Khabib and Tony up again. The whole thing is a farce now, Tony is the interim Champ and Conor the real champ neither of them are in the fight but it's still for a title. What a mess.

Holloway Khabib will be a cracking fight but i reckon they should have postponed this and tried to make Khabib vs McGregor for this summer.
 
Would holloway end up holding belts simultaneously if he wins? Not that he will.
 
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stevoc said:
fecking hell this has to be a joke right?

4 times they've tried to make this fight now, they should never even think about matching Khabib and Tony up again. The whole thing is a farce now, Tony is the interim Champ and Conor the real champ neither of them are in the fight but it's still for a title. What a mess.

Holloway Khabib will be a cracking fight but i reckon they should have postponed this and tried to make Khabib vs McGregor for this summer.
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On the other hand if Holloway happens to win then that could set up a mega fight between him and either Conor or Tony.
 
Raoul said:
On the other hand if Holloway happens to win then that could set up a mega fight between him and either Conor or Tony.
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Yeah that would be great i'm a fan of Holloway and McGregor. I've been wanting to see a Holloway/McGregor rematch for years, hopefully that happens no matter what happens in this fight.

Still i think they should have waited to see if they could set Khabib/McGregor up, the whole title picture is a shambles. They should have never made Ferguson Lee for an Interim title, this time next week there will be 3 fighters in one division who will have a claim on being the ''real'' champ.
 
stevoc said:
fecking hell this has to be a joke right?

4 times they've tried to make this fight now, they should never even think about matching Khabib and Tony up again. The whole thing is a farce now, Tony is the interim Champ and Conor the real champ neither of them are in the fight but it's still for a title. What a mess.

Holloway Khabib will be a cracking fight but i reckon they should have postponed this and tried to make Khabib vs McGregor for this summer.
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I'm fairly certain Conor is not the real champ. He was stripped of the belt for refusing to fight. Since the title was vacated, and this was supposed to be the new championship fight, the interim title doesn't matter. The interim champ was supposed to be part of this, but he's out injured.

The show must go on, blame Conor.
 
Still sceptical that this is real. Holloway vs Kahbib, honestly if he stops Kahbib then I might start to believe in god and that he is truly blessed. I hope he does because the thought of two division champ vs two division champ later this year is mouth watering. Imagine the hype. Conner vs Holloway 2.

I want it, putting all hope that Holloway pulls this off.
 
I hoped this was an April Fools. And what happened to McGregor saying he'd step in if either guy dropped out?
 
The Bloody-Nine said:
I hoped this was an April Fools. And what happened to McGregor saying he'd step in if either guy dropped out?
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Cough, cough, probably too close to the fight for “Dana” to drum up the marketing just like the Edgar one. Seems a weird excuse because you would think McGregor wouldn’t need marketing, as soon as his name would be attached it would sky rocket.

I think the reason why Dana and that wouldn’t be keen is due to the extra money they probably could get in a large build up with Connor rather than him just stepping in last minute.
 
Just seen that interview where White says Fergusons interim title is gone and he will never book a Khabib/Ferguson fight again. Thats going to be harsh on Tony if Khabib wins, basically he won't get a title shot while Khabib is the champ which could be quite a while.

Nucks said:
I'm fairly certain Conor is not the real champ. He was stripped of the belt for refusing to fight. Since the title was vacated, and this was supposed to be the new championship fight, the interim title doesn't matter. The interim champ was supposed to be part of this, but he's out injured.

The show must go on, blame Conor.
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The inconvenient problem though is that he is the real champ, he beat the actual champ to get the title. It's right he should be stripped if he's not ready to return yet but he is or was the real champ. And he will still have a legitimate claim to being the real champ after saturday.
 
If Holloway happens to win, I think that will bring Conor back relatively quickly as it would set up a megafight with Holloway (by then a two-division belt holder)
 
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